Are you happy to know you will die?

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Are you happy to know you will die?

Death or the fact that we die seems to be good news to Christians.

It is said that Adam’s sin brought death to earth and that the wages of sin is death.

Christians also sing that Adam's sin was a happy fault and necessary to god's plan.

This indicates that part of god’s plan and desire is that all people should die. God’s plan cannot be derailed., if god is real.

Do you think god’s plan working? If it is working as god wishes, which must be so if there is a powerful god, and if death is good for us, does the thought of dying make you happy?

If the notion of death makes you unhappy, then why sing of sin, --- and by inference, death, --- as being a happy fault and necessary to god’s plan?

Another issue on the death, specifically the death of Jesus springs to mind.

If Jesus was not a sinner, how could he have died?

Regards
DL
 
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Read the Bible to try to understand it in its cultural and historical context.

Of course to the Hebrew writers, death was a biological phenomenon, but it was also spiritual. In fact, life in the Spirit seemed more meaningful to the ancients than life in the flesh did. Fellowship with God was their raison d'être, their purpose for life in the flesh. “It is the Spirit who gives life,” Jesus said. “The flesh is no help at all.” (Jn 6:63).

Death was condemnation, or separation from God. The Hebrews considered idolatry their great sin. It separated them from the living God. Idolatry was death, as the Scriptures allude to frequently. Paul tells us, for example, that before the Cross his Jewish contemporaries were dead in their trespasses and sins (Eph 2:1). While death in the minds of the Israelites was condemnation, belief led to life. “The soul who sins shall die.” (Ez 18:20) This is precisely what Paul says to the Roman Christians, that “as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men.” (5:18) Christ’s obedience restored life to humankind. Paul says further that sin (through the law) killed him (7:11). Sin is spiritual death. Obviously, Paul was not physically dead when he wrote this; dead people don’t write correspondences. In his Gospel, the Apostle John says the same thing about life and death:

But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name. (Jn 20:31)​

The people whom John is addressing are already alive physically; dead people don’t read manuscripts. They’re just not alive spiritually.

It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all
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Eternity is very long, especially toward the end. -Woody Allen

The difference between sex and death is that with death you can do it alone and no one is going to make fun of you. -Woody Allen

I am not afraid of death, I just don't want to be there when it happens. -Woody Allen
 
Read the Bible to try to understand it in its cultural and historical context.

Of course to the Hebrew writers, death was a biological phenomenon, but it was also spiritual. In fact, life in the Spirit seemed more meaningful to the ancients than life in the flesh did. Fellowship with God was their raison d'être, their purpose for life in the flesh. “It is the Spirit who gives life,” Jesus said. “The flesh is no help at all.” (Jn 6:63).

Death was condemnation, or separation from God. The Hebrews considered idolatry their great sin. It separated them from the living God. Idolatry was death, as the Scriptures allude to frequently. Paul tells us, for example, that before the Cross his Jewish contemporaries were dead in their trespasses and sins (Eph 2:1). While death in the minds of the Israelites was condemnation, belief led to life. “The soul who sins shall die.” (Ez 18:20) This is precisely what Paul says to the Roman Christians, that “as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men.” (5:18) Christ’s obedience restored life to humankind. Paul says further that sin (through the law) killed him (7:11). Sin is spiritual death. Obviously, Paul was not physically dead when he wrote this; dead people don’t write correspondences. In his Gospel, the Apostle John says the same thing about life and death:

But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name. (Jn 20:31)​

The people whom John is addressing are already alive physically; dead people don’t read manuscripts. They’re just not alive spiritually.

It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all
.

What can I say to such garbage. I Know.

I hope you can see how intelligent the ancients were as compared to the mental trash that modern preachers and theists are using with the literal reading of myths.

What is God?

Further.
Bill Moyers Journal . Watch & Listen | PBS

Rabbi Hillel, the older contemporary of Jesus, said that when asked to sum up the whole of Jewish teaching, while he stood on one leg, said, "The Golden Rule. That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the Torah. And everything else is only commentary. Now, go and study it."

Please listen as to what is said about the literal reading of myths.

"Origen, the great second or third century Greek commentator on the Bible said that it is absolutely impossible to take these texts literally. You simply cannot do so. And he said, "God has put these sort of conundrums and paradoxes in so that we are forced to seek a deeper meaning."

Matt 7;12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

This is how early Gnostic Christians view the transition from reading myths properly to destructive literal reading and idol worship.



Regards
DL
 
Read the Bible to try to understand it in its cultural and historical context.

Of course to the Hebrew writers, death was a biological phenomenon, but it was also spiritual. In fact, life in the Spirit seemed more meaningful to the ancients than life in the flesh did. Fellowship with God was their raison d'être, their purpose for life in the flesh. “It is the Spirit who gives life,” Jesus said. “The flesh is no help at all.” (Jn 6:63).

Death was condemnation, or separation from God. The Hebrews considered idolatry their great sin. It separated them from the living God. Idolatry was death, as the Scriptures allude to frequently. Paul tells us, for example, that before the Cross his Jewish contemporaries were dead in their trespasses and sins (Eph 2:1). While death in the minds of the Israelites was condemnation, belief led to life. “The soul who sins shall die.” (Ez 18:20) This is precisely what Paul says to the Roman Christians, that “as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men.” (5:18) Christ’s obedience restored life to humankind. Paul says further that sin (through the law) killed him (7:11). Sin is spiritual death. Obviously, Paul was not physically dead when he wrote this; dead people don’t write correspondences. In his Gospel, the Apostle John says the same thing about life and death:

But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name. (Jn 20:31)​

The people whom John is addressing are already alive physically; dead people don’t read manuscripts. They’re just not alive spiritually.

It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all
.

What can I say to such garbage. I Know.

I hope you can see how intelligent the ancients were as compared to the mental trash that modern preachers and theists are using with the literal reading of myths.

What is God?

Further.
Bill Moyers Journal . Watch & Listen | PBS

Rabbi Hillel, the older contemporary of Jesus, said that when asked to sum up the whole of Jewish teaching, while he stood on one leg, said, "The Golden Rule. That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the Torah. And everything else is only commentary. Now, go and study it."

Please listen as to what is said about the literal reading of myths.

"Origen, the great second or third century Greek commentator on the Bible said that it is absolutely impossible to take these texts literally. You simply cannot do so. And he said, "God has put these sort of conundrums and paradoxes in so that we are forced to seek a deeper meaning."

Matt 7;12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

This is how early Gnostic Christians view the transition from reading myths properly to destructive literal reading and idol worship.



Regards
DL

What you call garbage is scripture. I quoted plenty of scripture.

The garbage you post, on the other hand, suggests that you are not smarter than a fifth grader.
 
Are you happy to know you will die?

Death or the fact that we die seems to be good news to Christians.

It is said that Adam’s sin brought death to earth and that the wages of sin is death.

Christians also sing that Adam's sin was a happy fault and necessary to god's plan.

This indicates that part of god’s plan and desire is that all people should die. God’s plan cannot be derailed., if god is real.

Do you think god’s plan working? If it is working as god wishes, which must be so if there is a powerful god, and if death is good for us, does the thought of dying make you happy?

If the notion of death makes you unhappy, then why sing of sin, --- and by inference, death, --- as being a happy fault and necessary to god’s plan?

Another issue on the death, specifically the death of Jesus springs to mind.

If Jesus was not a sinner, how could he have died?

Regards
DL
I'm f**king thrilled. :113:
 
Are you happy to know you will die?

Death or the fact that we die seems to be good news to Christians.

It is said that Adam’s sin brought death to earth and that the wages of sin is death.

Christians also sing that Adam's sin was a happy fault and necessary to god's plan.

This indicates that part of god’s plan and desire is that all people should die. God’s plan cannot be derailed., if god is real.

Do you think god’s plan working? If it is working as god wishes, which must be so if there is a powerful god, and if death is good for us, does the thought of dying make you happy?

If the notion of death makes you unhappy, then why sing of sin, --- and by inference, death, --- as being a happy fault and necessary to god’s plan?

Another issue on the death, specifically the death of Jesus springs to mind.

If Jesus was not a sinner, how could he have died?

Regards
DL
Ironically it was the Gnostic Christians who longed for death because they believed the material world was evil.

They were a vile and reprehensible people. Maybe that’s why they darwinized themselves out of existence.
 
Are you happy to know you will die?

Death or the fact that we die seems to be good news to Christians.

It is said that Adam’s sin brought death to earth and that the wages of sin is death.

Christians also sing that Adam's sin was a happy fault and necessary to god's plan.

This indicates that part of god’s plan and desire is that all people should die. God’s plan cannot be derailed., if god is real.

Do you think god’s plan working? If it is working as god wishes, which must be so if there is a powerful god, and if death is good for us, does the thought of dying make you happy?

If the notion of death makes you unhappy, then why sing of sin, --- and by inference, death, --- as being a happy fault and necessary to god’s plan?

Another issue on the death, specifically the death of Jesus springs to mind.

If Jesus was not a sinner, how could he have died?

Regards
DL

"Are you happy to know you will die?"

me, personally,.....no.

but I am very happy that SOME people die!

I'm waiting to dance on a few graves......
 
Are you happy to know you will die?

Death or the fact that we die seems to be good news to Christians.

It is said that Adam’s sin brought death to earth and that the wages of sin is death.

Christians also sing that Adam's sin was a happy fault and necessary to god's plan.

This indicates that part of god’s plan and desire is that all people should die. God’s plan cannot be derailed., if god is real.

Do you think god’s plan working? If it is working as god wishes, which must be so if there is a powerful god, and if death is good for us, does the thought of dying make you happy?

If the notion of death makes you unhappy, then why sing of sin, --- and by inference, death, --- as being a happy fault and necessary to god’s plan?

Another issue on the death, specifically the death of Jesus springs to mind.

If Jesus was not a sinner, how could he have died?

Regards
DL
Ironically it was the Gnostic Christians who longed for death because they believed the material world was evil.

They were a vile and reprehensible people. Maybe that’s why they darwinized themselves out of existence.

If not for lies, you would have nothing to say.

You are quite the pathetic person. No one loves you or liars.
That is why you have no life.

For the lurkers to know you are a liar though.

I wrote this to refute the false notion that Gnostic Christians do not like matter and reality that the inquisitors propagated to justify their many murders of my religions originators. It shows that Christians should actually hate matter and not Gnostic Christians.

The Christian reality.

1 John 2:15Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

Gen 3; 17 Thou shalt not eat of it; cursed is the ground for thy sake; in toil shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life.

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The Gnostic Christian reality.

Gnostic Christian Jesus said, "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will reign over all. [And after they have reigned they will rest.]"

"If those who attract you say, 'See, the Kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you.

If they say to you, 'It is under the earth,' then the fish of the sea will precede you.

Rather, the Kingdom of God is inside of you, and it is outside of you.

[Those who] become acquainted with [themselves] will find it; [and when you] become acquainted with yourselves, [you will understand that] it is you who are the sons of the living Father.

But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."

As you can see from that quote, if we see God's kingdom all around us and inside of us, we cannot think that the world is anything but evolving perfection. Most just don't see it and live in poverty. Let me try to make you see the world the way I do.

Here is a mind exercise. Tell me what you see when you look around. The best that can possibly be, given our past history, or an ugly and imperfect world?

Candide.
"It is demonstrable that things cannot be otherwise than as they are; for as all things have been created for some end, they must necessarily be created for the best end.”

That means that we live in the best of all possible worlds, because it is the only possible world, given all the conditions at hand and the history that got us here. That is an irrefutable statement given entropy and the anthropic principle.

Regards
DL
 
Are you happy to know you will die?

Death or the fact that we die seems to be good news to Christians.

It is said that Adam’s sin brought death to earth and that the wages of sin is death.

Christians also sing that Adam's sin was a happy fault and necessary to god's plan.

This indicates that part of god’s plan and desire is that all people should die. God’s plan cannot be derailed., if god is real.

Do you think god’s plan working? If it is working as god wishes, which must be so if there is a powerful god, and if death is good for us, does the thought of dying make you happy?

If the notion of death makes you unhappy, then why sing of sin, --- and by inference, death, --- as being a happy fault and necessary to god’s plan?

Another issue on the death, specifically the death of Jesus springs to mind.

If Jesus was not a sinner, how could he have died?

Regards
DL

"Are you happy to know you will die?"

me, personally,.....no.

but I am very happy that SOME people die!

I'm waiting to dance on a few graves......

Lets not talk of pussy grabbing presidents and pedophile protecting popes.

Do you think you would want to live eternally?

Regards
DL
 
Are you happy to know you will die?

Death or the fact that we die seems to be good news to Christians.

It is said that Adam’s sin brought death to earth and that the wages of sin is death.

Christians also sing that Adam's sin was a happy fault and necessary to god's plan.

This indicates that part of god’s plan and desire is that all people should die. God’s plan cannot be derailed., if god is real.

Do you think god’s plan working? If it is working as god wishes, which must be so if there is a powerful god, and if death is good for us, does the thought of dying make you happy?

If the notion of death makes you unhappy, then why sing of sin, --- and by inference, death, --- as being a happy fault and necessary to god’s plan?

Another issue on the death, specifically the death of Jesus springs to mind.

If Jesus was not a sinner, how could he have died?

Regards
DL

"Are you happy to know you will die?"

me, personally,.....no.

but I am very happy that SOME people die!

I'm waiting to dance on a few graves......

Lets not talk of pussy grabbing presidents and pedophile protecting popes.

Do you think you would want to live eternally?

Regards
DL


Yes.

absolutely.

Imagine the scientific wonders I would witness!

and eventually, the planets and wonders of the universe that I could see.....

sure

beats the hell out of being wormfood.
 
Are you happy to know you will die?

Death or the fact that we die seems to be good news to Christians.

It is said that Adam’s sin brought death to earth and that the wages of sin is death.

Christians also sing that Adam's sin was a happy fault and necessary to god's plan.

This indicates that part of god’s plan and desire is that all people should die. God’s plan cannot be derailed., if god is real.

Do you think god’s plan working? If it is working as god wishes, which must be so if there is a powerful god, and if death is good for us, does the thought of dying make you happy?

If the notion of death makes you unhappy, then why sing of sin, --- and by inference, death, --- as being a happy fault and necessary to god’s plan?

Another issue on the death, specifically the death of Jesus springs to mind.

If Jesus was not a sinner, how could he have died?

Regards
DL

"Are you happy to know you will die?"

me, personally,.....no.

but I am very happy that SOME people die!

I'm waiting to dance on a few graves......

Lets not talk of pussy grabbing presidents and pedophile protecting popes.

Do you think you would want to live eternally?

Regards
DL


Yes.

absolutely.

Imagine the scientific wonders I would witness!

and eventually, the planets and wonders of the universe that I could see.....

sure

beats the hell out of being wormfood.

You are more easily amused than I then as I would get fed up after visiting the 470000000000000000 planet.

All the Shangri-La writers I have read say that boredom would make all really long lived entities pray for death.

Regards
DL
 
Are you happy to know you will die?

Death or the fact that we die seems to be good news to Christians.

It is said that Adam’s sin brought death to earth and that the wages of sin is death.

Christians also sing that Adam's sin was a happy fault and necessary to god's plan.

This indicates that part of god’s plan and desire is that all people should die. God’s plan cannot be derailed., if god is real.

Do you think god’s plan working? If it is working as god wishes, which must be so if there is a powerful god, and if death is good for us, does the thought of dying make you happy?

If the notion of death makes you unhappy, then why sing of sin, --- and by inference, death, --- as being a happy fault and necessary to god’s plan?

Another issue on the death, specifically the death of Jesus springs to mind.

If Jesus was not a sinner, how could he have died?

Regards
DL

"Are you happy to know you will die?"

me, personally,.....no.

but I am very happy that SOME people die!

I'm waiting to dance on a few graves......

Lets not talk of pussy grabbing presidents and pedophile protecting popes.

Do you think you would want to live eternally?

Regards
DL


Yes.

absolutely.

Imagine the scientific wonders I would witness!

and eventually, the planets and wonders of the universe that I could see.....

sure

beats the hell out of being wormfood.

You are more easily amused than I then as I would get fed up after visiting the 470000000000000000 planet.

All the Shangri-La writers I have read say that boredom would make all really long lived entities pray for death.

Regards
DL


Ok

so i could die at 70.....seeing only a very little of my own planet.....

or

I could live hundreds, thousands of years....see lots of neat stuff.....and then have myself terminated....

or die trying....
 
It makes dealing with the occasional pain easier when one recalls that sooner or later the pain will end. Either by the cause being "fixed" or by dying. Either way it stops.

This generally breaks the hearts of liberals who, at their core, are masochistic.
 
Are you happy to know you will die?

Death or the fact that we die seems to be good news to Christians.

It is said that Adam’s sin brought death to earth and that the wages of sin is death.

Christians also sing that Adam's sin was a happy fault and necessary to god's plan.

This indicates that part of god’s plan and desire is that all people should die. God’s plan cannot be derailed., if god is real.

Do you think god’s plan working? If it is working as god wishes, which must be so if there is a powerful god, and if death is good for us, does the thought of dying make you happy?

If the notion of death makes you unhappy, then why sing of sin, --- and by inference, death, --- as being a happy fault and necessary to god’s plan?

Another issue on the death, specifically the death of Jesus springs to mind.

If Jesus was not a sinner, how could he have died?

Regards
DL

"Are you happy to know you will die?"

me, personally,.....no.

but I am very happy that SOME people die!

I'm waiting to dance on a few graves......

Lets not talk of pussy grabbing presidents and pedophile protecting popes.

Do you think you would want to live eternally?

Regards
DL


Yes.

absolutely.

Imagine the scientific wonders I would witness!

and eventually, the planets and wonders of the universe that I could see.....

sure

beats the hell out of being wormfood.

You are more easily amused than I then as I would get fed up after visiting the 470000000000000000 planet.

All the Shangri-La writers I have read say that boredom would make all really long lived entities pray for death.

Regards
DL


Ok

so i could die at 70.....seeing only a very little of my own planet.....

or

I could live hundreds, thousands of years....see lots of neat stuff.....and then have myself terminated....

or die trying....

If you are an eternal being then death is impossible. Insanity might catch up to you though.

Regards
DL
 
It makes dealing with the occasional pain easier when one recalls that sooner or later the pain will end. Either by the cause being "fixed" or by dying. Either way it stops.

This generally breaks the hearts of liberals who, at their core, are masochistic.

Thanks for all but your last idiocy.

Whatever liberals are, they are not so immoral as to elect a pussy grabber for president and a pedophile protecting pope.

Regards
DL
 

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