Are atheists as less-evolved species than the spiritual humans?

[ding]

From an evolutionary standpoint compatible with major religions:

One sees in nature an evolutionary hierarchy of species - those at the lower ends of the hierarchy, such as insects, are the most materialistic - having little mental or spiritual awareness at all other than physical impulses or sensations

While more-evolved species, such as mammals display higher cognitive or mental abilities - those at the highest ends, such as humans - display higher mental and spiritual concepts such as sciences, arts, music, meditation, and dance.

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If a human embraces materialistic atheism or secularism, he therefore is taking the direction of devolution rather than evolution - as his mind is devolving back in the direction of "beast", embracing base, materialistic pleasures such as sex, porn, and fast food, rather than higher, "spiritual" pleasures such as music and art.

It could be argued then, that those of spiritual enlightenment, are at a higher level of evolution than crasser, materialistic-minded atheists are, and therefore deserving of more humaneness or rights, rather than the false notion that atheists are somehow their "equal".

LOL you fairy tale believers are such a hoot!

The reality is that atheists don't believe in God because he doesn't do magical things. If you ask me, anyone who believes that the creator of existence must do magical things to exist are the ones who believe in fairy tales.

I believe in a personal God and I don't believe he is pulling strings and making things happen. You don't believe God exists because he doesn't do magical things. Why would the creator of existence need to do magical things? Please share with me your fairy tale.

The reality is that I don't believe in any god for the same reason I don't believe in unicorns or leprechauns or that the lightning is caused by a god hitting things with his hammer.

The reality is that generally I don't care what fairy tales a person believes in, until like the OP, he decides that United States needs a state mandated church, and that atheists need to be treated like rapists.

And the reality is that most fairy tale believers are not like the OP- 'thank god'- most Christians, and Jews, and Muslims, and Buddhists are decent folk- just like most Atheists are.

Do you argue against the existence of unicorns or leprechauns?

What exactly is a fairytale believer by the way?

If you were to tell me that everyone in the United States must believe in unicorns and/or leprechauns- then yes- I would mock your belief in unicorns and leprechauns.

What exactly is a fairy believer? A person who believes in fairy tales.

I don't believe anyone is telling you what you must believe. That's your fairytale.

Good thing my beliefs aren't fairytales.

 

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Atheism is a doctrine. God is truth.

Atheism is truth, god is a superstition.
Let that sink in!

I don't believe the first cause is superstition at all. Mind, rather than emerging as a late outgrowth in the evolution of life, has existed always as the matrix, the source and condition of physical reality - that the stuff of which physical reality is composed is mind-stuff. It is Mind that has composed a physical universe that breeds life, and so eventually evolves creatures that know and create.

At least that is what the laws of nature - physical, biological and moral - suggest.

The Laws of Nature suggest no such thing.

Sure they do. Nature has a preference for intelligence. Even SETI recognizes it. That's why they are searching for intelligence.

Nature doesn't have any such preference- which is why most of life is almost intelligence free.

Sure nature does. Nature has a preference for us to survive and procreate. That's why there are biological laws which program us to survive and procreate. Why do you think that is exactly?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Oddly enough many atheists are also transcendentalists in their materialism and anti-naturalism, and antipositivists; a normative hypocrisy apparently lost to most of them.

" a normative hypocrisy"

ONly if one thinks being atheist necessarily makes one non-transcendentalist. Which is subjective and arbitrary.

 

[Bezukhov]

Some news about God.

Biologists Confirm God Evolved From Chimpanzee Deity

https://www.theonion.com/biologists-confirm-god-evolved-from-chimpanzee-deity-1819576363

 

[harmonica]

no it can't be argued
what a load of crap
so creationist believe a fully formed man just ''appeared'' like a Star Trek energizer??
that's really believable

 

[Unification]

LOL you fairy tale believers are such a hoot!

The reality is that atheists don't believe in God because he doesn't do magical things. If you ask me, anyone who believes that the creator of existence must do magical things to exist are the ones who believe in fairy tales.

I believe in a personal God and I don't believe he is pulling strings and making things happen. You don't believe God exists because he doesn't do magical things. Why would the creator of existence need to do magical things? Please share with me your fairy tale.

The reality is that I don't believe in any god for the same reason I don't believe in unicorns or leprechauns or that the lightning is caused by a god hitting things with his hammer.

The reality is that generally I don't care what fairy tales a person believes in, until like the OP, he decides that United States needs a state mandated church, and that atheists need to be treated like rapists.

And the reality is that most fairy tale believers are not like the OP- 'thank god'- most Christians, and Jews, and Muslims, and Buddhists are decent folk- just like most Atheists are.

Do you argue against the existence of unicorns or leprechauns?

What exactly is a fairytale believer by the way?

If you were to tell me that everyone in the United States must believe in unicorns and/or leprechauns- then yes- I would mock your belief in unicorns and leprechauns.

What exactly is a fairy believer? A person who believes in fairy tales.

I don't believe anyone is telling you what you must believe. That's your fairytale.

Good thing my beliefs aren't fairytales.

If you neglect to acknowledge the cosmic reality of one God, then yes all you believe in are fairy tales, much like those of the less-evolved pagan religions of Zeus, Thor and otherwise. So nothing but extinction and suffering awaits you.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The reality is that atheists don't believe in God because he doesn't do magical things. If you ask me, anyone who believes that the creator of existence must do magical things to exist are the ones who believe in fairy tales.

I believe in a personal God and I don't believe he is pulling strings and making things happen. You don't believe God exists because he doesn't do magical things. Why would the creator of existence need to do magical things? Please share with me your fairy tale.

The reality is that I don't believe in any god for the same reason I don't believe in unicorns or leprechauns or that the lightning is caused by a god hitting things with his hammer.

The reality is that generally I don't care what fairy tales a person believes in, until like the OP, he decides that United States needs a state mandated church, and that atheists need to be treated like rapists.

And the reality is that most fairy tale believers are not like the OP- 'thank god'- most Christians, and Jews, and Muslims, and Buddhists are decent folk- just like most Atheists are.

Do you argue against the existence of unicorns or leprechauns?

What exactly is a fairytale believer by the way?

If you were to tell me that everyone in the United States must believe in unicorns and/or leprechauns- then yes- I would mock your belief in unicorns and leprechauns.

What exactly is a fairy believer? A person who believes in fairy tales.

I don't believe anyone is telling you what you must believe. That's your fairytale.

Good thing my beliefs aren't fairytales.

If you neglect to acknowledge the cosmic reality of one God, then yes all you believe in are fairy tales, much like those of the less-evolved pagan religions of Zeus, Thor and otherwise. So nothing but extinction and suffering awaits you.

Well that's absurd...get your goofy voodoo out of here, shaman....

 

[deanrd]

From an evolutionary standpoint compatible with major religions:

One sees in nature an evolutionary hierarchy of species - those at the lower ends of the hierarchy, such as insects, are the most materialistic - having little mental or spiritual awareness at all other than physical impulses or sensations

While more-evolved species, such as mammals display higher cognitive or mental abilities - those at the highest ends, such as humans - display higher mental and spiritual concepts such as sciences, arts, music, meditation, and dance.

-

If a human embraces materialistic atheism or secularism, he therefore is taking the direction of devolution rather than evolution - as his mind is devolving back in the direction of "beast", embracing base, materialistic pleasures such as sex, porn, and fast food, rather than higher, "spiritual" pleasures such as music and art.

It could be argued then, that those of spiritual enlightenment, are at a higher level of evolution than crasser, materialistic-minded atheists are, and therefore deserving of more humaneness or rights, rather than the false notion that atheists are somehow their "equal".

Less evolved or less gullible?

Only Six Percent Of Scientists Are Republicans: Pew Poll

 

[Unification]

From an evolutionary standpoint compatible with major religions:

One sees in nature an evolutionary hierarchy of species - those at the lower ends of the hierarchy, such as insects, are the most materialistic - having little mental or spiritual awareness at all other than physical impulses or sensations

While more-evolved species, such as mammals display higher cognitive or mental abilities - those at the highest ends, such as humans - display higher mental and spiritual concepts such as sciences, arts, music, meditation, and dance.

-

If a human embraces materialistic atheism or secularism, he therefore is taking the direction of devolution rather than evolution - as his mind is devolving back in the direction of "beast", embracing base, materialistic pleasures such as sex, porn, and fast food, rather than higher, "spiritual" pleasures such as music and art.

It could be argued then, that those of spiritual enlightenment, are at a higher level of evolution than crasser, materialistic-minded atheists are, and therefore deserving of more humaneness or rights, rather than the false notion that atheists are somehow their "equal".

Less evolved or less gullible?

Only Six Percent Of Scientists Are Republicans: Pew Poll

That be nonsequiter, since many Republicans in United States of Rome are non-spiritual, and promote degenerate secular ideologies of consumerist capitalism anyway, they merely sophists like those who helped lead to fall of Rome, so I not trust Republican or Democrat party, or those seem to be spiritually blind.

 

[sealybobo]

From an evolutionary standpoint compatible with major religions:

One sees in nature an evolutionary hierarchy of species - those at the lower ends of the hierarchy, such as insects, are the most materialistic - having little mental or spiritual awareness at all other than physical impulses or sensations

While more-evolved species, such as mammals display higher cognitive or mental abilities - those at the highest ends, such as humans - display higher mental and spiritual concepts such as sciences, arts, music, meditation, and dance.

-

If a human embraces materialistic atheism or secularism, he therefore is taking the direction of devolution rather than evolution - as his mind is devolving back in the direction of "beast", embracing base, materialistic pleasures such as sex, porn, and fast food, rather than higher, "spiritual" pleasures such as music and art.

It could be argued then, that those of spiritual enlightenment, are at a higher level of evolution than crasser, materialistic-minded atheists are, and therefore deserving of more humaneness or rights, rather than the false notion that atheists are somehow their "equal".

Who killed our last thread? Was it unkotare? I bet it was.

I’m Gay and Christian–and Oh Yea, I’m HIV Positive, Too

 

[sealybobo]

From an evolutionary standpoint compatible with major religions:

One sees in nature an evolutionary hierarchy of species - those at the lower ends of the hierarchy, such as insects, are the most materialistic - having little mental or spiritual awareness at all other than physical impulses or sensations

While more-evolved species, such as mammals display higher cognitive or mental abilities - those at the highest ends, such as humans - display higher mental and spiritual concepts such as sciences, arts, music, meditation, and dance.

-

If a human embraces materialistic atheism or secularism, he therefore is taking the direction of devolution rather than evolution - as his mind is devolving back in the direction of "beast", embracing base, materialistic pleasures such as sex, porn, and fast food, rather than higher, "spiritual" pleasures such as music and art.

It could be argued then, that those of spiritual enlightenment, are at a higher level of evolution than crasser, materialistic-minded atheists are, and therefore deserving of more humaneness or rights, rather than the false notion that atheists are somehow their "equal".

Less evolved or less gullible?

Only Six Percent Of Scientists Are Republicans: Pew Poll

That be nonsequiter, since many Republicans in United States of Rome are non-spiritual, and promote degenerate secular ideologies of consumerist capitalism anyway, they merely sophists like those who helped lead to fall of Rome, so I not trust Republican or Democrat party, or those seem to be spiritually blind.

You mean Christians in America aren't doing it right? I told them!!!

How about in the UK?

Films open up the lives of Christians affected by HIV

 

[Unification]

From an evolutionary standpoint compatible with major religions:

One sees in nature an evolutionary hierarchy of species - those at the lower ends of the hierarchy, such as insects, are the most materialistic - having little mental or spiritual awareness at all other than physical impulses or sensations

While more-evolved species, such as mammals display higher cognitive or mental abilities - those at the highest ends, such as humans - display higher mental and spiritual concepts such as sciences, arts, music, meditation, and dance.

-

If a human embraces materialistic atheism or secularism, he therefore is taking the direction of devolution rather than evolution - as his mind is devolving back in the direction of "beast", embracing base, materialistic pleasures such as sex, porn, and fast food, rather than higher, "spiritual" pleasures such as music and art.

It could be argued then, that those of spiritual enlightenment, are at a higher level of evolution than crasser, materialistic-minded atheists are, and therefore deserving of more humaneness or rights, rather than the false notion that atheists are somehow their "equal".

Who killed our last thread? Was it unkotare? I bet it was.

I’m Gay and Christian–and Oh Yea, I’m HIV Positive, Too

Gay lifestyle is anti-thetical to Judeo-Christian values, so if he choose to engage in sodomy and spread STD then that be act of evil.

 

[sealybobo]

From an evolutionary standpoint compatible with major religions:

One sees in nature an evolutionary hierarchy of species - those at the lower ends of the hierarchy, such as insects, are the most materialistic - having little mental or spiritual awareness at all other than physical impulses or sensations

While more-evolved species, such as mammals display higher cognitive or mental abilities - those at the highest ends, such as humans - display higher mental and spiritual concepts such as sciences, arts, music, meditation, and dance.

-

If a human embraces materialistic atheism or secularism, he therefore is taking the direction of devolution rather than evolution - as his mind is devolving back in the direction of "beast", embracing base, materialistic pleasures such as sex, porn, and fast food, rather than higher, "spiritual" pleasures such as music and art.

It could be argued then, that those of spiritual enlightenment, are at a higher level of evolution than crasser, materialistic-minded atheists are, and therefore deserving of more humaneness or rights, rather than the false notion that atheists are somehow their "equal".

Who killed our last thread? Was it unkotare? I bet it was.

I’m Gay and Christian–and Oh Yea, I’m HIV Positive, Too

Gay lifestyle is anti-thetical to Judeo-Christian values, so if he choose to engage in sodomy and spread STD then that be act of evil.

The devil doesn't exist.

Florida State House Candidate Admits She Faked College Diploma | HuffPost

Look at this Christian Republican who lied about having a college degree. Christians lie, cheat, steal, murder, rape, molest and commit adultry all the time. You're just a cult.

 

[Unification]

From an evolutionary standpoint compatible with major religions:

One sees in nature an evolutionary hierarchy of species - those at the lower ends of the hierarchy, such as insects, are the most materialistic - having little mental or spiritual awareness at all other than physical impulses or sensations

While more-evolved species, such as mammals display higher cognitive or mental abilities - those at the highest ends, such as humans - display higher mental and spiritual concepts such as sciences, arts, music, meditation, and dance.

-

If a human embraces materialistic atheism or secularism, he therefore is taking the direction of devolution rather than evolution - as his mind is devolving back in the direction of "beast", embracing base, materialistic pleasures such as sex, porn, and fast food, rather than higher, "spiritual" pleasures such as music and art.

It could be argued then, that those of spiritual enlightenment, are at a higher level of evolution than crasser, materialistic-minded atheists are, and therefore deserving of more humaneness or rights, rather than the false notion that atheists are somehow their "equal".

Who killed our last thread? Was it unkotare? I bet it was.

I’m Gay and Christian–and Oh Yea, I’m HIV Positive, Too

Gay lifestyle is anti-thetical to Judeo-Christian values, so if he choose to engage in sodomy and spread STD then that be act of evil.

The devil doesn't exist.

Florida State House Candidate Admits She Faked College Diploma | HuffPost

Look at this Christian Republican who lied about having a college degree. Christians lie, cheat, steal, murder, rape, molest and commit adultry all the time. You're just a cult.

He be false or bad Christian, what is your point?

 

[Unification]

I explain what nature of devil is in Judeo Christian faith, and how purpose of devil is to encourage disease, purpose of God is to prevent people from disease, so you choose to be ignorant.

 

[sealybobo]

From an evolutionary standpoint compatible with major religions:

One sees in nature an evolutionary hierarchy of species - those at the lower ends of the hierarchy, such as insects, are the most materialistic - having little mental or spiritual awareness at all other than physical impulses or sensations

While more-evolved species, such as mammals display higher cognitive or mental abilities - those at the highest ends, such as humans - display higher mental and spiritual concepts such as sciences, arts, music, meditation, and dance.

-

If a human embraces materialistic atheism or secularism, he therefore is taking the direction of devolution rather than evolution - as his mind is devolving back in the direction of "beast", embracing base, materialistic pleasures such as sex, porn, and fast food, rather than higher, "spiritual" pleasures such as music and art.

It could be argued then, that those of spiritual enlightenment, are at a higher level of evolution than crasser, materialistic-minded atheists are, and therefore deserving of more humaneness or rights, rather than the false notion that atheists are somehow their "equal".

Who killed our last thread? Was it unkotare? I bet it was.

I’m Gay and Christian–and Oh Yea, I’m HIV Positive, Too

Gay lifestyle is anti-thetical to Judeo-Christian values, so if he choose to engage in sodomy and spread STD then that be act of evil.

The devil doesn't exist.

Florida State House Candidate Admits She Faked College Diploma | HuffPost

Look at this Christian Republican who lied about having a college degree. Christians lie, cheat, steal, murder, rape, molest and commit adultry all the time. You're just a cult.

He be false or bad Christian, what is your point?

Well I be true or good atheist. Better be good atheist than bad theist.

One man working with his two hands can do a lot more than 1000 hands praying.

 

[sealybobo]

I explain what nature of devil is in Judeo Christian faith, and how purpose of devil is to encourage disease, purpose of God is to prevent people from disease, so you choose to be ignorant.

 

[Unification]

I explain what nature of devil is in Judeo Christian faith, and how purpose of devil is to encourage disease, purpose of God is to prevent people from disease, so you choose to be ignorant.

That be false equivalency - texts never say God only cares about planet earth, says god is creator of heavens (outer space and cosmos) and earth.

If alien exist in other planets, this not contradict Bible, since Bible written only for humans, but is irrelevant to humans if life exists elsewhere in universe.

Most likely, God is "center" of universe, and universe exists for glory of God, so to believe it exist for glory of man is not "Biblical", and is more akin to atheism anyway.

 

[WinterBorn]

If a human embraces materialistic atheism or secularism, he therefore is taking the direction of devolution rather than evolution - as his mind is devolving back in the direction of "beast"

Yes, I am a beast.

My argument is if one is a committed atheist, they have no reason to oppose rape or anything which any other animal does - an atheist may not choose to rape or murder himself, but he can't morally oppose it on any consistent grounds.

The famous atheist Marquis de Sade, who was a known rapist and murder himself, admitted this in his infamous writings, and by raping and murdering, he was merely practicing atheism more consistently than most so called "atheists" actually do.

So one cannot consistently be an atheist and embrace humanistic values such as "rights" - if they identify as atheist they demote themselves to status of "animal".

THis post is a perfect example of the sort of nonsense your arguments depend on. The assumption that an atheist cannot oppose acts that are universally held to be wrong, is blatantly ridiculous. To say that your religious belief is the only reason you do not rape and murder is to admit things about yourself.

Atheists are not animals. They simple do not believe in a god. They still possess a moral compass. They still work to have a peaceful life. Are there exceptions? Certainly. Just as there are Christians who rape and murder.

 

[WinterBorn]

It is hard to take you seriously about being more evolved than atheists, when you advocate forcing women to wear burkas because you find them unattractive. That is about as unevolved as it gets.