Army aviators, ready to leave the military, are told they owe 3 more years instead

[AMart]

Guess the gay and trans recruiting efforts are not producing the intended results.

Hundreds of Army aviation officers who were set to leave the military are being held to another three years of service after they say the branch quietly reinterpreted part of their contract amid retention and recruitment issues.

The shift has sparked an uproar among the more than 600 affected active-duty commissioned officers, including some who say their plans to start families, launch businesses and begin their civilian lives have been suddenly derailed............................................

Army aviators, ready to leave the military, are told they owe 3 more years instead

Hundreds of Army aviation officers who were set to leave the military are being held to another three years of service after they say the branch quietly reinterpreted part of their contract amid retention and recruitment issues.

www.yahoo.com

 

[pknopp]

I don't know why anyone would be willing to sign up. Chances are good you will be asked to give your life to some stupid useless war in a place you have no business being in.

 

[luiza]

Tells you everything , in one little cameo , that you need to know about America's unpreparedness for war . Apart from losing yet again .

It's as though the people in charge have been taken over by the Bogey Men . rofl .

 

[JohnDB]

Joint Chief currently is the biggest political hack we have had in a while.

There is the trouble....
Removing him would fix the issue.

Armed services hate being used as political chess pieces.(pawns) Servicemen flee when that happens. But plutocrats don't actually care at all about people's lives....they want to create their own utopia. Despite what normal people really want.

 

[cnm]

You really are full of it, aren't you?

As part of a program known as BRADSO, cadets commissioning from the U.S. Military Academy or Army Cadet Command from 2008 and 2020 were able to request a branch of their choice, including aviation, by agreeing to serve an additional three years on active duty.​

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For years, the Army allowed some aviation officers to serve those three years concurrently, and not consecutively, along with their roughly contracted seven or eight years of service.​

 

[JohnDB]

Training Turbofan pilots is extremely expensive. $250,000 minimum in the private sector not including the use of weapons and countermeasures in a hostile environment. Or the mid air refueling....

Gubbermint Military is not a free school.

 

[Penelope]

"This isn’t the life we thought it was."
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What is the life we thought it was. They won't quit.

 

[WinterBorn]

Enlisted people have a date they will get out on their ID card (barring war). Officers do not. The military ID for an officer has "Indefinite" in the place enlisted men have a date.

 

[AMart]

Training Turbofan pilots is extremely expensive. $250,000 minimum in the private sector not including the use of weapons and countermeasures in a hostile environment. Or the mid air refueling....

Gubbermint Military is not a free school.

It was a 6 year commitment and starting a couple of years back it was bumped to 10 years.

Commissioned and warrant officers who enter flight training starting in October will incur a 10-year service obligation once they become rated Army aviators, according to guidance published Aug. 12. The service requirement is four years longer than the previous commitment.

Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy signed a memorandum for the change in June. The new requirement matches the service commitment for Air Force aviators.

Soldiers currently in training are exempt from the new policy, according to Chief Warrant Officer 5 William S. Kearns, an aviation policy integrator for the Army G-1 office. The new policy will also apply to the Army Reserve and National Guard, though the obligated service remains part-time.

“We’re looking at troops selected for flight training in the fiscal year 2021 and beyond,” Kearns said in an Army news release.

Rising costs and helicopter upgrades drove the new policy.

“There are many complexities in these advanced helicopters, which translates to increased costs in flight hours, maintenance and training requirements,” Kearns said in the release. “They require more time for people to gain experience. There’s the technical expertise that goes along with it as well. In the end, it’s the Army getting a good return on the investments.”

Like the other armed services, the Army has struggled with pilot retention in recent years.

New Army aviators will incur 10-year service obligations, up from six, starting in October

The Army has struggled with pilot retention in recent years and the cost of aviation training has increased.

www.armytimes.com

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Several friends left when the going was good because they were afraid of mandatory extensions in the future.

 

[odanny]

That is some serious bullshit. Basically what the Army is trying to do is make their pilots lifers. If you go 10 years, you might as well go another 10 and retire. Having 3 years of mandatory service tacked onto your enlistment is crazy.

 

[Couchpotato]

Enlisted people have a date they will get out on their ID card (barring war). Officers do not. The military ID for an officer has "Indefinite" in the place enlisted men have a date.

That’s not entirely true. Officers have an initial requirement when they first enter service. Whether that’s through one of the service academies, ROTC, PLC, etc. Those junior officers are evaluated during that time and are either selected to be able to continue serving or not. Once an Officer is selected they can continue to “served at the pleasure of the President” or until they resign their commission or retire. Officers 100% have a date they have to serve to and that their service expires on when they initially enter service.

Also, and I dint know that this applies to these particular officers but many Army Aviators are Warrant Officers which is a completely different animal all together.

 

[Couchpotato]

That is some serious bullshit. Basically what the Army is trying to do is make their pilots lifers. If you go 10 years, you might as well go another 10 and retire. Having 3 years of mandatory service tacked onto your enlistment is crazy.

That’s not remotely true any more with the new retirement program.

 

[odanny]

That’s not remotely true any more with the new retirement program.

I don't know what a "new retirement program" is, when I was in, it was 20 years to get a pension.

 

[odanny]

Army Aviators are Warrant Officers which is a completely different animal all together.

All Army aviators are either Warrant Officers or Commissioned Officers. The vast majority are Warrant officers, over 90%. Those in leadership positions, such as commissioned officers, can be aviators whilst company commanders. I did 6 years in Army aviation (enlisted)

 

[Couchpotato]

I don't know what a "new retirement program" is, when I was in, it was 20 years to get a pension.

Well it ain’t that way anymore. That change happened 7-8 years ago.

 

[Couchpotato]

All Army aviators are either Warrant Officers or Commissioned Officers. The vast majority are Warrant officers, over 90%. Those in leadership positions, such as commissioned officers, can be aviators whilst company commanders. I did 6 years in Army aviation (enlisted)

It’s closer to 70 I’d guess

 

[odanny]

It’s closer to 70 I’d guess

You'd guess wrong.

 

[mak2]

Several friends left when the going was good because they were afraid of mandatory extensions in the future.

What were their MOS's?

 

[Couchpotato]

You'd guess wrong.

Wanna bet?