Arizona sovereignty back on ballot

[hazlnut]

Arizona sovereignty back on ballot

What this is:

The 2014 election is more than 14 months away, and the field — from governor to Legislature — is far from set. But one thing is certain: Voters will get to decide on another state-sovereignty issue.

The yet-unnamed measure differs from the one voters defeated just last year. This measure, which the Legislature referred to the ballot, would let voters decide if they want to ignore some federal laws.

“This has to do with any federal action the people or the Legislature deems to be unconstitutional,” said state Sen. Chester Crandell, R-Heber,the measure’s primary author.

If voters approve the measure, it would allow lawmakers, or the voters directly, to decide on a case-by-case basis if the state should withhold staffing or other resources needed to carry out a federal policy. Topics could range from federal efforts to close roads in the national forests to air-pollution issues to highway construction.

Guess they've never heard of the 10th Amendment.

The funny thing about this is the Fed is usually the one providing the staffing, resources, and funding.

Seem like more a symbolic act of stupidity.

There really is no "ignoring" of federal laws -- they can opt-out of federal programs and turn down funding if they choose, but then their citizens may suffer unfairly. But which federal laws do they think they can ignore?

And AZ is always complaining that the Fed doesn't do enough immigration enforcement.

Make up your minds AZ.

 

[THORAX]

Good. Hopefully other states follow in AZ foot steps and show this tyrannical federal government they can't boss people around anymore.

More states rights pls ty.

 

[whitehall]

Lighten up lefties. A lot more issues are at stake in 2014 than an Arizona ballot. Aren't there any current issues to address like the freaking collapse of the US foreign policy while Kerry is out windsurfing or the dozen scandals stalking the administration? Doesn't the theft of 400 SAM missiles at Benghazi bother anyone and the possibility that they might be delivered into the US by illegal aliens while Homeland is busy feeling up LOL's at airports?

 

[THORAX]

Lighten up lefties. A lot more issues are at stake in 2014 than an Arizona ballot. Aren't there any current issues to address like the freaking collapse of the US foreign policy while Kerry is out windsurfing or the dozen scandals stalking the administration? Doesn't the theft of 400 SAM missiles at Benghazi bother anyone and the possibility that they might be delivered into the US by illegal aliens while Homeland is busy feeling up LOL's at airports?

The facist statist of the left want to keep their underlings (states) in check to maintain their imperial empire.

They're angry they don't have an appointed lord to rule over the sand kingdom of the south west (arizona.)

 

[bodecea]

Good. Hopefully other states follow in AZ foot steps and show this tyrannical federal government they can't boss people around anymore.

More states rights pls ty.

Better yet, they can secede...like Texas promised to.

 

[THORAX]

Good. Hopefully other states follow in AZ foot steps and show this tyrannical federal government they can't boss people around anymore.

More states rights pls ty.

Better yet, they can secede...like Texas promised to.

Shit I'm down dude.

Shit.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Arizona sovereignty back on ballot

What this is:

The 2014 election is more than 14 months away, and the field — from governor to Legislature — is far from set. But one thing is certain: Voters will get to decide on another state-sovereignty issue.

The yet-unnamed measure differs from the one voters defeated just last year. This measure, which the Legislature referred to the ballot, would let voters decide if they want to ignore some federal laws.

“This has to do with any federal action the people or the Legislature deems to be unconstitutional,” said state Sen. Chester Crandell, R-Heber,the measure’s primary author.

If voters approve the measure, it would allow lawmakers, or the voters directly, to decide on a case-by-case basis if the state should withhold staffing or other resources needed to carry out a federal policy. Topics could range from federal efforts to close roads in the national forests to air-pollution issues to highway construction.

Guess they've never heard of the 10th Amendment.

The funny thing about this is the Fed is usually the one providing the staffing, resources, and funding.

Seem like more a symbolic act of stupidity.

There really is no "ignoring" of federal laws -- they can opt-out of federal programs and turn down funding if they choose, but then their citizens may suffer unfairly. But which federal laws do they think they can ignore?

And AZ is always complaining that the Fed doesn't do enough immigration enforcement.

Make up your minds AZ.

The FED hasn't done jack sh*t to enforce immigration, that's kinda the problem here. They won't even enforce current law.

I'm good with picking and choosing what bullsh*t laws the FEDs pass down why wouldn't you be ok with that?

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Good. Hopefully other states follow in AZ foot steps and show this tyrannical federal government they can't boss people around anymore.

More states rights pls ty.

Better yet, they can secede...like Texas promised to.

How many states do you think would go with Texas and Arizona?

 

[Missourian]

Good for Arizona!

Any steps distancing the states from the central planners is a move in the right direction.

 

[THORAX]

Good. Hopefully other states follow in AZ foot steps and show this tyrannical federal government they can't boss people around anymore.

More states rights pls ty.

Better yet, they can secede...like Texas promised to.

How many states do you think would go with Texas and Arizona?

Maybe New Mexico, Lousiana, Oklahoma, Mississippi, Alabama and a few others.

But the federal govt won't allow it because there's too much oil reserves in the south. If there wasn't any oil here then the leftist statist wouldn't care if the south left the union TBH.

 

[Vandalshandle]

I live in AZ. This is just another dog and pony show that the legislature puts on every year. Nobody here takes it seriously. They want to take over the Grand Canyon, assume the jurisdiction of enforcing federal laws on immigration, etc., etc. They do this every year, as sort of a ritual for the benefit of the Tea Party folks. Then, when whatever they do is declared unconstitutional, they can tell the folks back home, "Well, we tried". Then, they get to work cutting funding for this, or that state budget item, which is what they should have been doing in the first place.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

All 50 states already are sovereign independent countries. Always have been.

 

[hazlnut]

Good. Hopefully other states follow in AZ foot steps and show this tyrannical federal government they can't boss people around anymore.

More states rights pls ty.

Get a dictionary and look up the word "Tyrannical" -- now stop misusing it.

 

[Rct_Tsoul]

Good. Hopefully other states follow in AZ foot steps and show this tyrannical federal government they can't boss people around anymore.

More states rights pls ty.

It doesn't matter, lets say AZ breaks away from the USA completely, unless they have all the natural resources to sustain the population, any products going in or out of the state will be chicken taxed or not allowed to pass at all, the sheeple of AZ will be wiping their asses with their shirt or left hand like a 3rd world country, last but not least, AZ can be accused of hiding weapons of mass destruction (WMD's) and a full scale military invasion could begin, this idea of States sovereignty is stupid, it's just about as stupid as a filthy non-American country saying that America should stay out of their business and stop meddling in their affairs.