Average Canadian Family Paying More Than 12K Yearly to Fund Public Healthcare

[Penelope]

So many people point to Canada as a role model for socialist healthcare. Some in Canada brag that it's "free" healthcare for all. Leftists love to throw the word "free" around, as if anything is actually free. No, it's expensive to fund healthcare. You don't get a bill when you go to the doctor but the average family pays over $12,000 a year. Each individual pays over $4,000, over $330 a month. That is not cheap. While it's free to some, most workers pay a hefty sum. Taxes in Canada are ridiculously high, with a high percent going just for their healthcare system. How long can they survive? As it is, my Canadian friends tell me that there are waiting lists for most healthcare tests and procedures. One woman I know was on a waiting list for an MRI and they told her the wait would be 12 - 15 months.

Not much better in Britain, where ER are overcrowded and many patients are on cots in hallways. Some patients are even treated right in the ER waiting room with no privacy.

Then you look at our VA, the shining example of government-run healthcare. It's a mess. People die waiting for care. Long waiting lists for appointments. And the left wants that for the entire country. Typical leftist thinking. They don't think it's fair that some don't have adequate care while most do. Instead of finding ways to improve things for some, they demand a system that brings down quality for everyone (but the politicians and their friends). They want equal outcomes for EVERYTHING, even if that means equal misery. Why does that make some feel better to think that they can drag others down and make them suffer?

Millions of Americans loved their healthcare plans and their doctors. Obama promised to leave us alone. He lied his ass off, as did all the Dems. If they wanted to help those who couldn't or wouldn't help themselves, there was no need to hurt us all both financially and by forcing us to give up doctors and plans we were happy with.

Costs skyrocketed after Obamacare passed. Can barely afford EpiPen now. That is always what happens when government promises to foot the bill. Of course, Big Pharma helped write Obamacare.


Average Canadian family paying more than $12K to fund public health care: study

But it's "free healthcare"

There is nothing free in life except for those who don't want to insure their bodies.

 

[Penelope]

So many people point to Canada as a role model for socialist healthcare. Some in Canada brag that it's "free" healthcare for all. Leftists love to throw the word "free" around, as if anything is actually free. No, it's expensive to fund healthcare. You don't get a bill when you go to the doctor but the average family pays over $12,000 a year. Each individual pays over $4,000, over $330 a month. That is not cheap. While it's free to some, most workers pay a hefty sum. Taxes in Canada are ridiculously high, with a high percent going just for their healthcare system. How long can they survive? As it is, my Canadian friends tell me that there are waiting lists for most healthcare tests and procedures. One woman I know was on a waiting list for an MRI and they told her the wait would be 12 - 15 months.

Not much better in Britain, where ER are overcrowded and many patients are on cots in hallways. Some patients are even treated right in the ER waiting room with no privacy.

Then you look at our VA, the shining example of government-run healthcare. It's a mess. People die waiting for care. Long waiting lists for appointments. And the left wants that for the entire country. Typical leftist thinking. They don't think it's fair that some don't have adequate care while most do. Instead of finding ways to improve things for some, they demand a system that brings down quality for everyone (but the politicians and their friends). They want equal outcomes for EVERYTHING, even if that means equal misery. Why does that make some feel better to think that they can drag others down and make them suffer?

Millions of Americans loved their healthcare plans and their doctors. Obama promised to leave us alone. He lied his ass off, as did all the Dems. If they wanted to help those who couldn't or wouldn't help themselves, there was no need to hurt us all both financially and by forcing us to give up doctors and plans we were happy with.

Costs skyrocketed after Obamacare passed. Can barely afford EpiPen now. That is always what happens when government promises to foot the bill. Of course, Big Pharma helped write Obamacare.


Average Canadian family paying more than $12K to fund public health care: study

You really think I'm going to believe a report by a conservative and libertarian non profit. Also if one needed a MRI and to wait for 12-15 months, she didn't need it then.

My SIL said it took her Mom to er and she had to wait several hours laying on a cot in the hallway, along with all the other people, before she could get admitted. In rural areas they have to drive miles to get adequate care.

12 k does not sound bad. I understand you can't stand the working poor to get adequate care, but too darn bad.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Here's one big reason Americam health care is so expensive.

The sky-high pay of health care CEOs

That was an average of about $28.5 million per CEO and a median of about $17.3 million per CEO. The median household income in 2015 was $56,515, which the average health care CEO made in less than a day. Pharmaceutical and drug-related company CEOs made up 11 of the top 20 highest earners.Jul 24, 2017

I assume you mean, in your vague, muddled way, that you think health INSURANCE is expensive because of CEO salaries. Health care and health insurance are not the same thing, and the salaries of insurance company CEOs have little or nothing to do with the prices of medical treatment.

It's no wonder nothing ever gets settled in this discussion, given the way everyone constantly conflates wildly different things like care vs. insurance, costs vs. spending . . .

The truth is that the cost of health insurance is FAR more affected by any number of other factors besides CEO compensation. Also, however much leftists LOOOOVE to cite raw numbers in tones of gleeful horror, the compensation package for insurance CEOs is comparable to those of CEOs in other industries.