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Yea their 9.7% Unemployment number is a big joke. 47% of the country not paying Federal Income Taxes yet they show only 9.7% of Americans out of work. What a sham.
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Yeah, ain't those BUSH tax cuts GREAT!!!CaféAuLait;2187032 said:Half of U.S. pays no federal income tax.
I don't either. I know many recent HS and college grads that are looking for work and I don't believe they are counted in the #s because they don't qualify for UI. Am I correct?
Why would you? You already qualify for earned income credits and get back more than you pay in.I'm already being squeezed just about to death.
I'm taking $100 hits every other month or so for "mandatory furlough" days.
On top of not getting a raise (any raise at all) for the past two years....
And my salary is only $2585. It's not like I'm making a killing here.
Plus insurance for myself and my family.
And retirement...so I'm not complaining TOO much.
But if I have to pay taxes on that insurance, I'm going to the IRS. I'm serious. I'm beefing up my accounting right now.
Promoting individual welfare does promote the general welfare. We can't be healthy and prosperous as a nation if we're a significant portion of us are poor and sick.
Hmmmmm... Whose word should we take on the meaning of the General Welfare clause?...yours?... or James "Father of the Constitution" Madison's?
If Congress can employ money indefinitely to the general welfare,
and are the sole and supreme judges of the general welfare,
they may take the care of religion into their own hands;
they may appoint teachers in every State, county and parish
and pay them out of their public treasury;
they may take into their own hands the education of children,
establishing in like manner schools throughout the Union;
they may assume the provision of the poor;
they may undertake the regulation of all roads other than post-roads;
in short, every thing, from the highest object of state legislation
down to the most minute object of police,
would be thrown under the power of Congress.... Were the power
of Congress to be established in the latitude contended for,
it would subvert the very foundations, and transmute the very nature
of the limited Government established by the people of America."
-- James Madison
Such a quandary.....
Why would you? You already qualify for earned income credits and get back more than you pay in.I'm already being squeezed just about to death.
I'm taking $100 hits every other month or so for "mandatory furlough" days.
On top of not getting a raise (any raise at all) for the past two years....
And my salary is only $2585. It's not like I'm making a killing here.
Plus insurance for myself and my family.
And retirement...so I'm not complaining TOO much.
But if I have to pay taxes on that insurance, I'm going to the IRS. I'm serious. I'm beefing up my accounting right now.
I sneer at you for whining about the government screwing you over while it is actually propping you up.Also please decide if you're FOR it or agin it, Ravi....on the one hand you're all about big government and paying people who don't pay taxes...
And on the other hand, you sneer at the people who benefit.
Make up your fookin mind.
Hey, let's make BUSH'S tax cuts PERMANENT so half the US will pay no income taxes permanently!!!Yeah, ain't those BUSH tax cuts GREAT!!!CaféAuLait;2187032 said:Half of U.S. pays no federal income tax.
You still are getting back more than you pay. So you eat me, you twit. Or stop whining.The government doesn't prop me up, you moron. I work my ass off and don't get paid much for it.
But I'm taking steps to remedy it. I fully intend to join the IRS. The few, the proud...the anal. Alternately, I'll hire on with child welfare.
BTW, I do not claim my child care. This cuts my tax return by about $3000. Instead of picking up $9,000, I only get $6000 back in taxes.
I earn $30000, and I pay about $400 in taxes each month. Which means I pay $4800 a year.
I'm pulling in $1200 above what I pay. I could be pulling in $4200 above what I pay, but I don't do that.
So you can eat me, Ravi.
Promoting individual welfare does promote the general welfare. We can't be healthy and prosperous as a nation if we're a significant portion of us are poor and sick.
Hmmmmm... Whose word should we take on the meaning of the General Welfare clause?...yours?... or James "Father of the Constitution" Madison's?
If Congress can employ money indefinitely to the general welfare,
and are the sole and supreme judges of the general welfare,
they may take the care of religion into their own hands;
they may appoint teachers in every State, county and parish
and pay them out of their public treasury;
they may take into their own hands the education of children,
establishing in like manner schools throughout the Union;
they may assume the provision of the poor;
they may undertake the regulation of all roads other than post-roads;
in short, every thing, from the highest object of state legislation
down to the most minute object of police,
would be thrown under the power of Congress.... Were the power
of Congress to be established in the latitude contended for,
it would subvert the very foundations, and transmute the very nature
of the limited Government established by the people of America."
-- James Madison
Such a quandary.....
What's your point?
Madison's works are unconvincing. Nothing in them is an argument against the natural construction of the text.
You still are getting back more than you pay. So you eat me, you twit. Or stop whining.The government doesn't prop me up, you moron. I work my ass off and don't get paid much for it.
But I'm taking steps to remedy it. I fully intend to join the IRS. The few, the proud...the anal. Alternately, I'll hire on with child welfare.
BTW, I do not claim my child care. This cuts my tax return by about $3000. Instead of picking up $9,000, I only get $6000 back in taxes.
I earn $30000, and I pay about $400 in taxes each month. Which means I pay $4800 a year.
I'm pulling in $1200 above what I pay. I could be pulling in $4200 above what I pay, but I don't do that.
So you can eat me, Ravi.
Conservatives: Half of US population isn't taxed enough!!!!!
It really doesn't make any sense--does it? Of course, not unless you're a socialist and believe in wealth redistribution--then it would make sense to you.
Of course it makes sense.
We tax high incomes because that's where the money is.
Nonsense.Government exists to promote the general welfare.
WikiAnswers - What does Promote the general welfare mean
Not nonsense.
It's in the Preamble.
Its a sad reflection on how little money 50% of Americans make.