AZ Sheriff hires 400-person posse to hunt down Hispanics suspected to be illegals!

[hboats]

Here is the difference between the fed law and this unconstittional law in Arizona. They are now allowed to stop anyone they deem "suspicious"ly brown.

That is nazi like.

Not true. That is just what the Democrats and media keep telling you, but if you'd read the bill/law you'd know that just isn't true.

Rick

 

[Zona]

Here is the difference between the fed law and this unconstittional law in Arizona. They are now allowed to stop anyone they deem "suspicious"ly brown.

That is nazi like.

Can you quote a specific para in the Law or are you merely running your mouth with stale leftwing asshole media blathering points, eh.

"any police officer can stop anyone who appears to them to be reasonably suspicious of being an undocumented person"

PolitiFact | Arizona immigration law allows police to question 'anyone' who's 'reasonably suspicious' of being illegal

It is so easy to disprove you.

 

[Zona]

Here is the difference between the fed law and this unconstittional law in Arizona. They are now allowed to stop anyone they deem "suspicious"ly brown.

That is nazi like.

Not true. That is just what the Democrats and media keep telling you, but if you'd read the bill/law you'd know that just isn't true.

Rick

Really...?

PolitiFact | Arizona immigration law allows police to question 'anyone' who's 'reasonably suspicious' of being illegal

 

[Lonestar_logic]

When I was in prison here in Texas, we had to puchase our underclothes, and we were able to take them with us upon release. But that was over 35 years ago, not sure if things have changed since then or not.

FTR I was granted a full pardon by Gov. Mark White.

What was your crime?

None of your damn business!

It's cool Wicked, I don't mind answering. Unlike the liberals on this board I don't have a problem answering questions directed at me. Besides, the only thing any could do with this information is make an ass out of themselves with it.

 

[California Girl]

The difference this time though is, they are looking for brown people. I wonder how many Hispanic american citizens will be harassed by these idiots.

Depends on how many American citizens of Hispanic decent that are participating in suspicious behavior.

By suspicious behavior, you mean by being brown of course.

Not everyone is as conscious of 'color' as you appear to be Zona. Your constant use of 'race' is pathetic.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Right on Arizona and Sheriff Joe.

If the incompetent fed's can't do the job, just write a mirror law and do the job yourselves!

More than 70% of your constituents support you. Fuck the whiney liberal moonbats who don't.

You know, I was going to take a trip out to the Grand Canyon next year, but now I don't think so.

I don't want to visit a racist police state whose police force are a bunch of cowboys that abuse the hell out of people.

No thanks. Too bad, I would have liked to see the Grand Canyon. But I'm not giving Arizona one red cent.

How's that for a "Fuck you"? LOL.

Hell since you've cancelled your trip , I think I'll take my grandkids to the Grand Canyon next year. The thing is, Arizona wil be a much safer place to go since all the illegals will be deported, in jail or busy dodging police.

 

[Zona]

Depends on how many American citizens of Hispanic decent that are participating in suspicious behavior.

By suspicious behavior, you mean by being brown of course.

Not everyone is as conscious of 'color' as you appear to be Zona. Your constant use of 'race' is pathetic.

You are an american who is not brown. If you came here, do you honestly think you would be stopped? A lot of people in here would say no. They are the ones who thinks this law is constitutional. You see, it doesn't affect you.

funny huh. This new law is all about Race. If you wont admit that, you are being disingenuous.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

By suspicious behavior, you mean by being brown of course.

Not everyone is as conscious of 'color' as you appear to be Zona. Your constant use of 'race' is pathetic.

You are an american who is not brown. If you came here, do you honestly think you would be stopped? A lot of people in here would say no. They are the ones who thinks this law is constitutional. You see, it doesn't affect you.

funny huh. This new law is all about Race. If you wont admit that, you are being disingenuous.

Zona, are you going to be at any of the rallies tomorrow?

 

[AmericanFirst]

If Mexico can't or won't control the border we should annex it and install Sheriff Joe as their new El Presidente

I am with you on that....it is about time someone did the RIGHT thing and is willing to inforce the law. Hooray for ARIZONA.

 

[hboats]

Here is the difference between the fed law and this unconstittional law in Arizona. They are now allowed to stop anyone they deem "suspicious"ly brown.

That is nazi like.

Not true. That is just what the Democrats and media keep telling you, but if you'd read the bill/law you'd know that just isn't true.

Rick

Really...?

PolitiFact | Arizona immigration law allows police to question 'anyone' who's 'reasonably suspicious' of being illegal

Yes, really. Do you even read the links you post? The law is quite clear, and the person who wrote that "article" for PolitiFact is injecting his own understanding (which is incorrect) into his writing.

The bill clearly says

For any lawful contact made by a law enforcement official or a law enforcement agency of this state or a law enforcement official or a law enforcement agency of a county, city, town or other political subdivision of this state where reasonable suspicion exists that the person is an alien who is unlawfully present in the United States, a reasonable attempt shall be made, when practicable, to determine the immigration status of the person, except if the determination may hinder or obstruct an investigation.

Which means that when an officer makes any "lawful contact" with someone he may ask for proof of citizenship. That's what the law says, it's really not that difficult to understand.

I'm telling you the FACTS that the law spells out. Your link deals with OPINIONS which are not FACTS, and neither are these opinions part of the law.

I know you don't like to deal with facts, but they are right there, and really aren't to difficult to understand.

Rick

 

[Navy1960]

This little note is for the OP: Do you know how long the Maricopa County Sheriffs Office has been using Posse's ? Well let me put it this way, I live in a community for the most part of nothing but old farts like me, a bunch of old retired Vets , good friends etc. When I first retired, my first ever experience was being pulled over by a Posse Member because they noticed the NAS *** base sticker on my car and wanted to say hello. That person was about 70 to my recollection. These Posse member do all sorts of things in Maricopa County, they help at Parades , they patrol neighborhoods, and yes they even help those in need and hand out toys during the holidays. So it might help rather than getting your information from some 4th hand article to take a moment and see what the Sheriffs Posse is all about because they were here even before Sheriff Joe was ever elected Sheriff and have been a long standing tradition here. This is just one more exaample of a news papaer who wants to keep the status quo and without knowing it endorse slavery of illegal immigrants by trying to deamonize the Sheriffs Posse who are citizens that do nothing more that try to serve the community. The real sad part of all this. those illegal immigrants are often times, mistreated by the very people who they have to pay to get here, and have to live in the shadows and in poverty. THATS THE REAL STORY HERE not some made up article by a newspaper endorsing our new version of Mexican slavery.

 

[Samson]

THATS THE REAL STORY HERE not some made up article by a newspaper endorsing our new version of Mexican slavery.

You're not helping: The Spin is all that counts

How many urban New Yorkers know what a Posse really does?

If I write that they Lynch Mexicans, then they'll believe me.

 

[Navy1960]

THATS THE REAL STORY HERE not some made up article by a newspaper endorsing our new version of Mexican slavery.

You're not helping: The Spin is all that counts

How many urban New Yorkers know what a Posse really does?

If I write that they Lynch Mexicans, then they'll believe me.

I know the sensation sells more newspapers I suppose, I guess the image of some 65 year old grandmother in a Maricopa Country Sheriffs uniform on patrol at the local retirement community is not what some people thought about when they thought of the word Posse, rather they more had the image of some Clint Eastwood movie with a bunch of men on horses riding through the streets beating on the poor masses. It's just a shame at least IMO that the real story here is not being told in terms of this endorsed slavery by letting this illegal immigration continue like this.

 

[Samson]

THATS THE REAL STORY HERE not some made up article by a newspaper endorsing our new version of Mexican slavery.

You're not helping: The Spin is all that counts

How many urban New Yorkers know what a Posse really does?

If I write that they Lynch Mexicans, then they'll believe me.

I know the sensation sells more newspapers I suppose, I guess the image of some 65 year old grandmother in a Maricopa Country Sheriffs uniform on patrol at the local retirement community is not what some people thought about when they thought of the word Posse, rather they more had the image of some Clint Eastwood movie with a bunch of men on horses riding through the streets beating on the poor masses. It's just a shame at least IMO that the real story here is not being told in terms of this endorsed slavery by letting this illegal immigration continue like this.

I'm just curious: If "Endorsed Slavery" of Mexicans is so bad, then A. Why are they here? B. Why do I see all sorts of "American-Mexicans" endorsing it?

 

[Zona]

Not everyone is as conscious of 'color' as you appear to be Zona. Your constant use of 'race' is pathetic.

You are an american who is not brown. If you came here, do you honestly think you would be stopped? A lot of people in here would say no. They are the ones who thinks this law is constitutional. You see, it doesn't affect you.

funny huh. This new law is all about Race. If you wont admit that, you are being disingenuous.

Zona, are you going to be at any of the rallies tomorrow?

The anti rally's? I am going to one on Saturday and have already been to one here down town.

 

[Samson]

You are an american who is not brown. If you came here, do you honestly think you would be stopped? A lot of people in here would say no. They are the ones who thinks this law is constitutional. You see, it doesn't affect you.

funny huh. This new law is all about Race. If you wont admit that, you are being disingenuous.

Zona, are you going to be at any of the rallies tomorrow?

The anti rally's? I am going to one on Saturday and have already been to one here down town.

Were there lots of Senioritas Calientes?

 

[Zona]

Not true. That is just what the Democrats and media keep telling you, but if you'd read the bill/law you'd know that just isn't true.

Rick

Really...?

PolitiFact | Arizona immigration law allows police to question 'anyone' who's 'reasonably suspicious' of being illegal

Yes, really. Do you even read the links you post? The law is quite clear, and the person who wrote that "article" for PolitiFact is injecting his own understanding (which is incorrect) into his writing.

The bill clearly says

For any lawful contact made by a law enforcement official or a law enforcement agency of this state or a law enforcement official or a law enforcement agency of a county, city, town or other political subdivision of this state where reasonable suspicion exists that the person is an alien who is unlawfully present in the United States, a reasonable attempt shall be made, when practicable, to determine the immigration status of the person, except if the determination may hinder or obstruct an investigation.

Which means that when an officer makes any "lawful contact" with someone he may ask for proof of citizenship. That's what the law says, it's really not that difficult to understand.

I'm telling you the FACTS that the law spells out. Your link deals with OPINIONS which are not FACTS, and neither are these opinions part of the law.

I know you don't like to deal with facts, but they are right there, and really aren't to difficult to understand.

Rick

A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, WITHOUT A WARRANT, MAY ARREST A PERSON
IF THE OFFICER HAS PROBABLE CAUSE TO BELIEVE THAT THE PERSON HAS COMMITTED
ANY PUBLIC OFFENSE THAT MAKES THE PERSON REMOVABLE FROM THE UNITED STATES.
http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070s.pdf

This means, if a person is suspiciously brown, they can do what they want.

Still dont get it?

 

[Zona]

Zona, are you going to be at any of the rallies tomorrow?

The anti rally's? I am going to one on Saturday and have already been to one here down town.

Were there lots of Senioritas Calientes?

That is not the purspose of the rally's sir. The reason I am going is to show my support for them. (Oh and oh my god, yes there are some babes there! )

 

[Navy1960]

You're not helping: The Spin is all that counts

How many urban New Yorkers know what a Posse really does?

If I write that they Lynch Mexicans, then they'll believe me.

I know the sensation sells more newspapers I suppose, I guess the image of some 65 year old grandmother in a Maricopa Country Sheriffs uniform on patrol at the local retirement community is not what some people thought about when they thought of the word Posse, rather they more had the image of some Clint Eastwood movie with a bunch of men on horses riding through the streets beating on the poor masses. It's just a shame at least IMO that the real story here is not being told in terms of this endorsed slavery by letting this illegal immigration continue like this.

I'm just curious: If "Endorsed Slavery" of Mexicans is so bad, then A. Why are they here? B. Why do I see all sorts of "American-Mexicans" endorsing it?

I can only assume they are here because they are willing to endure anything to make any wage that is better from the place where they came not knowing that 99.9% of Americans would never put up with the conditions or wages these individuals have to put up with. It's in place because it means cheap labor for employers being blunt, and political capitol for others that would be my guess on your question B. I heard something last night from Paul Rodriguez who annouced he cancelled his show at the Indian Casino here, to boycott Arizona which I thought rather amusing considering that if you go into the Indian Nation there you may get a different opnion on if they think they are Arizona or not. All that aside, he made an interesting comment on a guest worker card that was used in the 40's where seasonal workers wer issued a card to come here to wrok then went home and sort of implied that for the most part that is a a step in the right direction. One of the things that many do not realize that very few of the dollars earned here by illegal immigrants actually goes back into the Arizona economy much of it is sent home to support loved ones. I have long believed that illegal immigration has become an institution because for years the Govt. has looked the other way and now because that institution has come under fire there is anger, when the real issue as I stated earlier is the instituion itself that allows this to continue.

 

[hboats]

Really...?

PolitiFact | Arizona immigration law allows police to question 'anyone' who's 'reasonably suspicious' of being illegal

Yes, really. Do you even read the links you post? The law is quite clear, and the person who wrote that "article" for PolitiFact is injecting his own understanding (which is incorrect) into his writing.

The bill clearly says

For any lawful contact made by a law enforcement official or a law enforcement agency of this state or a law enforcement official or a law enforcement agency of a county, city, town or other political subdivision of this state where reasonable suspicion exists that the person is an alien who is unlawfully present in the United States, a reasonable attempt shall be made, when practicable, to determine the immigration status of the person, except if the determination may hinder or obstruct an investigation.

Which means that when an officer makes any "lawful contact" with someone he may ask for proof of citizenship. That's what the law says, it's really not that difficult to understand.

I'm telling you the FACTS that the law spells out. Your link deals with OPINIONS which are not FACTS, and neither are these opinions part of the law.

I know you don't like to deal with facts, but they are right there, and really aren't to difficult to understand.

Rick

A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, WITHOUT A WARRANT, MAY ARREST A PERSON
IF THE OFFICER HAS PROBABLE CAUSE TO BELIEVE THAT THE PERSON HAS COMMITTED
ANY PUBLIC OFFENSE THAT MAKES THE PERSON REMOVABLE FROM THE UNITED STATES.
http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070s.pdf

This means, if a person is suspiciously brown, they can do what they want.

Still dont get it?

You might try putting that in the context of the bill. The bill clearly says that the law enforcement officer has to come into contact with that person in a lawful way. There is no "that person looks Mexican, let's stop them and ask them for papers" scenario allowed by this bill.

Still don't get it?

Rick