Bad atheist arguments

[Questioner]

Conceiving moral authority requires a neo cortex, and only occurs in Western civilization. It is easy to anthropomorphize moral character onto primitive tribes, even modern lefties, but that doesn't mean they understand.

Even the 9 year old children in those primitive tribes have figured out the stunted morality found in the Bible.

I include modern lefties in there for you, didn't you see where I did that?

The problem you fundies face; is that there is a group of us... that are to your right. You aren’t the edge of the map. No matter how fringe you feel you are. You and the socialist libtards are to the “Left” of me...

Be specific, what are you?

Your superior...

Unlikely.

 

[Vastator]

Even the 9 year old children in those primitive tribes have figured out the stunted morality found in the Bible.

I include modern lefties in there for you, didn't you see where I did that?

The problem you fundies face; is that there is a group of us... that are to your right. You aren’t the edge of the map. No matter how fringe you feel you are. You and the socialist libtards are to the “Left” of me...

Be specific, what are you?

Your superior...

Unlikely.

Sleep tight princess...

 

[EvMetro]

You aren’t the edge of the map. No matter how fringe you feel you are. You and the socialist libtards are to the “Left” of me...

When you think of the political line, picture a number line that goes from negative ten to positive ten, and a zero right in the middle. On the left end of the line, it says hard left, and in the middle, it says middle of the road. Finally, and most important, remember what it says at the far right side of the line: It says EvMetro.

If that were true... You’d be foisting my banner. And this discourse would never have happened...

Lol, say hello to the commies for me...

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

BS. Laws and punishment is what keep atheists from raping. Any sense of right or wrong that an atheist feels comes from the judeo Christian culture and values. Right and wrong are Christian concepts.

Right... prior to 400 bc. No one had any concept of "right, or wrong". You hold on to that fantasy. Dont let anyone take that from you...

Incorrect, hunter-gatherer tribes such as the Sentinelese, dating as far back as 80,000 BC have a culture and system of values, order, hierarchy, and so forth, such as offering burials of the dead of those they kill in warfare; it's possible that they are more "informal" than "formal" in many cases.

How they would compare to the values within more contemporary legal systems and institutions, I am unsure. (Much as I'm not aware of anything in the Bible, or in the teachings of Jesus and so forth which reduce morality to what is "taught' directly from the Bible, much as moral and immoral behaviors documented in men and women in the Bible itself proceeded the actual writing of the Bible to begin with; this is most likely just an innovation, or archaic "tradition" of man, such as found in 19th century "legalism" and whatnot - I don't believe most serious theologians believe the Bible itself is the "only" source of morality, much as the source of morality mentioned by the individuals in the Bible itself didn't come directly from the Bible; no Bible existed when Adam and Eve had the free will to defy God, for example.

As far as evolutionary biology is concerned, it is observed that "premoral sentiments" in animals may have played a role in the biological basis and evolution of morality in human cultures, such as ant colonies having systems of class, labor division, social roles, and so forth. No modern legal system denies that passions play a role in human behavior, moral, or immoral, just as those thinking men and women who built civilizations and established laws to begin with, obviously had higher moral and rational purposes and faculty than average or ordinary men and women did, or else there would be no civilizations to begin with.

Regardless, morality in human cultures is not "reducible" to biology, but higher notions such as intentions, rational thought, motivations, and self-restraint play a role in human morality and moral philosophy.

Conceiving moral authority requires a neo cortex, and only occurs in Western civilization. It is easy to anthropomorphize moral character onto primitive tribes, even modern lefties, but that doesn't mean they understand.

Even the 9 year old children in those primitive tribes have figured out the stunted morality found in the Bible.

I include modern lefties in there for you, didn't you see where I did that?

Which made you look like a moron.

 

[Vastator]

You aren’t the edge of the map. No matter how fringe you feel you are. You and the socialist libtards are to the “Left” of me...

When you think of the political line, picture a number line that goes from negative ten to positive ten, and a zero right in the middle. On the left end of the line, it says hard left, and in the middle, it says middle of the road. Finally, and most important, remember what it says at the far right side of the line: It says EvMetro.

If that were true... You’d be foisting my banner. And this discourse would never have happened...

Lol, say hello to the commies for me...

Lol..’ another fundie fool who thinks he’s a righty against the wall ....too ignorant to look left , and realize that he’s just another pawn... Sweet dreams cupcake. No

 

[EvMetro]

You aren’t the edge of the map. No matter how fringe you feel you are. You and the socialist libtards are to the “Left” of me...

When you think of the political line, picture a number line that goes from negative ten to positive ten, and a zero right in the middle. On the left end of the line, it says hard left, and in the middle, it says middle of the road. Finally, and most important, remember what it says at the far right side of the line: It says EvMetro.

If that were true... You’d be foisting my banner. And this discourse would never have happened...

Lol, say hello to the commies for me...

Lol..’ another fundie fool who thinks he’s a righty against the wall ....too ignorant to look left , and realize that he’s just another pawn... Sweet dreams cupcake. No

Alright, fun time is over. Quit trying to play righty.

 

[Vastator]

You aren’t the edge of the map. No matter how fringe you feel you are. You and the socialist libtards are to the “Left” of me...

When you think of the political line, picture a number line that goes from negative ten to positive ten, and a zero right in the middle. On the left end of the line, it says hard left, and in the middle, it says middle of the road. Finally, and most important, remember what it says at the far right side of the line: It says EvMetro.

If that were true... You’d be foisting my banner. And this discourse would never have happened...

Lol, say hello to the commies for me...

Lol..’ another fundie fool who thinks he’s a righty against the wall ....too ignorant to look left , and realize that he’s just another pawn... Sweet dreams cupcake. No

Alright, fun time is over. Quit trying to play righty.

You’re just another brand of “Lefty” to me...

 

[ding]

An infinite regression doesn’t make sense period.

Not an argument. And it makes complete sense, and is easily demonstrable, using mathematics, and staying withing the known laws of physics. I gave two such examples. So, you have made no argument here, just a claim. And the claim has been completely demolished, with examples.

Got anything else?

Actually you didn’t. Not that I saw. And the imaginary time thingee that you believe you understand, which you don’t, doesn’t mean there was no beginning. You have no under understanding of what you are talking about.

 

[ding]

~14 billion years ago the universe literally popped into existence from nothing.

 

[Questioner]

~14 billion years ago the universe literally popped into existence from nothing.

Nah..., no reason to believe it was from nothing, or the known universe, as approximated mathematically as per Bacon's method, is even existence itself to begin with.

Mathematical quantities, such as a Googol, exist, which are vaster than the entire number of particles of the universe.

If anything, the known universe is just a small microcosm within a mathematical infinity.

 

[ding]

Conceiving moral authority requires a neo cortex, and only occurs in Western civilization. It is easy to anthropomorphize moral character onto primitive tribes, even modern lefties, but that doesn't mean they understand.

Even the 9 year old children in those primitive tribes have figured out the stunted morality found in the Bible.

I include modern lefties in there for you, didn't you see where I did that?

The problem you fundies face; is that there is a group of us... that are to your right. You aren’t the edge of the map. No matter how fringe you feel you are. You and the socialist libtards are to the “Left” of me...

Be specific, what are you?

Your superior...

That is a textbook example of the dunning effect.

 

[Questioner]

Even the 9 year old children in those primitive tribes have figured out the stunted morality found in the Bible.

I include modern lefties in there for you, didn't you see where I did that?

The problem you fundies face; is that there is a group of us... that are to your right. You aren’t the edge of the map. No matter how fringe you feel you are. You and the socialist libtards are to the “Left” of me...

Be specific, what are you?

Your superior...

That is a textbook example of the dunning effect.

The dunning-Krueger effect is just a simplistic, non-scientific, made up "law" or approximation, thankfully having no actual "legal" authority, or even "scientific" authority, so to speak, often most touted and quoted by those who are themselves likely the most shining examples of it that there are to be found to begin with, not anything a remotely intellectual person would take seriously, or chalk up to more than ubiquitous bits and parts of human nature as it is, let alone be bored, lonely and desperate enough to write or encode into silly, man made "laws" or the universe, or whatnot.

It's sad or scary that some are so inept, archaic, insipid, or devoid of any intuition or self awareness that they would pray to or give any heed or credence to silly, simplistic laws and childish axioms such as this to begin with. Having no basic or interpersonal awareness whatsoever, as if any at all.

 

[ding]

~14 billion years ago the universe literally popped into existence from nothing.

Nah..., no reason to believe it was from nothing, or the known universe, as approximated mathematically as per Bacon's method, is even existence itself to begin with.

Mathematical quantities, such as a Googol, exist, which are vaster than the entire number of particles of the universe.

If anything, the known universe is just a small microcosm within a mathematical infinity.

I disagree. We have every reason to believe the universe popped into existence ~14 billion years ago and was created from nothing.

Specifically, red shift, CMB, inflation theory, 1st Law of Thermodynamics, 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, quantum mechanics and Friedmann’s solutions to Einstein’s field equations.

As for other instances of other universes which exist outside of our space and time, their creation and evolution would be identical to ours.

But in each and every instance they were created from nothing.

 

[ding]

I include modern lefties in there for you, didn't you see where I did that?

The problem you fundies face; is that there is a group of us... that are to your right. You aren’t the edge of the map. No matter how fringe you feel you are. You and the socialist libtards are to the “Left” of me...

Be specific, what are you?

Your superior...

That is a textbook example of the dunning effect.

The dunning-Krueger effect is just a simplistic, non-scientific, made up "law" or approximation, thankfully having no actual "legal" authority, or even "scientific" authority, so to speak, often most touted and quoted by those who are themselves likely the most shining examples of it that there are to be found to begin with, not anything a remotely intellectual person would take seriously, or chalk up to more than ubiquitous bits and parts of human nature as it is, let alone be bored, lonely and desperate enough to write or encode into silly, man made "laws" or the universe, or whatnot.

It's sad or scary that some are so inept, archaic, insipid, or devoid of any intuition or self awareness that they would pray to or give any heed or credence to silly, simplistic laws and childish axioms such as this to begin with. Having no basic or interpersonal awareness whatsoever, as if any at all.

Wrong. It is an observation of human behavior/tendencies.

Less intelligent people over estimate themselves and underestimate others.

More intelligent people underestimate themselves and over estimate others.

It seems that humility is a sign of intelligence.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And the imaginary time thingee that you believe you understand, which you don’t, doesn’t mean there was no beginning.

Actually, I do. You clearly have no idea what it is. And yes, it does mean that, in our timeline, there was no beginning, from our perspective. If true, if you travelled backward in time, you would never reach a boundary. Ever. Ding, your prancing and dancing will not cover up the fact that you have no idea what I am talking about.

 

[ding]

It's sad or scary that some are so inept, archaic, insipid, or devoid of any intuition or self awareness that they would pray to or give any heed or credence to silly, simplistic laws and childish axioms

Do you believe that successful behaviors naturally lead to success and failed behaviors naturally lead to failure?

Because if you do, couldn’t that be considered to be a childish axiom?

Cliches, adages, axioms, proverbs and platitudes exist for good reasons. They exist because there is an element of truth in them.

 

[ding]

And the imaginary time thingee that you believe you understand, which you don’t, doesn’t mean there was no beginning.

Actually, I do. You clearly have no idea what it is. And yes, it does mean that, in our timeline, there was no beginning, from our perspective. If true, if you travelled backward in time, you would never reach a boundary. Ever. Ding, your prancing and dancing will not cover up the fact that you have no idea what I am talking about.

But it does not mean there was no beginning, dipshit.

You have zero links for that.

 

[ding]

There’s a reason why lying fortfun won’t provide a link.

 

[ding]

your prancing and dancing will not cover up the fact that you have no idea what I am talking about.

That’s because you refused to provide a link.

No one knows what you are talking about because it’s bastardized and intentionally misleading.

 

[ding]

The universe having a beginning and being created from nothing absolutely drives militant atheists batshit crazy.