AP: Half of U.S. pays no federal income tax

[LibocalypseNow]

Yea their 9.7% Unemployment number is a big joke. 47% of the country not paying Federal Income Taxes yet they show only 9.7% of Americans out of work. What a sham.

 

[edthecynic]

Half of U.S. pays no federal income tax.

Yeah, ain't those BUSH tax cuts GREAT!!!

 

[saveliberty]

I don't either. I know many recent HS and college grads that are looking for work and I don't believe they are counted in the #s because they don't qualify for UI. Am I correct?

Goes back to your last employer with 14 weeks of employment. No prior, no checky.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Where are they going to get all the revenue for their spending spree? Looks like they'll have to squeeze the Middle Class again. Pretty sad stuff.

 

[AllieBaba]

I'm already being squeezed just about to death.
I'm taking $100 hits every other month or so for "mandatory furlough" days.
On top of not getting a raise (any raise at all) for the past two years....
And my salary is only $2585. It's not like I'm making a killing here.
Plus insurance for myself and my family.
And retirement...so I'm not complaining TOO much.
But if I have to pay taxes on that insurance, I'm going to the IRS. I'm serious. I'm beefing up my accounting right now.

 

[Ravi]

I'm already being squeezed just about to death.
I'm taking $100 hits every other month or so for "mandatory furlough" days.
On top of not getting a raise (any raise at all) for the past two years....
And my salary is only $2585. It's not like I'm making a killing here.
Plus insurance for myself and my family.
And retirement...so I'm not complaining TOO much.
But if I have to pay taxes on that insurance, I'm going to the IRS. I'm serious. I'm beefing up my accounting right now.

Why would you? You already qualify for earned income credits and get back more than you pay in.

 

[Joe Steel]

Promoting individual welfare does promote the general welfare. We can't be healthy and prosperous as a nation if we're a significant portion of us are poor and sick.

Hmmmmm... Whose word should we take on the meaning of the General Welfare clause?...yours?... or James "Father of the Constitution" Madison's?

If Congress can employ money indefinitely to the general welfare,
and are the sole and supreme judges of the general welfare,
they may take the care of religion into their own hands;
they may appoint teachers in every State, county and parish
and pay them out of their public treasury;
they may take into their own hands the education of children,
establishing in like manner schools throughout the Union;
they may assume the provision of the poor;
they may undertake the regulation of all roads other than post-roads;
in short, every thing, from the highest object of state legislation
down to the most minute object of police,
would be thrown under the power of Congress.... Were the power
of Congress to be established in the latitude contended for,
it would subvert the very foundations, and transmute the very nature
of the limited Government established by the people of America."
-- James Madison

Such a quandary.....

What's your point?

Madison's works are unconvincing. Nothing in them is an argument against the natural construction of the text.

 

[AllieBaba]

I'm already being squeezed just about to death.
I'm taking $100 hits every other month or so for "mandatory furlough" days.
On top of not getting a raise (any raise at all) for the past two years....
And my salary is only $2585. It's not like I'm making a killing here.
Plus insurance for myself and my family.
And retirement...so I'm not complaining TOO much.
But if I have to pay taxes on that insurance, I'm going to the IRS. I'm serious. I'm beefing up my accounting right now.

Why would you? You already qualify for earned income credits and get back more than you pay in.

You try living on that $6000 a year, Ravidiot.
And you don't get it if you don't work.

 

[AllieBaba]

Also please decide if you're FOR it or agin it, Ravi....on the one hand you're all about big government and paying people who don't pay taxes...

And on the other hand, you sneer at the people who benefit.

Make up your fookin mind.

 

[Ravi]

Also please decide if you're FOR it or agin it, Ravi....on the one hand you're all about big government and paying people who don't pay taxes...

And on the other hand, you sneer at the people who benefit.

Make up your fookin mind.

I sneer at you for whining about the government screwing you over while it is actually propping you up.

 

[AllieBaba]

The government doesn't prop me up, you moron. I work my ass off and don't get paid much for it.

But I'm taking steps to remedy it. I fully intend to join the IRS. The few, the proud...the anal. Alternately, I'll hire on with child welfare.

BTW, I do not claim my child care. This cuts my tax return by about $3000. Instead of picking up $9,000, I only get $6000 back in taxes.

I earn $30000, and I pay about $400 in taxes each month. Which means I pay $4800 a year.

I'm pulling in $1200 above what I pay. I could be pulling in $4200 above what I pay, but I don't do that.

So you can eat me, Ravi.

 

[edthecynic]

Half of U.S. pays no federal income tax.

Yeah, ain't those BUSH tax cuts GREAT!!!

Hey, let's make BUSH'S tax cuts PERMANENT so half the US will pay no income taxes permanently!!!

 

[AllieBaba]

Not only that, but give people who don't pay taxes, money!
To pay for it, double up on taxing people who make a living wage!
Win/win! Woo hoo!

 

[Ravi]

The government doesn't prop me up, you moron. I work my ass off and don't get paid much for it.

But I'm taking steps to remedy it. I fully intend to join the IRS. The few, the proud...the anal. Alternately, I'll hire on with child welfare.

BTW, I do not claim my child care. This cuts my tax return by about $3000. Instead of picking up $9,000, I only get $6000 back in taxes.

I earn $30000, and I pay about $400 in taxes each month. Which means I pay $4800 a year.

I'm pulling in $1200 above what I pay. I could be pulling in $4200 above what I pay, but I don't do that.

So you can eat me, Ravi.

You still are getting back more than you pay. So you eat me, you twit. Or stop whining.

 

[Murf76]

Promoting individual welfare does promote the general welfare. We can't be healthy and prosperous as a nation if we're a significant portion of us are poor and sick.

Hmmmmm... Whose word should we take on the meaning of the General Welfare clause?...yours?... or James "Father of the Constitution" Madison's?

If Congress can employ money indefinitely to the general welfare,
and are the sole and supreme judges of the general welfare,
they may take the care of religion into their own hands;
they may appoint teachers in every State, county and parish
and pay them out of their public treasury;
they may take into their own hands the education of children,
establishing in like manner schools throughout the Union;
they may assume the provision of the poor;
they may undertake the regulation of all roads other than post-roads;
in short, every thing, from the highest object of state legislation
down to the most minute object of police,
would be thrown under the power of Congress.... Were the power
of Congress to be established in the latitude contended for,
it would subvert the very foundations, and transmute the very nature
of the limited Government established by the people of America."
-- James Madison

Such a quandary.....

What's your point?

Madison's works are unconvincing. Nothing in them is an argument against the natural construction of the text.

Madison, among others, constructed the text, dope. He drafted The Virginia Plan, which served as the framework of the document. He authored The Bill of Rights. His contemporaries, not posterity, but his contemporaries... dubbed him "The Father of the Constitution".

Think about it... you are free to treat us all to verbal displays of your ignorance because James Madison provided the language which guarantees your right to do so.

Do you realize how nonsensical it is for sniveling liberals to take issue with Madison?
HE's the guy who realized the need for further empowering the central government, having come to the conclusion that The Articles of Confederation would fail by virtue of not providing enough cohesion. And Lord knows, liberals are all about MORE central government, aren't they?
Your problem is, that unlike Madison, you fuckers never know when to stop.

It's was Madison who proposed "representation in Congress according to population, support for a strong national executive, the need for checks and balances among the three branches of government, and the idea of a federal system that assigned certain powers to the national government and reserved others for the states."
Father of the Constitution | James Madison - James Madison's Montpelier... Restore Montpelier, Rediscover Madison

Seriously, man... read a book or something. Sheesh.

 

[AllieBaba]

The government doesn't prop me up, you moron. I work my ass off and don't get paid much for it.

But I'm taking steps to remedy it. I fully intend to join the IRS. The few, the proud...the anal. Alternately, I'll hire on with child welfare.

BTW, I do not claim my child care. This cuts my tax return by about $3000. Instead of picking up $9,000, I only get $6000 back in taxes.

I earn $30000, and I pay about $400 in taxes each month. Which means I pay $4800 a year.

I'm pulling in $1200 above what I pay. I could be pulling in $4200 above what I pay, but I don't do that.

So you can eat me, Ravi.

You still are getting back more than you pay. So you eat me, you twit. Or stop whining.

No, YOU eat ME.

 

[logical4u]

Conservatives: Half of US population isn't taxed enough!!!!!

Democrats: Raise the taxes so we can get more of what is theirs!!!!!!!!!

 

[logical4u]

It really doesn't make any sense--does it? Of course, not unless you're a socialist and believe in wealth redistribution--then it would make sense to you.

Of course it makes sense.

We tax high incomes because that's where the money is.

Actually they would make more money taxing the entire population at a lower level. They will not do that because people would reject any tax raises.

 

[logical4u]

Government exists to promote the general welfare.

Nonsense.

WikiAnswers - What does Promote the general welfare mean

Not nonsense.

It's in the Preamble.

General welfare (at that time) meant keeping invaders from attacking your family or property, not give aways. Today, we call that 'national securtiy'.

 

[logical4u]

Its a sad reflection on how little money 50% of Americans make.

They have a choice. They are adults. They make the same decisions every day and expect different results (???).