As Go Tunisia and Egypt, So Goes US?

Would it help if I told you you're delusional.
Delusion or Desperation?

"One of the driving factors behind the protests is the decades-long stagnation of the Egyptian economy and a growing sense of inequality.

"'They’re all protesting about growing inequalities, they’re all protesting against growing nepotism. The top of the pyramid was getting richer and richer,' said Emile Hokayem of the International Institute for Strategic Studies in the Middle East."

As Go Egypt...

The Gini Coefficient in the US is worse than Egypt, Tunisia and Yemen.

What's the diagnosis, Doctor?

Punny..."top of Pyramid was getting richer and richer...":lol:

I'll agree that there's some vast feeling of class inequity in the USA when Mexicans stop crossing the border to escape class inequity.
Some Gini Coefficients:

Mexico: 48.2 (2008)

US: 45.0 (2007)
 
um...no.
As long as the TV still works, and fast food still exist - Americans are too otherwise occupied to notice much anything else.
What if the Federal Reserve turned every $10 bill in the country into a $5?

Or worse??

I would be impressed...that would be one heck of a magic trick.
Hitler found it useful

"The inflation in the Weimar Republic was a period of hyperinflation in Germany (the Weimar Republic) between 1921 and 1923.
 
if you dont have irrational hatred for people who have more money than you, it really doesnt matter how much they have does it?

I highly doubt the people have been rioting because the rich have so much money.
 
um...no.
As long as the TV still works, and fast food still exist - Americans are too otherwise occupied to notice much anything else.
What if the Federal Reserve turned every $10 bill in the country into a $5?

Or worse??

The 'worse' would have to be a growing police state with gobs of oppression.
Possibly including gobs of private corporate police officers enforcing the oppression.

If the collapse of the US dollar means hundreds of thousands of combat vets come home to 10% unemployment levels, some will have no choice but to serve in a US occupation.
 
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The last two years have seen the biggest economic downturn since 1929.

Americans are being told austerity is the only solution.

Should that same policy apply to ALL Americans except the richest 1%?

So you want the people with money spending less, which leads to less goods and services being purchased and hence less jobs?

People shouldnt spend money they don't have. But if you have plenty of money, go ahead and spend it.
 
Yemen next?...
:confused:
Egypt's revolution redefines what's possible in the Arab world
February 11, 2011 - The Middle East has been riveted by the success of the grass-roots revolution that ended Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak's 30-year reign.
As darkness fell over the winter-chilled Middle East on Friday, television screens lit up living rooms from Tehran to Damascus to Rabat. All eyes were riveted by the spectacle that just weeks ago seemed impossible: the toppling of Egypt’s President Hosni Mubarak after nearly 30 years in power. The collapse in Egypt took just 18 days of bold protest, inspired by the overthrow of Tunisia’s long-standing strongman just weeks before. For Arabs used to a heavy hand and little hope, Egypt’s revolution has redefined the possible, before their very eyes.

“Everyone is watching this – hundreds of millions of Arabs, Muslims, and who knows who else?” says Shadi Hamid, the director of research at the Brookings Doha Center, speaking from Cairo. “The Arab world is never going to go back to what it was. We are going to wake up to a new Egypt tomorrow, and we’ll also wake up to a new Arab world,” says Mr. Hamid. “What has changed is that Arabs know that they can change their own situation without the help of the US, without the help of the international community, they can just go out on the streets and do it on their own – and no one can take that away from them,” he says.

Across the region, Arabs have watched transformative events unfold day after day, first in Tunisia where a single self-immolation in protest in mid-December sparked weeks of demonstrations and finally regime change. Then Egyptians began gathering strength on the streets, battled Mr. Mubarak’s security forces, clung on in Tahrir Square in the face of mob attacks, and then simply took over when the regime began losing its ability to control or intimidate the crowds.

“On the psychological and symbolic level, it is a shattering moment,” says Fawaz Gerges, director of the Middle East Centre at the London School of Economics. “Remember that Mubarak was the public face of political authoritarianism in the Arab world. He had built one of the most feared security apparatuses, employing five million personnel.” The forced exit of Mubarak from the presidential palace has sent shock waves to Arab rulers. “Every village. Every neighborhood. Every Arab regardless of how poor, or alienated or marginalized, [now has] a sense of empowerment, a sense of revival,” says Mr. Gerges. “The psychology of the Arab world has changed.”

'Bellwether for the region'

See also:

As Mubarak resigns, Yemenis call for a revolution of their own
February 11, 2011 - Thousands of secessionists protested in Yemen today in an example of how disparate movements across the Middle East are tapping the anti-regime fervor for their own disparate aims.
As jubilant protesters in Cairo celebrated the ouster of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, Yemenis were calling for a revolution of their own. In the southern port city of Yemen, protesters marched through the district of Mansoura, waving the old flag of South Arabia and chanting, "Revolution, revolution for the south."

Just hours before, security forces had fired live ammunition during a protest on the same street, according to eyewitnesses. Hundreds more staged ad hoc demonstrations throughout Aden, as well as in other cities across Yemen's south.

"After Hosni Mubarak, Yemen is going to be next. I know it," said Zahra Saleh, a prominent secession activist watching the scenes in Cairo on TV in a small Aden office. "Now our revolution has to be stronger," declared Ali Jarallah, a leader in the southern separatist movement sitting with Ms. Saleh on the low cushions of a diwan.

Divergent aims of Yemeni protesters
Yemen, Jordan, Syria, Saudi???

Could what we've witnessed this year in the Middle East have occurred without the Internet?

It seems likely to me thousands of Egyptians would have died in the first week of their uprising and most of us would have moved on by now if not for cyberspace.

Are there similar uprisings in store for the US?

An Internet campaign in 2012 to convince millions of US voters to FLUSH all elected Republicans AND Democrats from DC?

Egypt will be watching.
 
Do you have any thoughts on how rich US generals and admirals would respond to that uprising?

What "Rich US Generals and Admirals?"

Like who?

Like the ones who make between $130,000 and $227,000 a year, and then retire with a pension 50% of their last rate of pay.
I suspect some are making five to ten times as much in the corporate world.

Eisenhower greatly underestimated the power of the military, industrial, financial and congressional complex. If the dollar collapses, will the US military be privatized?

Blackwater (Xe) meets NASCAR?

Where is Smedley Butler when we really need him?
 
if you dont have irrational hatred for people who have more money than you, it really doesnt matter how much they have does it?

I highly doubt the people have been rioting because the rich have so much money.
"Why are Egyptians unhappy? They have basically no more freedom than Tunisians.

"Egypt is ranked 138th of 167 countries on The Economist's Democracy index, a widely accepted measure of political freedom.

"That ranking puts Egypt just seven spots ahead of Tunisia.

"And Egyptians are significantly poorer than their cousins to the west."
 
The last two years have seen the biggest economic downturn since 1929.

Americans are being told austerity is the only solution.

Should that same policy apply to ALL Americans except the richest 1%?

So you want the people with money spending less, which leads to less goods and services being purchased and hence less jobs?

People shouldnt spend money they don't have. But if you have plenty of money, go ahead and spend it.
Be careful what you wish for:

"...the wealthy soon reach a limit on how much they can consume.

"They spend their money buying financial securities – mainly bonds, which end up indebting the economy.

"And the debt overhead is what is pushing today’s economy into deepening depression.

Obama's...
 
Do you know if active-duty officers are permitted to accept employment outside the military?

With defense contractors, for example?

What about investing in war?

There would seem to be a conflict of interest involved if high ranking US officers personally profit from the use of high tech weapons.
 
The inequity in income and wealth in the US is a cause for concern. The last time it was near where it is at present, was 1929. We have exceeded the inequity of that period. When the prices for food and energy start soaring, there will be some major unrest among the citizens of this nation.

The question then will they address the root causes, or be caught up in an ideological nightmare such as happened in the Germany in the 1930's? From the number of people that identify with the idiocies of the Teaparty, I fear the latter for this nation.
 
Oh my God...is it...it...possible?
Someone actually as dumb as rd?

Wow...
The Reality...

"The reality, of course, is that Egypt is about Egypt.

"No one in Tahrir Square is waiting for Newt Gingrich's, or even Barack Obama's blessing. And the silly US TV anchor, who recently tried to get the Muslim Brotherhood spokesman to say that he would recognise Israel as a Jewish state, was just that -- silly.

And just as silly was Eliot Abrams, one of the neo- conservative ideologues-in-residence in the Bush White House who wrote an article last Sunday attempting to give Bush credit for the uprising in Egypt, since Bush advocated for democracy while Obama has not.

"The reality is more complex.

"Bush did speak about democracy, but then went on to pursue regional policies that were so wildly unpopular with the Arab public that governments friendly with the US felt compelled to subdue their own public's outcry in order to maintain their friendship and support for the US.

"Arab leaders found that their embrace of and cooperation with the US could be politically costly.

"Demands on their friendship only served to delegitimise their rule at home.

"When the US's favourable rating is 12 per cent in Egypt (and lower still in Jordan), cosying up to America can be quite costly."
 

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