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Flopper, unless the law has recently been changed, there is no closed door for legal immigration from Mexico. My one time housekeeper, who has become a personal friend and now works for just about everybody in the local family, has had her green card for a couple of years now, is running her own little housekeeping service, and making a very good living doing so. She has been studying English--speaks it pretty well but still has some difficulty with reading and writing it but is getting there--I've been helping tutor on that and the U.S. Constitution--but she, her three kids, and sister will be taking their citizenship test within the next six months.
Her mother, from Mexico, comes to visit intermittently. Illegally of course, but I'll admit I look the other way on that because "Mama" is just here to visit her kids and then goes home. She isn't milking the US system for anything.
These are very good people who have done it the legal way. They want charity for nothing but only want the chance to taste a bit of the American dream. And they want to be Americans with all that means. They are exactly the kind of folks we want to be Americans.
Yes, immigration laws have changed and it is very difficult to legally immigrate from Mexico. In fact, most of those that come over illegally would have no chance at all of immigrating to the US. Work Visa's use to be fairly easy to get, but not today. Getting a work visa dose not mean you can immigrate.Flopper, unless the law has recently been changed, there is no closed door for legal immigration from Mexico. My one time housekeeper, who has become a personal friend and now works for just about everybody in the local family, has had her green card for a couple of years now, is running her own little housekeeping service, and making a very good living doing so. She has been studying English--speaks it pretty well but still has some difficulty with reading and writing it but is getting there--I've been helping tutor on that and the U.S. Constitution--but she, her three kids, and sister will be taking their citizenship test within the next six months.
Her mother, from Mexico, comes to visit intermittently. Illegally of course, but I'll admit I look the other way on that because "Mama" is just here to visit her kids and then goes home. She isn't milking the US system for anything.
These are very good people who have done it the legal way. They want charity for nothing but only want the chance to taste a bit of the American dream. And they want to be Americans with all that means. They are exactly the kind of folks we want to be Americans.
Yes, immigration laws have changed and it is very difficult to legally immigrate from Mexico. In fact, most of those that come over illegally would have no chance at all of immigrating to the US. Work Visa's use to be fairly easy to get, but not today. Getting a work visa dose not mean you can immigrate.Flopper, unless the law has recently been changed, there is no closed door for legal immigration from Mexico. My one time housekeeper, who has become a personal friend and now works for just about everybody in the local family, has had her green card for a couple of years now, is running her own little housekeeping service, and making a very good living doing so. She has been studying English--speaks it pretty well but still has some difficulty with reading and writing it but is getting there--I've been helping tutor on that and the U.S. Constitution--but she, her three kids, and sister will be taking their citizenship test within the next six months.
Her mother, from Mexico, comes to visit intermittently. Illegally of course, but I'll admit I look the other way on that because "Mama" is just here to visit her kids and then goes home. She isn't milking the US system for anything.
These are very good people who have done it the legal way. They want charity for nothing but only want the chance to taste a bit of the American dream. And they want to be Americans with all that means. They are exactly the kind of folks we want to be Americans.
http://nysj.org/s/316/images/editor...irmly anchored in the/Immigration Process.pdf
1. National ID linked to bometric verification
2. Send employers to JAIL for hiring illegals
3. Once the jobs dry up....illegals will go home
Wrong. If you are unskilled or even if you have a trade, you can not legally immigrate to the US unless you have immediate family living in the US legally. For about 99% of all Mexicans, there is no way they can legally immigrate to the US.That makes sense to me, as long as it is coupled to business accountability and border security. It has to be consensus on the whole package and future of America.
There is one problem with this argument. we already have a path to citizenship in this country, but the Mexican illegals didn't get the memo. Because it does not involve jumping our border illegally and stealing someones identity to stay here.
REST IN PEACE AMERICA
forget the America that use to be here
A place where LOYAL Americans use to choose the President
Coming soon thanks to Obama we will soon have a country that our President is picked by people who are loyal to and love Mexico and are Mexicans living here only given citizenship to buy their votes
Rot in hell all you people who put this man in office!!!!
A little loud there don't you think?
Path to Citizenship is in the bill in order to get wider support. In a NY Times Poll, 62% of Americans say illegal immigrants that have been here 2 yrs should be able to apply for legal status.If we give amnesty to people who stole into our country, stole our jobs, kept our wages artificially low, stole our identities, our ss numbers, etc, why not give amnesty to all burglars? All car thieves? All bank robbers? After all, they just want a better life too!
Where does the amnesty stop?
Again we've had amnesty several times in the past and the only result was a higher rate of illegals crossing the border, why does anyone believe another amnesty will be different?
You miss the point of my post. IF legalizing all the illegals was a good idea then it wouldn't have to be tied to border security in order to make it happen. As Jon Kyl pointed out, our security is being held hostage to the amnesty agenda. Politicians know that there is no way that they could get amnesty passed without hooking it to our national security.
I think the national id card is more important than speeding billions more to secure the boarders but beefing up boarder security is needed to get more support for the bill.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/25/us/25poll.html
That makes sense to me, as long as it is coupled to business accountability and border security. It has to be consensus on the whole package and future of America.
If you couple it with business accountability and border security then it becomes a comprehensive immigration bill. We already have laws for business accountablilty and border security that we can enforce. The question is what to do about the current illegals. Do you think the path to citizenship can't stand on it's own?
Not with me it can't. I am against amnesty. They want to be citizens go home and apply through channels. Period.
If you couple it with business accountability and border security then it becomes a comprehensive immigration bill. We already have laws for business accountablilty and border security that we can enforce. The question is what to do about the current illegals. Do you think the path to citizenship can't stand on it's own?
Not with me it can't. I am against amnesty. They want to be citizens go home and apply through channels. Period.
We do not need any new laws just enforce our current immigration laws, enforce the borders period. we want our laws enforced why should we give special treatment to cheats and law breakers. go back to where you came from fill out the proper forms and wait in line with the rest of the immigrants that are seeking to come here.
What you advocate is changing nothing. Just tell the INS and Boarder Patrol to do a better job. That does not solve the problem. We can continue to do the same thing and the results will be same.If you couple it with business accountability and border security then it becomes a comprehensive immigration bill. We already have laws for business accountablilty and border security that we can enforce. The question is what to do about the current illegals. Do you think the path to citizenship can't stand on it's own?
Not with me it can't. I am against amnesty. They want to be citizens go home and apply through channels. Period.
We do not need any new laws just enforce our current immigration laws, enforce the borders period. we want our laws enforced why should we give special treatment to cheats and law breakers. go back to where you came from fill out the proper forms and wait in line with the rest of the immigrants that are seeking to come here.
What you advocate is changing nothing. Just tell the INS and Boarder Patrol to do a better job. That does not solve the problem. We can continue to do the same thing and the results will be same.Not with me it can't. I am against amnesty. They want to be citizens go home and apply through channels. Period.
We do not need any new laws just enforce our current immigration laws, enforce the borders period. we want our laws enforced why should we give special treatment to cheats and law breakers. go back to where you came from fill out the proper forms and wait in line with the rest of the immigrants that are seeking to come here.
We should:
Stop the hiring of illegals
Improve boarder security
Imprison and deport those that commit crimes other than crossing the boarder
Absorb the remainder
That will work.
The border has to be sealed and there is nothing preventing BO from doing that. How come he will not do it?
There was a gun battle down there only 12 miles from the border. Something like 12 or more killed and wounded. Something is wrong when our leaders will not protect the American people? I believe this administration is corrupt and rotten to the core. They seem to go out of their way to protect thugs and law breakers and will not enforce laws that are on the books to protect the American people.
Agreed, however sealing the borders is not that easy. The US Mexico border has the busiest border crossings in world. Every year about half million vehicles cross into the US. All but a very small fraction are completely legal. Add to that pedestrian, air, and boat traffic coupled with two thousand miles of border make sealing the border a huge undertaking.What you advocate is changing nothing. Just tell the INS and Boarder Patrol to do a better job. That does not solve the problem. We can continue to do the same thing and the results will be same.We do not need any new laws just enforce our current immigration laws, enforce the borders period. we want our laws enforced why should we give special treatment to cheats and law breakers. go back to where you came from fill out the proper forms and wait in line with the rest of the immigrants that are seeking to come here.
We should:
Stop the hiring of illegals
Improve boarder security
Imprison and deport those that commit crimes other than crossing the boarder
Absorb the remainder
That will work.
By punishing businesses severely for breaking the law: imprisonment of managers and owners who knowingly violate the law and the confiscation of their corporate assets.
Seal the border.
Deport the criminals (crossing the border is not a crime, despite AZ law), and absorb the rest.
Nothing else will work.
