Artic Sea Ice Increasing at Record Rates

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    I might have known. Lordy, lordy, Watt is a clever liar snaring not so clever people who are too simple to simply google Arctic Ice, and go to the scientific sources for the data.

    http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/N_timeseries.png

    As you can see, the 2009 freeze up has just caught up to the 2007 freeze up, the lowest on record. For a week or so, it was actually less than 2007. Yes, the rate was a record, just in the opposite direction that the charleton, James Watt, suggests.
     
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    Old Crock, your the biggest charleton posting here, another example may refresh your drug damaged brain.

    http://www.usmessageboard.com/energy/93857-100-alternative-energy-worldwide-by-2030-a-4.html

     
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    At least he didn't throw out, destroy, or lose the raw data when it contradicts his previously made claims......not that those who have been pushing a man-made global warming agenda would ever do that washingtonpost.com
     
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    Well that's inconvenient.
     
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    so you got busted posting a balatant lie and your comeback is a link to a WaHoPo story........WOW....L.O.L - you are one chickenshit mutha fucka!
     
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    ITs not a lie, the nothern and southern icecaps, when combined, have not shrunk in the last 20 years. One has shrunk the other grew.

    Pffft.
     
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    Actually folks, Old Rocks failed to even get the author of the article in question correct - it was not Watts, but rather Jeff Id of the Air Vent blog - the blog I believe was first to break the climategate emails wide open to the world.

    Having failed to even recognize this most basic of facts is clear evidence that Old Rocks did not even read the linked information that began the thread, but rather went off on his utterly predictable defense of the flat-earth global warming religion.

    Within the context of the Jeff Id article, which is quite interesting, we see the final paragraphs correcting the false assumptions of the repeated global warmer headlines, and giving a far more even handed and likely statistically accurate accounting of the Arctic ice growth and decline patterns...


    Looking at this plot of the 30 day slopes of actual NASA gridded data, the maximum ice melt rate occurs in 1999 and in 2004 not in 2007. Surprisingly the maximum ice growth rates occur in 2007 and 2008, I don’t remember those headlines for some reason. Don’t forget when looking at the 2008 – 09 peak, the data is preliminary and hasn’t been through the same processing as the other data. From looking at the unprocessed data I doubt it will change much.

    Certainly the 30 year arctic trend in ice area is downward, even the most committed global warming scientist has to admit this happens regularly in climate along with regular 30 year uptrends. The questions are, did we cause it or not, and was CO2 the instigating factor. The rapid recovery of ice levels has to have some meaning regarding the severity of the problem. This goes directly in the face of accelerated global warming and the doom and gloom scenarios promoted by our politicians and polyscienticians.

    Why are my conclusions different from the news reported records? I think it’s likely due to the fact that the scientists used the monthly data which is processed using a weighted filter of the daily data that incorporates a longer time frame than a single month. This means their use of the monthly data to establish a monthly trend was in error and the real record down trends were actually set in 1999, 2003 and 1984. While the record uptrends were in 2007, 2008 and 1996.


    Arctic Sea Ice Increases at Record Rate « Watts Up With That?


    If Old Rocks is not careful, he is going to accumulate a pile of failings on this topic to challenge those of Chris...
     
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    But, but, it's a graph on a right wing website!

    It must be true!
     
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