Are My Neighbors Spying on Me?

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Does anyone have any experience, positive or negative with Ring's Neighborhood app or something similar?

We may not know our neighbors very well, but video cameras and social platforms can reveal a lot more than any of us suspect.

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Credit...Trisha Krauss

By Ronda Kaysen

I don’t know many of my neighbors, but I can tell you a lot about what’s happening on their doorsteps.

Here’s a sampling of some recent events, viewed through the grainy footage of other people’s security cameras: An enterprising squirrel lay waste to a pumpkin; a man in a red plaid shirt shamelessly raked leaves into his neighbor’s driveway; and, around my bedtime one recent night, a teenager rang someone’s doorbell and ran off.

I watched all this happen in 30-second loops, from video uploaded to Neighbors, the app for Ring, a brand of motion-detection cameras and video doorbells owned by Amazon. You don’t need to own a Ring to join Neighbors. Just enter your address and there you have it, a map of a five-mile radius of your home, littered with tags like “suspicious,” “crime,” and “unknown visitor.” Click on one and you get a fish-eye view from the porch, garage or second-floor window posted by someone who felt like sharing.

The footage, posted anonymously, is invariably accompanied by a headline and caption. “Ring and run” read the one of a teenager in a hoodie bounding down the front steps of a house after ringing the doorbell. “Hey kid, you’re trespassing and it’s 10 p.m. Isn’t it past your bedtime?”
“Because we do so much of our communication on our devices, we may have lost a bit of our skill and our comfort of communicating in person,” said Bella DePaulo, the author of “How We Live Now.”

So instead, we upload videos and then commiserate virtually about porch pirates, potential porch pirates or a delivery man lingering too long on the doorstep. Cameras often catch what’s happening on the sidewalk or on a neighboring property, too. So your neighbors may never say hello, but they can film you taking out the trash, walking the dog, or shamelessly neglecting to scoop the poop, and then share it.

There’s a risk to all the peeping and posting. “If you have a society where everyone knows they’re spying on one another, you could undercut social capital in the neighborhood,” said Jay Van Bavel, the director of the Social Perception and Evaluation Lab at New York University.

I installed some of these apps a few weeks ago, curious to see what my neighborhood looked like from this vantage. Every few hours, my phone rattled with alerts, telling me about attempted car thefts, police chasing suspects and someone needing a bathroom contractor.

Scott Sokol, 34, who lives in Montclair, N.J., with his wife and two young daughters, bought a Ring doorbell over the summer when Amazon was selling them at a discount. Thanks to the video doorbell, he now gets alerts on his phone when the nanny arrives home with the children, making him feel more comfortable leaving the children while he’s at work.

But he finds the Neighbors app baffling. “It’s an odd collection of information,” he said. “Most of the time I get a Neighbors alert, it’s something in a neighboring town or three miles away — somebody’s car door was opened in Cedar Grove — it’s irritating.”

Ring insists it tries to keep Neighbors alerts to a minimum. “Our app is meant to be low frequency, high relevancy,” said Che’von Lewis, a Ring spokeswoman.

Regardless, the apps are popular. As of Wednesday, Nextdoor was the fourth most popular free app in the Apple App Store’s news category, and Citizen ranked sixth. Neighbors ranked 38th in the social networking category. There’s enough material to go around that the Twitter account @bestofnextdoor has gained almost 300,000 followers sharing particularly absurd postings, like one warning neighbors to be wary of teenage trick-or-treaters who may actually be criminals posing as children.

All this data also may paint a skewed picture of the areas where we live. Across the U.S., crime is falling. In 2018, property crime dropped 6.3 percent from the previous year, and almost 28 percent from 2009, according to the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Yet log into Citizen or Neighbors and you might think you were in the middle of a crime wave.

“We need to learn how to be data literate and we’re not,” said Pamela Rutledge, a media psychologist at Fielding Graduate University in Santa Barbara, Calif., and director of the Media Psychology Research Center, a nonprofit organization. “We need to know what we’re looking at and know what it means.”

We may not be data literate, but our thirst for data seems boundless.

Now, for $2,000 a year, a concerned homeowner can buy a service from a company that will affix a camera to a pole and angle it toward the street to capture pictures of the license plates on every car across two lanes of traffic up to 100 feet away. Two cameras, one positioned at either end of the block, could capture all the cars coming and going down a street. The company, Flock Safety, can view or access the footage with the homeowners’ consent. Flock cameras are in 400 cities in 36 states, and half of its customers are civic associations.

The idea behind the camera: If someone steals a bike or breaks into a house, police can review the footage looking for any suspicious vehicles. While Ring has partnered with 405 law enforcement agencies around the country, potentially providing them access to homeowners’ video feeds, Flock alerts authorities if a camera spots a vehicle with a license plate in the FBI’s National Crime Information Center database.

“Is this a surveillance state? We don’t think that it is,” said Garrett Langley, chief executive of Flock Safety.

At some point, you have to wonder how many cameras we actually need, and how much of the footage is worth watching. Robin Guarino, who has lived in her house in West Orange, N.J., for 20 years, doesn’t mind that many of her neighbors installed video doorbells. She sees the benefit — a camera might deter a porch pirate.

But recently a couple moved into a house on the corner and affixed small cameras to the side of their porch, facing out onto the street. That got her attention.

“It’s a little bit creepy,” she said. “What are they going to capture? Nothing goes on in this neighborhood.”​

Are My Neighbors Spying on Me?
 
My guess is, you're not doing anything interesting enough to be spied upon. Maybe if you spiced up your sex life?

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You never wondered why people taped up their web cams (built in) like years ago
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Of course my neighbors are spying. It's the Mom Club. Soccer moms that have nothing to do but spy and post on the Mom Club facebook page. They will track a stranger from door to door until he's gone. They know everything.
 
Is there a piece of tape over the video camera on the front of your computer monitor? ... ha ha, made you look ...

LMFAO OMFG THAT IS TO G.D. HYSTERICAL!!! Literally rofl.
 

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That's one good thing about picking out a great spot out in the middle of the boonies and plopping a house down in the middle of it. There's a lot of distance between us and any neighbor.

When we got here, I was uncertain and anxious. I wasn't sure we were up to clearing land, making driveways, having a well dug... But we got er done and did fine. 'Cept that driveway. That thing is a spine bruiser.

Now I love it so much here. I'll never live in a town/city of any size now.
 
Is there a piece of tape over the video camera on the front of your computer monitor? ... ha ha, made you look ...
I didnt have to look.

I put a fresh piece on it every Monday at noon while the satelites arent over head.

:D
 
I bet Alexis is listening to things you don't consider.

Like the bean soup music after dinner.

Or making the sign of the two headed anaconda.
 
Does anyone have any experience, positive or negative with Ring's Neighborhood app or something similar? We may not know our neighbors very well, but video cameras and social platforms can reveal a lot more than any of us suspect.


You're worried about ring video cameras? Why, if I want to, I can watch you from a mile away and tell what brand cigarettes you are smoking. ;)


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Does anyone have any experience, positive or negative with Ring's Neighborhood app or something similar? We may not know our neighbors very well, but video cameras and social platforms can reveal a lot more than any of us suspect.


You're worried about ring video cameras? Why, if I want to, I can watch you from a mile away and tell what brand cigarettes you are smoking. ;)


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Well yikes!

I've got two twenty pound dogs that'll chew your legs off!

Well, they'll pretend to try till they turn tail and run faster than a democrat after a gubbmint hand out.
 
Does anyone have any experience, positive or negative with Ring's Neighborhood app or something similar?

We may not know our neighbors very well, but video cameras and social platforms can reveal a lot more than any of us suspect.

08RightatHome-illo-articleLarge.jpg

Credit...Trisha Krauss

By Ronda Kaysen

I don’t know many of my neighbors, but I can tell you a lot about what’s happening on their doorsteps.

Here’s a sampling of some recent events, viewed through the grainy footage of other people’s security cameras: An enterprising squirrel lay waste to a pumpkin; a man in a red plaid shirt shamelessly raked leaves into his neighbor’s driveway; and, around my bedtime one recent night, a teenager rang someone’s doorbell and ran off.

I watched all this happen in 30-second loops, from video uploaded to Neighbors, the app for Ring, a brand of motion-detection cameras and video doorbells owned by Amazon. You don’t need to own a Ring to join Neighbors. Just enter your address and there you have it, a map of a five-mile radius of your home, littered with tags like “suspicious,” “crime,” and “unknown visitor.” Click on one and you get a fish-eye view from the porch, garage or second-floor window posted by someone who felt like sharing.

The footage, posted anonymously, is invariably accompanied by a headline and caption. “Ring and run” read the one of a teenager in a hoodie bounding down the front steps of a house after ringing the doorbell. “Hey kid, you’re trespassing and it’s 10 p.m. Isn’t it past your bedtime?”
“Because we do so much of our communication on our devices, we may have lost a bit of our skill and our comfort of communicating in person,” said Bella DePaulo, the author of “How We Live Now.”

So instead, we upload videos and then commiserate virtually about porch pirates, potential porch pirates or a delivery man lingering too long on the doorstep. Cameras often catch what’s happening on the sidewalk or on a neighboring property, too. So your neighbors may never say hello, but they can film you taking out the trash, walking the dog, or shamelessly neglecting to scoop the poop, and then share it.

There’s a risk to all the peeping and posting. “If you have a society where everyone knows they’re spying on one another, you could undercut social capital in the neighborhood,” said Jay Van Bavel, the director of the Social Perception and Evaluation Lab at New York University.

I installed some of these apps a few weeks ago, curious to see what my neighborhood looked like from this vantage. Every few hours, my phone rattled with alerts, telling me about attempted car thefts, police chasing suspects and someone needing a bathroom contractor.

Scott Sokol, 34, who lives in Montclair, N.J., with his wife and two young daughters, bought a Ring doorbell over the summer when Amazon was selling them at a discount. Thanks to the video doorbell, he now gets alerts on his phone when the nanny arrives home with the children, making him feel more comfortable leaving the children while he’s at work.

But he finds the Neighbors app baffling. “It’s an odd collection of information,” he said. “Most of the time I get a Neighbors alert, it’s something in a neighboring town or three miles away — somebody’s car door was opened in Cedar Grove — it’s irritating.”

Ring insists it tries to keep Neighbors alerts to a minimum. “Our app is meant to be low frequency, high relevancy,” said Che’von Lewis, a Ring spokeswoman.

Regardless, the apps are popular. As of Wednesday, Nextdoor was the fourth most popular free app in the Apple App Store’s news category, and Citizen ranked sixth. Neighbors ranked 38th in the social networking category. There’s enough material to go around that the Twitter account @bestofnextdoor has gained almost 300,000 followers sharing particularly absurd postings, like one warning neighbors to be wary of teenage trick-or-treaters who may actually be criminals posing as children.

All this data also may paint a skewed picture of the areas where we live. Across the U.S., crime is falling. In 2018, property crime dropped 6.3 percent from the previous year, and almost 28 percent from 2009, according to the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Yet log into Citizen or Neighbors and you might think you were in the middle of a crime wave.

“We need to learn how to be data literate and we’re not,” said Pamela Rutledge, a media psychologist at Fielding Graduate University in Santa Barbara, Calif., and director of the Media Psychology Research Center, a nonprofit organization. “We need to know what we’re looking at and know what it means.”

We may not be data literate, but our thirst for data seems boundless.

Now, for $2,000 a year, a concerned homeowner can buy a service from a company that will affix a camera to a pole and angle it toward the street to capture pictures of the license plates on every car across two lanes of traffic up to 100 feet away. Two cameras, one positioned at either end of the block, could capture all the cars coming and going down a street. The company, Flock Safety, can view or access the footage with the homeowners’ consent. Flock cameras are in 400 cities in 36 states, and half of its customers are civic associations.

The idea behind the camera: If someone steals a bike or breaks into a house, police can review the footage looking for any suspicious vehicles. While Ring has partnered with 405 law enforcement agencies around the country, potentially providing them access to homeowners’ video feeds, Flock alerts authorities if a camera spots a vehicle with a license plate in the FBI’s National Crime Information Center database.

“Is this a surveillance state? We don’t think that it is,” said Garrett Langley, chief executive of Flock Safety.

At some point, you have to wonder how many cameras we actually need, and how much of the footage is worth watching. Robin Guarino, who has lived in her house in West Orange, N.J., for 20 years, doesn’t mind that many of her neighbors installed video doorbells. She sees the benefit — a camera might deter a porch pirate.

But recently a couple moved into a house on the corner and affixed small cameras to the side of their porch, facing out onto the street. That got her attention.

“It’s a little bit creepy,” she said. “What are they going to capture? Nothing goes on in this neighborhood.”​

Are My Neighbors Spying on Me?

Ring doorbells, and any wifi network connected, voice activated 'convenience' device is pretty much a bug in your home. It is also prone to being hacked. Use them at your own risk.
 
Does anyone have any experience, positive or negative with Ring's Neighborhood app or something similar? We may not know our neighbors very well, but video cameras and social platforms can reveal a lot more than any of us suspect.


You're worried about ring video cameras? Why, if I want to, I can watch you from a mile away and tell what brand cigarettes you are smoking. ;)


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Not legally.
 
Does anyone have any experience, positive or negative with Ring's Neighborhood app or something similar?

Ring doorbells, and any wifi network connected, voice activated 'convenience' device is pretty much a bug in your home. It is also prone to being hacked. Use them at your own risk.
Thanks. I don't have a Ring camera myself just access to their Neighborhood app which I've monitored from time to time. I've seen some really mundane activities marked as "suspicious", while other individuals seem to be aware that they're on camera and engaged in evasive measures to keep try to keep their faces from being photographed.

My inquiry has less to do with utilizing these services for myself than it does with finding a better destination to upload the footage. I have a few law enforcement options as well as a facial recognition database which is why I was asking if anyone has any positive or negative experiences with these devices/services before I start mass streaming ny evidence files.
 

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