arrest made in spain terrorist act

Discussion in 'Middle East - General' started by jon_forward, Mar 13, 2004.

  1. jon_forward
    Offline

    jon_forward Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2003
    Messages:
    2,436
    Thanks Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Location:
    nashville.tn
    Ratings:
    +5
    Top Stories - AP

    Spain Announces Five Arrests in Bombings
    16 minutes ago Add Top Stories - AP to My Yahoo!



    MADRID, Spain - Spain's interior minister Saturday announced the arrest of five suspects in the Madrid bombings, including three Moroccans.
    The other two suspects had Indian passports, a ministry spokesman said.


    The five were arrested in connection with a cell phone inside an explosives-packed gym bag found on one of the bombed commuter trains.


    The suspects "could be related to Moroccan extremist groups," the minister said. "But we should not rule out anything. Police are still investigating all avenues. This opens an important avenue."


    The 10 bombings on Thursday, which killed 200 people on Madrid commuter trains, amounted to the worst terror attack in Spanish history.


    Families began burying their dead Saturday as a cold drizzle fell on Madrid on the eve of parliamentary elections.


    In a show of national unity, massive crowds gathered in Barcelona, Seville, Valencia and even in Spain's Canary Islands off western Africa on Friday night to protest the attack. State TV said nationwide, more than 11 million marched — one-quarter of Spain's 42 million people.


    In Madrid, black bows of mourning dotted the city, on shop windows, on flags draped from balconies, and on lapels.


    Madrid's biggest funeral home, Tanatorio Sur, was so overcrowded that some coffins were placed in a room normally used for staff meetings. Outside, hearses carried coffins in and out all morning.


    Investigators were focusing on a stolen white van found in the town of Alcala de Henares outside Madrid hours after the blasts. Police found detonators and an Arabic-language cassette tape with Quranic verses inside. Alcala de Henares is the town where three of the four bombed trains originated.


    A doorman told police he saw three young men carrying knapsacks toward the station in Alcala de Henares, a senior police official said Saturday on condition of anonymity. Officials have said the bombs used in the train attacks were concealed in knapsacks.


    The doorman saw the men get out of the van and "walk toward the train carrying backpacks and he was struck by the fact that they were wearing ski masks when the weather was not suited for that kind of clothing," the official said.


    "It is one of the main focuses of the investigation," the official said. "It is very important."


    A London-based Arabic newspaper also received a claim of responsibility in al-Qaida's name that called the attack "part of settling old accounts with Spain, the crusader, and America's ally in its war against Islam."


    The attack's lethal coordination and timing — 10 explosions within 15 minutes — suggested al-Qaida. But the compressed dynamite used in the backpack bombs is an explosive favored by the Basque separatist group ETA.


    ETA issued an apparently unprecedented denial Friday, saying it had nothing to do with the bombings. It has claimed responsibility for more than 800 deaths since 1968 in its fight for an independent state in the northern Basque region.


    Debate on who is behind the attacks could sway voters in Sunday's election.

    If ETA is deemed responsible, that could boost support for Mariano Rajoy, Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar's hand-picked candidate to succeed him as prime minister. Both have supported a crackdown on ETA, ruling out talks and backing a ban on ETA's political wing, Batasuna.

    However, if Thursday's bombings are seen by voters as the work of al-Qaida, that could draw their attention to Aznar's vastly unpopular decision to endorse the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq (news - web sites) and deploy Spanish troops there.

    Opinion polls have put Rajoy 3-5 percentage points ahead of Socialist candidate Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero. No surveys have been released since the attacks.

    Aznar, in power since 1996, is honoring a pledge not to seek a third term, saying he wants renewal in government and his party.

    Spanish radio station Cadena Ser broadcast a 12-second recording of an unidentified woman who had called a colleague's voice mail after an initial blast on a train at the Atocha station.

    The woman, who survived, was in the process of fleeing as she frantically says: "I'm in Atocha. There's a bomb on the train! We had to _" and then two more blasts are heard.
    ___________________________________________________
    too bad the guy that noticed the Ski masks didnt act on his gut feelings
     
  2. wonderwench
    Online

    wonderwench Guest

    Ratings:
    +0
    The attacks are not within the standard profile of the ETA - and in the past, they have communicated responsibility for their attacks.

    I believe these will be traced to AQ or some affiliate.
     
  3. jon_forward
    Offline

    jon_forward Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2003
    Messages:
    2,436
    Thanks Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Location:
    nashville.tn
    Ratings:
    +5
    Yes, I agree...It would be suspect for ETA to deny responsability for something they usually would gloat over. Interesting that the explosives used where of the same type that ETA has used in the past??? easy to get ahold of maybe?? the piss-ants that have done this only make all extremist, be them for whatever, fringe dwellers of society.
     
  4. wonderwench
    Online

    wonderwench Guest

    Ratings:
    +0
    Given that the type of dynamite used by the ETA is public knowledge, it's quite conceivable that the terrorists copied this method in order to confuse investigators.

    IMO, terrorists & violent extremists are already fringe dwellers.
     
  5. jon_forward
    Offline

    jon_forward Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2003
    Messages:
    2,436
    Thanks Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Location:
    nashville.tn
    Ratings:
    +5
    I also consider PETA and Green-Peace as extremist groups, just not in the same league as AQ or ETA, PLO ect, ect...this scenerio is possible if the act was meant to not only destablize the country but also the throw the election into termoil. which it has. It has also pissed the general population off, not at the government as it was meant to do but at the extremist themselves...ie ETA,
     
  6. wonderwench
    Online

    wonderwench Guest

    Ratings:
    +0
    All extremist groups are not terrorist organizations; but all terrorist organizations are extremist groups.

    The Jihad is served both by destabilizing the national security of Western nations - as well as by drawing other extremist groups into the fray.

    As far as Greenpeace and PETA are concerned - each contain fanatical members who view humans as a "pox" and who have committed acts of violence. The difference is that they are not sponsored by the governments of other countries, and lack the vast financial and logistical support structure available to the Jihad.
     
  7. Comrade
    Offline

    Comrade Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2004
    Messages:
    1,873
    Thanks Received:
    167
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Seattle, WA.
    Ratings:
    +167
    Hey does anyone know when the election results come in?

    I wonder how effective these attacks could be on bringing down the center right government. Don't they seem well timed? I guess the arrests are well timed as well too!
     
  8. jon_forward
    Offline

    jon_forward Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2003
    Messages:
    2,436
    Thanks Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Location:
    nashville.tn
    Ratings:
    +5
    I could ccare less about timing, catch as catch can...hope they get the lot of them....they should have to suffer as their victims did!!!!
     
  9. Comrade
    Offline

    Comrade Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2004
    Messages:
    1,873
    Thanks Received:
    167
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Seattle, WA.
    Ratings:
    +167
  10. Annie
    Offline

    Annie Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2003
    Messages:
    50,847
    Thanks Received:
    4,644
    Trophy Points:
    1,790
    Ratings:
    +4,770
    Haven't been around for awhile, a bit too busy with school, but I had to check out what you all thought of Spain's terror attack. My heart goes out to those killed, like all of the posts I've read, I believe it will be linked back to AQ, too many hallmarks of their MO. ETA hasn't made a point of killing civilians, rather political/ideological targets.

    I read somewhere that the original reports that the explosives were similair to what ETA has used in the past, were erroneous. I hope but doubt, that this will wake up Europe on the need for cohesiveness of democracies. Instead it will probably lead to further breaches.
     

Share This Page