Are people basically good?

Discussion in 'Religion and Ethics' started by Votto, Aug 14, 2018.

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Are people basically good?

  1. yes

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  2. no

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  3. I'm too incapable of rational thought to give a yes or no.

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  1. OldLady
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    That's so not true. I have never heard of those things before and I am not mocking you. Yes, we disagree on that fundamental good thing, but that doesn't mean I'm not curious.
    But if you don't want to bother explaining it, that's fine with me too.
     
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    Ok, do you believe that evolution is when something moves from a less advanced state to a more advanced state?
     
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    The day that Adam and Eve recognized that they were naked and covered themselves is akin to a child getting caught with his or her hand in the cookie jar and lying about it.. Innocence lost. And so the not so good side shows up.

    So NO, people are not basically good. People are generally bad. If people were basically good why is there so damned much suffering in the world, so many people being murdered, so many people harming children???. And lets not place the blame on God, it is people that is the source of all the suffering around the world.
     
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    Try seeing the whole picture. You have to look at the good and the bad. Surely you don’t believe it is all bad, right?
     
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    Fuck are you dense, I mean I understand why you won’t answer, because you have nothing.
     
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    Yes, except for conservatives.
     
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    We are all in need of a Savior. Yes we are all bad, we have to work at being good. We have to teach our kids to be good. I have never had to teach my kid to be bad. That comes naturally
     
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    What does Genesis say God said after every step of Creation?

    And he saw that it was good.

    Evil is not extant. It only exists as the absence of good.
     
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    The poll doesn't have enough options. As C.S Lewis has written, we have two things inside of us. One is our human nature, which is typically selfish and not good. But then there's another thing, our conscience, or a knowledge of an objective standard of right and wrong. If people go by the latter, then their actions will be good. But that doesn't always happen. Also, I think it's possible for a person to mess up or destroy their conscience, to the point where it doesn't function at all.
     
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    But I have answered you. Dozens of times. You keep repeating the same questions.

    And you are calling me dense?
     

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