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I pay more than 12K a year in health insurance for my family. And I am lucky enough to work for a company that has a health insurance program.
And that doesn't cover all of my bills- I still have copays- and I still have to pay the percentages.
I have friends who live in Canada- and I don't know a single Canadian who doesn't prefer their system to the American system.
What 'free thing' are the voices in your head talking about?
It's just a common way to present government provided health care. It's referenced that way in several threads here in the health care forum, not in my head. But thanks for the insult!
In any case, what really changes is who is in control, government or individuals.
What really changes is that people no longer go bankrupt from medical bills when they get sick.
I suppose that depends on who's running the government at any given time.
Clearly not- since the same thing has happened under the last three Presidents.
Are you still talking about Canada? Because here we elect people like Trump. Not sure why anyone would want him in charge of our healthcare.
I pay more than 12K a year in health insurance for my family. And I am lucky enough to work for a company that has a health insurance program.
And that doesn't cover all of my bills- I still have copays- and I still have to pay the percentages.
I have friends who live in Canada- and I don't know a single Canadian who doesn't prefer their system to the American system.
Funny.
I have two relatives from Canada who worked for the Canadian healthcare system as nurses and they both say it sucks
In fact we had a family friend from Canada who stayed with us while he got treatment for cancer at MDM Anderson the best cancer hospital in the world.
I pay more than 12K a year in health insurance for my family. And I am lucky enough to work for a company that has a health insurance program.
And that doesn't cover all of my bills- I still have copays- and I still have to pay the percentages.
I have friends who live in Canada- and I don't know a single Canadian who doesn't prefer their system to the American system.
Funny.
I have two relatives from Canada who worked for the Canadian healthcare system as nurses and they both say it sucks
In fact we had a family friend from Canada who stayed with us while he got treatment for cancer at MDM Anderson the best cancer hospital in the world.
Man your family friend must have a boat load of money to pay for that treatment.
I have literally never met any Canadian who prefers the American health insurance system to the Canadian plan.
Well lets talk about the ACA.So how did Obama work out? He pushed the "Affordable Health Care" act down our throats with no intention of making it affordable. He instead used it as cover for a massive expansion of Medicaid and Medicare. President Trump is starting where Obama should have started, bringing drug costs down.It's just a common way to present government provided health care. It's referenced that way in several threads here in the health care forum, not in my head. But thanks for the insult!
In any case, what really changes is who is in control, government or individuals.
What really changes is that people no longer go bankrupt from medical bills when they get sick.
I suppose that depends on who's running the government at any given time.
Clearly not- since the same thing has happened under the last three Presidents.
Are you still talking about Canada? Because here we elect people like Trump. Not sure why anyone would want him in charge of our healthcare.
I pay more than 12K a year in health insurance for my family. And I am lucky enough to work for a company that has a health insurance program.
And that doesn't cover all of my bills- I still have copays- and I still have to pay the percentages.
I have friends who live in Canada- and I don't know a single Canadian who doesn't prefer their system to the American system.
Funny.
I have two relatives from Canada who worked for the Canadian healthcare system as nurses and they both say it sucks
In fact we had a family friend from Canada who stayed with us while he got treatment for cancer at MDM Anderson the best cancer hospital in the world.
Man your family friend must have a boat load of money to pay for that treatment.
I have literally never met any Canadian who prefers the American health insurance system to the Canadian plan.
Maybe you should talk to people in Canada who need life saving treatment as this gentleman did.
Oh....MD Anderson will work with you on cost if you dont have insurance.
You are either too stupid to discuss this with or trolling.
I pay more than 12K a year in health insurance for my family. And I am lucky enough to work for a company that has a health insurance program.
And that doesn't cover all of my bills- I still have copays- and I still have to pay the percentages.
I have friends who live in Canada- and I don't know a single Canadian who doesn't prefer their system to the American system.
Funny.
I have two relatives from Canada who worked for the Canadian healthcare system as nurses and they both say it sucks
In fact we had a family friend from Canada who stayed with us while he got treatment for cancer at MDM Anderson the best cancer hospital in the world.
Man your family friend must have a boat load of money to pay for that treatment.
I have literally never met any Canadian who prefers the American health insurance system to the Canadian plan.
Maybe you should talk to people in Canada who need life saving treatment as this gentleman did.
Oh....MD Anderson will work with you on cost if you dont have insurance.
I have friends in Canada who have gotten their life saving treatment in Canada. I am not doubting your friends story- I just have not ever met any Canadian who fit that category- or that even knew of anyone who did.
When I am at a dinner party in Canada this topic comes up often- Canadians I have met are just overwhelmingly appalled about how America just abandons those without insurance.
The Median Household Income in Canada is $70,000.... that means half the households make more than $70k and half make less than the $70k.
The median total income of Canadian households reached $70,336 in 2015, a 10.8 per cent increase from $63,457 in 2005. The Northwest Territories had the highest median income in Canada at $117,688, followed by Nunavut at $97,441 and Alberta at $93,835.Sep 13, 2017
In the USA the median household income is $56,500.
Median household income rose to $56,516 in 2015, up 5.2% from a year earlier, according to data released by the U.S. Census Bureau Tuesday.Sep 13, 2016
LOOKS LIKE Canada has the better deal....
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How Much Does Health Insurance Cost Without A Subsidy? - eHealth Insurance Resource Center
Average premiums and deductibles nationwide unsubsidized shoppers: Premiums for individual coverage averaged $321 per month while premiums for family plans averaged $833 per month. The average annual deductible for individual plans was $4,358 and the average deductible for family plans was $7,983.Oct 10, 2016
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How much is spent on healthcare in the United States each year?
According to CMS (here) our National Healthcare Expenditure (NHE) is projected to hit $3.207 trillion this year. The U.S. Population is currently hovering at around 320 million, so 2015 looks to be the first year healthcare spending will reach $10,000 per person.Jan 4, 2015
U.S. Healthcare Spending On Track To Hit $10,000 Per Person This Year
The Median Household Income in Canada is $70,000.... that means half the households make more than $70k and half make less than the $70k.
The median total income of Canadian households reached $70,336 in 2015, a 10.8 per cent increase from $63,457 in 2005. The Northwest Territories had the highest median income in Canada at $117,688, followed by Nunavut at $97,441 and Alberta at $93,835.Sep 13, 2017
In the USA the median household income is $56,500.
Median household income rose to $56,516 in 2015, up 5.2% from a year earlier, according to data released by the U.S. Census Bureau Tuesday.Sep 13, 2016
LOOKS LIKE Canada has the better deal....
------------------------------------------------
How Much Does Health Insurance Cost Without A Subsidy? - eHealth Insurance Resource Center
Average premiums and deductibles nationwide unsubsidized shoppers: Premiums for individual coverage averaged $321 per month while premiums for family plans averaged $833 per month. The average annual deductible for individual plans was $4,358 and the average deductible for family plans was $7,983.Oct 10, 2016
--------------------------------------------------------
How much is spent on healthcare in the United States each year?
According to CMS (here) our National Healthcare Expenditure (NHE) is projected to hit $3.207 trillion this year. The U.S. Population is currently hovering at around 320 million, so 2015 looks to be the first year healthcare spending will reach $10,000 per person.Jan 4, 2015
U.S. Healthcare Spending On Track To Hit $10,000 Per Person This Year
Does that include their tax burden?
Didnt think so.
The Median Household Income in Canada is $70,000.... that means half the households make more than $70k and half make less than the $70k.
The median total income of Canadian households reached $70,336 in 2015, a 10.8 per cent increase from $63,457 in 2005. The Northwest Territories had the highest median income in Canada at $117,688, followed by Nunavut at $97,441 and Alberta at $93,835.Sep 13, 2017
In the USA the median household income is $56,500.
Median household income rose to $56,516 in 2015, up 5.2% from a year earlier, according to data released by the U.S. Census Bureau Tuesday.Sep 13, 2016
LOOKS LIKE Canada has the better deal....
------------------------------------------------
How Much Does Health Insurance Cost Without A Subsidy? - eHealth Insurance Resource Center
Average premiums and deductibles nationwide unsubsidized shoppers: Premiums for individual coverage averaged $321 per month while premiums for family plans averaged $833 per month. The average annual deductible for individual plans was $4,358 and the average deductible for family plans was $7,983.Oct 10, 2016
--------------------------------------------------------
How much is spent on healthcare in the United States each year?
According to CMS (here) our National Healthcare Expenditure (NHE) is projected to hit $3.207 trillion this year. The U.S. Population is currently hovering at around 320 million, so 2015 looks to be the first year healthcare spending will reach $10,000 per person.Jan 4, 2015
U.S. Healthcare Spending On Track To Hit $10,000 Per Person This Year
Does that include their tax burden?
Didnt think so.
it includes what Canadian tax payers pay for their healthcare, which was on average $12k a year per family unit according to the Title of this thread. I am presuming that is the total cost of what these families spend on it, and the total avg cost their government spends on it, per household....but that I am not certain....
And the extra links show what we in the USA spend on Health Care, per person, which on average is $10k per person, a year....
How much does your wife's employer pay, for the employer portion of it?The Median Household Income in Canada is $70,000.... that means half the households make more than $70k and half make less than the $70k.
The median total income of Canadian households reached $70,336 in 2015, a 10.8 per cent increase from $63,457 in 2005. The Northwest Territories had the highest median income in Canada at $117,688, followed by Nunavut at $97,441 and Alberta at $93,835.Sep 13, 2017
In the USA the median household income is $56,500.
Median household income rose to $56,516 in 2015, up 5.2% from a year earlier, according to data released by the U.S. Census Bureau Tuesday.Sep 13, 2016
LOOKS LIKE Canada has the better deal....
------------------------------------------------
How Much Does Health Insurance Cost Without A Subsidy? - eHealth Insurance Resource Center
Average premiums and deductibles nationwide unsubsidized shoppers: Premiums for individual coverage averaged $321 per month while premiums for family plans averaged $833 per month. The average annual deductible for individual plans was $4,358 and the average deductible for family plans was $7,983.Oct 10, 2016
--------------------------------------------------------
How much is spent on healthcare in the United States each year?
According to CMS (here) our National Healthcare Expenditure (NHE) is projected to hit $3.207 trillion this year. The U.S. Population is currently hovering at around 320 million, so 2015 looks to be the first year healthcare spending will reach $10,000 per person.Jan 4, 2015
U.S. Healthcare Spending On Track To Hit $10,000 Per Person This Year
Does that include their tax burden?
Didnt think so.
it includes what Canadian tax payers pay for their healthcare, which was on average $12k a year per family unit according to the Title of this thread. I am presuming that is the total cost of what these families spend on it, and the total avg cost their government spends on it, per household....but that I am not certain....
And the extra links show what we in the USA spend on Health Care, per person, which on average is $10k per person, a year....
We pay around $7200 a year through Blue Cross and it's top notch healthcare.
I've had cancer surgery,hip replacement,back surgery and some major oral surgery over the last four years and it didnt cost a dime out of pocket other than insurance payments.
Also, that means some other couple or 20 couples that are paying the $7200 a year that have no medical bills and in good health, are paying for YOUR medical care...The Median Household Income in Canada is $70,000.... that means half the households make more than $70k and half make less than the $70k.
The median total income of Canadian households reached $70,336 in 2015, a 10.8 per cent increase from $63,457 in 2005. The Northwest Territories had the highest median income in Canada at $117,688, followed by Nunavut at $97,441 and Alberta at $93,835.Sep 13, 2017
In the USA the median household income is $56,500.
Median household income rose to $56,516 in 2015, up 5.2% from a year earlier, according to data released by the U.S. Census Bureau Tuesday.Sep 13, 2016
LOOKS LIKE Canada has the better deal....
------------------------------------------------
How Much Does Health Insurance Cost Without A Subsidy? - eHealth Insurance Resource Center
Average premiums and deductibles nationwide unsubsidized shoppers: Premiums for individual coverage averaged $321 per month while premiums for family plans averaged $833 per month. The average annual deductible for individual plans was $4,358 and the average deductible for family plans was $7,983.Oct 10, 2016
--------------------------------------------------------
How much is spent on healthcare in the United States each year?
According to CMS (here) our National Healthcare Expenditure (NHE) is projected to hit $3.207 trillion this year. The U.S. Population is currently hovering at around 320 million, so 2015 looks to be the first year healthcare spending will reach $10,000 per person.Jan 4, 2015
U.S. Healthcare Spending On Track To Hit $10,000 Per Person This Year
Does that include their tax burden?
Didnt think so.
it includes what Canadian tax payers pay for their healthcare, which was on average $12k a year per family unit according to the Title of this thread. I am presuming that is the total cost of what these families spend on it, and the total avg cost their government spends on it, per household....but that I am not certain....
And the extra links show what we in the USA spend on Health Care, per person, which on average is $10k per person, a year....
We pay around $7200 a year through Blue Cross and it's top notch healthcare.
I've had cancer surgery,hip replacement,back surgery and some major oral surgery over the last four years and it didnt cost a dime out of pocket other than insurance payments.
How much does your wife's employer pay, for the employer portion of it?The Median Household Income in Canada is $70,000.... that means half the households make more than $70k and half make less than the $70k.
The median total income of Canadian households reached $70,336 in 2015, a 10.8 per cent increase from $63,457 in 2005. The Northwest Territories had the highest median income in Canada at $117,688, followed by Nunavut at $97,441 and Alberta at $93,835.Sep 13, 2017
In the USA the median household income is $56,500.
Median household income rose to $56,516 in 2015, up 5.2% from a year earlier, according to data released by the U.S. Census Bureau Tuesday.Sep 13, 2016
LOOKS LIKE Canada has the better deal....
------------------------------------------------
How Much Does Health Insurance Cost Without A Subsidy? - eHealth Insurance Resource Center
Average premiums and deductibles nationwide unsubsidized shoppers: Premiums for individual coverage averaged $321 per month while premiums for family plans averaged $833 per month. The average annual deductible for individual plans was $4,358 and the average deductible for family plans was $7,983.Oct 10, 2016
--------------------------------------------------------
How much is spent on healthcare in the United States each year?
According to CMS (here) our National Healthcare Expenditure (NHE) is projected to hit $3.207 trillion this year. The U.S. Population is currently hovering at around 320 million, so 2015 looks to be the first year healthcare spending will reach $10,000 per person.Jan 4, 2015
U.S. Healthcare Spending On Track To Hit $10,000 Per Person This Year
Does that include their tax burden?
Didnt think so.
it includes what Canadian tax payers pay for their healthcare, which was on average $12k a year per family unit according to the Title of this thread. I am presuming that is the total cost of what these families spend on it, and the total avg cost their government spends on it, per household....but that I am not certain....
And the extra links show what we in the USA spend on Health Care, per person, which on average is $10k per person, a year....
We pay around $7200 a year through Blue Cross and it's top notch healthcare.
I've had cancer surgery,hip replacement,back surgery and some major oral surgery over the last four years and it didnt cost a dime out of pocket other than insurance payments.
Also, that means some other couple or 20 couples that are paying the $7200 a year that have no medical bills and in good health, are paying for YOUR medical care...The Median Household Income in Canada is $70,000.... that means half the households make more than $70k and half make less than the $70k.
The median total income of Canadian households reached $70,336 in 2015, a 10.8 per cent increase from $63,457 in 2005. The Northwest Territories had the highest median income in Canada at $117,688, followed by Nunavut at $97,441 and Alberta at $93,835.Sep 13, 2017
In the USA the median household income is $56,500.
Median household income rose to $56,516 in 2015, up 5.2% from a year earlier, according to data released by the U.S. Census Bureau Tuesday.Sep 13, 2016
LOOKS LIKE Canada has the better deal....
------------------------------------------------
How Much Does Health Insurance Cost Without A Subsidy? - eHealth Insurance Resource Center
Average premiums and deductibles nationwide unsubsidized shoppers: Premiums for individual coverage averaged $321 per month while premiums for family plans averaged $833 per month. The average annual deductible for individual plans was $4,358 and the average deductible for family plans was $7,983.Oct 10, 2016
--------------------------------------------------------
How much is spent on healthcare in the United States each year?
According to CMS (here) our National Healthcare Expenditure (NHE) is projected to hit $3.207 trillion this year. The U.S. Population is currently hovering at around 320 million, so 2015 looks to be the first year healthcare spending will reach $10,000 per person.Jan 4, 2015
U.S. Healthcare Spending On Track To Hit $10,000 Per Person This Year
Does that include their tax burden?
Didnt think so.
it includes what Canadian tax payers pay for their healthcare, which was on average $12k a year per family unit according to the Title of this thread. I am presuming that is the total cost of what these families spend on it, and the total avg cost their government spends on it, per household....but that I am not certain....
And the extra links show what we in the USA spend on Health Care, per person, which on average is $10k per person, a year....
We pay around $7200 a year through Blue Cross and it's top notch healthcare.
I've had cancer surgery,hip replacement,back surgery and some major oral surgery over the last four years and it didnt cost a dime out of pocket other than insurance payments.
Also, that means some other couple or 20 couples that are paying the $7200 a year that have no medical bills and in good health, are paying for YOUR medical care...The Median Household Income in Canada is $70,000.... that means half the households make more than $70k and half make less than the $70k.
The median total income of Canadian households reached $70,336 in 2015, a 10.8 per cent increase from $63,457 in 2005. The Northwest Territories had the highest median income in Canada at $117,688, followed by Nunavut at $97,441 and Alberta at $93,835.Sep 13, 2017
In the USA the median household income is $56,500.
Median household income rose to $56,516 in 2015, up 5.2% from a year earlier, according to data released by the U.S. Census Bureau Tuesday.Sep 13, 2016
LOOKS LIKE Canada has the better deal....
------------------------------------------------
How Much Does Health Insurance Cost Without A Subsidy? - eHealth Insurance Resource Center
Average premiums and deductibles nationwide unsubsidized shoppers: Premiums for individual coverage averaged $321 per month while premiums for family plans averaged $833 per month. The average annual deductible for individual plans was $4,358 and the average deductible for family plans was $7,983.Oct 10, 2016
--------------------------------------------------------
How much is spent on healthcare in the United States each year?
According to CMS (here) our National Healthcare Expenditure (NHE) is projected to hit $3.207 trillion this year. The U.S. Population is currently hovering at around 320 million, so 2015 looks to be the first year healthcare spending will reach $10,000 per person.Jan 4, 2015
U.S. Healthcare Spending On Track To Hit $10,000 Per Person This Year
Does that include their tax burden?
Didnt think so.
it includes what Canadian tax payers pay for their healthcare, which was on average $12k a year per family unit according to the Title of this thread. I am presuming that is the total cost of what these families spend on it, and the total avg cost their government spends on it, per household....but that I am not certain....
And the extra links show what we in the USA spend on Health Care, per person, which on average is $10k per person, a year....
We pay around $7200 a year through Blue Cross and it's top notch healthcare.
I've had cancer surgery,hip replacement,back surgery and some major oral surgery over the last four years and it didnt cost a dime out of pocket other than insurance payments.
The figures you quote would be welcome by many Americans.So many people point to Canada as a role model for socialist healthcare. Some in Canada brag that it's "free" healthcare for all. Leftists love to throw the word "free" around, as if anything is actually free. No, it's expensive to fund healthcare. You don't get a bill when you go to the doctor but the average family pays over $12,000 a year. Each individual pays over $4,000, over $330 a month. That is not cheap. While it's free to some, most workers pay a hefty sum. Taxes in Canada are ridiculously high, with a high percent going just for their healthcare system. How long can they survive? As it is, my Canadian friends tell me that there are waiting lists for most healthcare tests and procedures. One woman I know was on a waiting list for an MRI and they told her the wait would be 12 - 15 months.
Not much better in Britain, where ER are overcrowded and many patients are on cots in hallways. Some patients are even treated right in the ER waiting room with no privacy.
Then you look at our VA, the shining example of government-run healthcare. It's a mess. People die waiting for care. Long waiting lists for appointments. And the left wants that for the entire country. Typical leftist thinking. They don't think it's fair that some don't have adequate care while most do. Instead of finding ways to improve things for some, they demand a system that brings down quality for everyone (but the politicians and their friends). They want equal outcomes for EVERYTHING, even if that means equal misery. Why does that make some feel better to think that they can drag others down and make them suffer?
Millions of Americans loved their healthcare plans and their doctors. Obama promised to leave us alone. He lied his ass off, as did all the Dems. If they wanted to help those who couldn't or wouldn't help themselves, there was no need to hurt us all both financially and by forcing us to give up doctors and plans we were happy with.
Costs skyrocketed after Obamacare passed. Can barely afford EpiPen now. That is always what happens when government promises to foot the bill. Of course, Big Pharma helped write Obamacare.
Average Canadian family paying more than $12K to fund public health care: study
You don't understand anything about it, do you?I pay more than 12K a year in health insurance for my family. And I am lucky enough to work for a company that has a health insurance program.
Yes. The "free" thing is just marketing. We'll still pay. It just a question of who's running the show. First, they convinced us that it had to be our employers, and now they're trying to convince us it must be the government.
So many people point to Canada as a role model for socialist healthcare. Some in Canada brag that it's "free" healthcare for all. Leftists love to throw the word "free" around, as if anything is actually free. No, it's expensive to fund healthcare. You don't get a bill when you go to the doctor but the average family pays over $12,000 a year. Each individual pays over $4,000, over $330 a month. That is not cheap. While it's free to some, most workers pay a hefty sum. Taxes in Canada are ridiculously high, with a high percent going just for their healthcare system. How long can they survive? As it is, my Canadian friends tell me that there are waiting lists for most healthcare tests and procedures. One woman I know was on a waiting list for an MRI and they told her the wait would be 12 - 15 months.
Not much better in Britain, where ER are overcrowded and many patients are on cots in hallways. Some patients are even treated right in the ER waiting room with no privacy.
Then you look at our VA, the shining example of government-run healthcare. It's a mess. People die waiting for care. Long waiting lists for appointments. And the left wants that for the entire country. Typical leftist thinking. They don't think it's fair that some don't have adequate care while most do. Instead of finding ways to improve things for some, they demand a system that brings down quality for everyone (but the politicians and their friends). They want equal outcomes for EVERYTHING, even if that means equal misery. Why does that make some feel better to think that they can drag others down and make them suffer?
Millions of Americans loved their healthcare plans and their doctors. Obama promised to leave us alone. He lied his ass off, as did all the Dems. If they wanted to help those who couldn't or wouldn't help themselves, there was no need to hurt us all both financially and by forcing us to give up doctors and plans we were happy with.
Costs skyrocketed after Obamacare passed. Can barely afford EpiPen now. That is always what happens when government promises to foot the bill. Of course, Big Pharma helped write Obamacare.
Average Canadian family paying more than $12K to fund public health care: study
Dear Clementine
How much do Canadians vs. Americans pay for prisons, incarceration
and other legal/court costs involved in crimes including corporate and govt corruption?
If we petitioned Congress from both left and right,
from Ted Cruz to Sheila Jackson Lee, to get taxpayers
paid back for all the crime and corruption we pay for because of
the "wrongdoings of others", how much credit would we own
in the Federal Reserve that we could demand that Govt charge
back to Wrongdoers to pay instead of billing to innocent taxpayers.
Where's our due process of law, where's proof that we did any
wrongdoing to lose our income, our liberty, our ability to pay for
education, health care and other things for ourselves and our families?
Why is the wrong person being punished because the govt failed
to protect us from crime and corruption by wrongdoers costing us this much?
Where is the lawsuit or petition?
Where can we sign up and demand class action level reimbursement?
