Are Middle Class Conservatives Crazy?

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Are Middle Class Conservatives Crazy For Supporting a Flat Tax?

  1. Yes, because it will almost certainly raise their taxes even though they're against tax increases.

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  2. No (Please specify why not in the thread)

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  1. Mustang
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    I'm serious.

    After listening to middle class conservatives accuse, and subsequently condemn, President Obama for every real or imagined policy change under the sun (like supposedly raising taxes on everyone), these same middle class conservatives are simply thrilled with Cain's 9-9-9 tax plan and Perry's flat tax plan when both of those plans virtually guarantee to raise taxes on the middle class while lowering taxes on the wealthy.

    I don't get it.
     
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    class warfare,, don't wage it.
     
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    A few are, most aren't.
     
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    No, just not envious enough of those with more than I to want to steal from them.
     
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    I'm beginning to think that perhaps we dems should just sit out one election cycle and let these guys go to town.

    Then we'd get both houses of congress back for FOUR DECADES like after the LAST time CONZ crashed the economy at the behest of their uber-wealthy leash-holders.
     
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    You rarely do.... my condolences.
     
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    How do you figure a flat tax of 20 percent is raising taxes on the middle class when the average income tax rate for middle class is 28 percent?
     
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    Feel free to explain the rationale behind conservatives embracing a change to a flat tax system when a flat income tax system will shift the tax burden away from upper income earners toward the middle class.
     
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    Bub, you wont have to sit out the next election cycle for the GOP to sweep the elections. The Dums have the worst record for governing ever. Worse than the GOP.
    Here's Nutty Nancy in 2006. Listen to her promises and ask how much of that have they achieved.
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5KC7zwdMfE]Pelosi speaks after Democrats win the House - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    unlike progressives, conservatives have an ideology that does not change to accommodate personal needs.

    We believe what we beleive...even if we feel it is not in our best interest in the short run.
    Conservcatives are willing to suffer the pain of holding true to our beliefs.

    Me? I will feel an increase. I am a top 5%er, but not top 1%er....but I know it will be good for my children, and their children.

    You see...I am willing to suffer the consequences of the actions of my generation and the actions of the politicians of my generation......

    Progressives refuse to suffer the pain...they want to kick the can down the road.
     

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