CDZ Asphalt and Concrete cause floods.

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    Asphalt and concrete slow down water soaking into the soil. The Northeast and the industrial Midwest have been experiencing much worse in the way of flooding at a compounding rate for several decades. What reduces flooding are swamps, marshes and other annoying wetlands. Judging from "Super Storm" Sandy the Northeast in particular has been busy paving over wetlands at an insane rate. If even a tropical wave hits anywhere north of the Potomac the results will probably be catastrophic with the possible exceptions of areas with a lot of commercial cranberry bogs, which act like swamps. The tropical storm season really revs up in Sept. What political and economic consequences do you see coming?
     
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    Area devoted to pavement in America is around 16 million hectares (61 million square miles). The annual wheat crop in the United States is around 21 million hectares (we have more total area in wheat fields than paved roads in America). The paved roads would take up an area around the size of Maine.
     
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    Too many paved roads are in places where water would overwise gather to soak into the ground. So, it's not a matter of how much but where they are.
     
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    I don't think roads are the problem. It is the total area covered by buildings, parking lots and other non-percolating improvements. These also create heat islands and their own micro-climates.
     
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    There's also the problems of levees, canals, dams and aqueducts. Murphy's law is always forgotten when those things get built.
     
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    ... And with Interstates when the US Department of Transportation doesn't put in the required drainage the plans called for, and essentially builds a 50 mile long 5' dam on the edge of the Atchafalaya River Basin that floods a quarter of the State.
     
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    While true, this is really ignored because of the AGW crap. I also suspect that if you mine the data non-percolating cycles will pop out at you.

    The towers of death and the hurricane magnets that caused the two X marks the spot of two hurricanes hitting the same place in the same season can sometimes counter the heat sinks by creating permanent low pressure that also cause flooding.
     
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    And this is where capitalism steps in....and finds a fix for the flooding....
     
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    not really. Where's the profit in curing the damage caused by taxoholic states?

    In FL low resident taxes are the result of tourist taxes. floods due to multiple hurricanes hitting the same place in the same hurricane season every so often is a cost of getting really low taxes and better services than we pay for. In the northeast federal disaster relief picks up much of the tab and as long as the states have the money for matching funds it is profitable to have floods.
     
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