As the Smartest President, does Obama understand

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    What the above formula is for?

    A mathematical formula known as Euler's formula?

    The formula known as The Drake equation?

    Or an actuarial formula used in risk analysis for insurance premiums?

    The reason I ask is we all know Obama is one of the smartest Presidents right?

    So wouldn't it though be a correct assumption that Obama recognizes that experts in various fields might have more insight to the costs of health care and just maybe they should have been consulted before Obamacare was assembled?
    Especially now that this study has been released:
    A nationwide study conducted by Milliman Inc. for the Society of Actuaries found that nationwide the premiums in the individual market would increase from 8 to 37 percent in 2014
    with a cumulative increase of as much as 122 percent between 2013 and 2017!!!

    Download it from the Society of Actuaries the study: SOA - Society of Actuaries - Design and Implementation Considerations of ACA Risk Mitigation Programs

    If Obama truly was concerned about the nation's health WHY would he ignore the experts that are telling him health insurance premiums will increase 122% over the next 4 years?

    Why would Obama if he is truly a "smart" person see that Obamacare will destroy health care?
     
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    Who thinks Obama is smart? Just because someone can give a perfectly pronounced speech that was written by someone else and is read off of a teleprompter doesn't mean they're SMART---:badgrin:
     
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    I love dumbass NaziCon threads... Keep 'em coming...
     
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    Maybe we could start with a few of the promises that were made to the American people to pass ObamaCare, promises the president made such as:

    Health insurance: “If you like your health insurance, you will be able to keep your health insurance” —
    when at least 20 million people are likely to lose their job-based health insurance, according to the CBO, and as many as 80 million people could be forced to switch plans to comply with Obamacare, according to McKinsey.

    The deficit: “We will not add one dime to the deficit.” If the president wants to use the Medicare-savings provisions to extend the life of the Medicare trust fund and not to fund the new entitlements created by the law CBO estimates the fiscal impact would be “a net increase in federal deficits of $260 billion” through 2019.

    Health-care costs: Mr. Obama promised during the 2008 campaign that, under his health reform plan, health-insurance premiums would go down by $2,500 a year for every family by the end of his first term.
    But they actually have gone up by nearly as much — from $12,680 in 2008 to $15,073 in 2011.
    Senator Jim DeMint released a report from the Republicans’ Joint Economic Committee quantifying the cost of President Obama’s broken promise to reduce premiums.
    The report finds the cumulative cost (through 2012) of Obama’s broken promise on premiums is $805 billion. During the past four years, the average family has spent a total of $12,230 more on private health insurance, while the average individual has spent $4,163 more.
    More Obamacare Fiction - By Grace-Marie Turner - The Corner - National Review Online
     
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    The smartest President? Smarter than Washington, Adams, Jefferson, or Madison? All four of those men were brilliant. Jefferson especially. I dont think Obama comes close.

    Now he isnt an ignoramous. At least he is still has all his faculties, unlike Woodrow Wilson who was losing his mind after his stroke and had his wife doing alot of his duties. (Though im not sure if he had her do them or she just did them over his lack of objection). And even before then Woodrow Wilson wasnt dumb. May not have been a good man, but he wasnt dumb.
     
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    Historian Michael Beschloss: "Yeah. Even aside from the fact of electing the first African American President and whatever one’s partisan views this is a guy whose IQ is off the charts — I mean you cannot say that he is anything but a very serious and capable leader and — you know — You and I have talked about this for years … … our system doesn’t allow those people to become President, those people meaning people THAT smart and THAT capable
    Imus: What is his IQ?
    Historian Michael Beschloss: Uh. I would say it’s probably – he’s probably the smartest guy ever to become President."
     
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    Smart enough to make the GOP look like the most inept bunch of dummies ever to run a campaign.
     
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    Then why is it only the hyper-partisan left that actually holds that opinion?
     
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    OK. Let's just go with the proven systems. Japan, Canada, Germany, and every other industrial nation in the world all spend less per capita than we do on health care. All cover all of their citizens. And their results are far better than ours. So, drop the ACA, and go the a universal single payer system. Real easy, go with the tested and proven.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVgOl3cETb4]"We're Number 37" - Paul Hipp - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Hey the biggest error the GOP made was assuming the MSM would be fair and impartial!

    Prove to me that this study was wrong with counter arguments OK and then make your inane unsupported comments!
    DID YOU and you other idiots that voted for Obama KNOW>>>

    1) You know for a “fact” that Gas Prices were higher under Bush than we have now. But do you know that September 2012 prices were higher than all but two Bush months, and October was higher than all but four Bush months? Do you know that the highest annual average for gas prices was 2011, and that 2012 is on pace to break this record?

    2) Do you know that GM is on pace to sell less cars in 2012 than they did in 2008, and that Existing Home Sales for 2012 is lower than 2008?

    3) Almost all media and press reports noted that the UR moved up from 7.8% to 7.9% in October because more people entered the workforce. How many Main Stream Media reports in the last three years mentioned that the UR is not above 10% largely because people simply gave up looking for work?

    4) You and everyone around you know the name Valerie Plame and Scooter Libby. Do you know the name of the Eric Holder’s Deputies who ran “Fast and Furious” and the names of those who resigned because they lied to Congress?

    5) You know that Halliburton got no-bid contracts from the Bush Administration. But did you know that the Obama Admin too gave Halliburton big, big no-bid contracts?

    6) You sure know that we lost 4,000 troops in Iraq, but do you know that since the OBL Mission the U.S. lost more than 600 troops in Afghanistan? Do you know that we lost more troops in Afghanistan under Obama who “is ending the war” than during eight years of Bush? Do you know that in the six months leading up to the 2008 elections we lost less troops in Iraq (where we were “stuck”) than the number we lost in recent months in Afghanistan (where things are “ending”)?

    7) Everyone knows that name Cindy Sheehan. How many know the names of the SEAL parents who publicly blamed Obama for the death of their children in Benghazi?

    8) Do you remember that Condoleezza Rice, Bush’s Secretary of State was bashed by media for being in NY during Katrina yet no word where Hillary was during Sandy? (Indeed, who cares where Hillary was? A Secretary of State has nothing to do with a disaster of this kind).

    9) VP Cheney was ripped for being on vacation during the first 72 hours of Katrina, but did you know that VP Biden had five campaign stops on Monday, Wednesday and Thursday of the week of Sandy?

    10) Between Wednesday and Thursday after Sandy, Brian Williams of NBC mentioned Katrina at least five times because he was not able to deny the disastrous response yet at no time did he connect the mess to FEMA and certainly not to Obama. Why?

    11) Katrina hit NOLA on a Monday morning. Do you know that: Bush went on TV days before to warn people to leave? That he declared a Federal State of Emergency for Louisiana the Saturday before? That he “monitored the situation” days in advance (as per later released video)? That he signed Disaster Declarations on Monday which frees up Federal Funds? Yes, those things are exactly the same stuff that Christie went gaga over Obama for doing.

    12) Had the pubic been aware of all those Obama shortcomings as they were about Bush’s, would Obama win this election? Be honest. The answer is: HELL NO!

    http://gestetnerupdates.com/2012/11/09/if-you-doubt-media-bias-helped-obama-win-answer-those-questions/
     
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