AOC's ‘forced pregnancy' nonsense

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For reasons that will become obvious, I will intersperse my commentary on the author's article and related matters as I review the author's sometimes hilariously satirical observations in the order they're presented.

Opinion by Katelynn Richardson​
“Forced pregnancy is a crime against humanity,” Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) wrote on Twitter on Sunday.​

As many in the comments were quick to agree, yes, rape is a crime. Seeing through Ocasio-Cortez’s ridiculous statement, commenters noted that the killing of innocent unborn children is also a crime.​

Interjection: :auiqs.jpg:oh, well, Alexandria Ol' Crazy-Eyes-Cortez is not the sharpest tool in the shed.

“Forced pregnancy,” like the equally absurd phrase “pro-forced birth,” is another way to suggest those who desire to protect unborn life have malicious intent. Yet, in the majority of situations leading to abortion, there are ways to avoid pregnancy, as some abortion advocates apparently just discovered. Women who oppose the Dobbs decision have kindled a renewed passion for one time-tested method of preventing pregnancy: abstinence. The word was even trending on Twitter on Saturday.​

“Because SCOTUS overturned Roe V. Wade, we cannot take the risk of an unintended pregnancy, therefore, we will not have sex with any man–including our husbands–unless we are trying to become pregnant,” a #SexStrike pledge circulating on Twitter says:​
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Interjection: hence, the time-tested method that supposedly doesn't work. Zoom Right over their heads! :auiqs.jpg:

The hilarious attempt to outwit conservatives by adopting conservative ethics aside, other narratives that cast pregnancy in a negative light are far more disturbing. Media headlines grappling with the overturn of Roe v. Wade emphasize the health consequences of pregnancy, leaving many women sincerely frightened that their lives are in danger without abortion.​
Those deriding abortion bans falsely claim treatments necessary to save the mother, such as in cases of ectopic pregnancies and miscarriages, will be prohibited. In doing so, they ignore the definition of an abortion: the intentional killing of an innocent human life. Ectopic pregnancies, which occur when an embryo implants outside the uterus where it cannot survive, can truly be fatal to the mother. The goal in treating them is not taking a life. It is to save the life of the mother when there is no way to save the baby. It’s not an abortion, and it’s not prohibited.​

Interjection: here I must disagree with the author who is unwittingly conflating killing and murder. Actually, a very early chemical termination of a pregnancy, whether it be normal or ectopic, is an abortion entailing the killing of a developing human life in the zygotic stage of gestation. The developing life is being killed. It cannot come to term and would kill the mother if not terminated and dissolved. In this instance, abortion is a legitimate medical procedure. Of course, the ultimate takeaway here is that such medical abortions would not be prohibited, but we should not use euphemistic terms to describe what they are as if what they are necessarily something nefarious. Intentionally killing a human life that cannot come to term in the first place is simply not the same thing as intentionally killing a human life that can for the sake of some expediency. The former is an ethical medical abortion; the latter is not.

Treatment for women who have experienced miscarriages is likewise not in jeopardy, even when treatments use similar techniques as abortions, like a dilation and suction procedure or medication. Treating a pregnancy loss is, again, far different from inducing an abortion. Even in cases in which the pregnancy poses a threat, it does not necessitate abortion. Leading OB/GYNs acknowledge that separating the mother and fetus can be done without intentionally seeking to kill the child.​

Interjection: Indeed! And this goes to the arguably biggest lie of the proabortion agenda, regarding the supposedly vaguely defined exceptions in abortion prohibitions relative to the life of the mother and the supposed confusion over proper medical care. See my refutation here:


To be fair to Coyote, yes, there are immediately and hopelessly fatal and crippling congenital diseases that unborn babies can have, but these too are very rare. Moreover, they are known, and there's absolutely no reason prohibitions cannot make definitive exceptions accordingly.

“Certainly we're not about forcing women to be pregnant,” Dr. Christina Francis, board member of the American Association of Pro-Life Obstetricians and Gynecologists, said in an NPR interview. “But, you know, once they are pregnant and there's another human life at stake there, then our job as physicians is to provide excellent care to both of those patients.”​
Supposed health threats extend beyond these difficult scenarios to include inconveniences to the mother. Horrifyingly, some categorize “fetal anomalies” — the risk of a baby having a genetic condition — as an emotional health risk to the mother. CNN commentator Ana Navarro-Cardenas cited this reason on-air Friday, using her own brother with special needs as an example.​
Another article in Scientific American lists changes to the woman’s body as a potential risk to continuing pregnancy.​
“All of an expecting mother’s organs and bodily systems are put to a nine-month endurance test. The work of the heart and lungs increases by 30 to 50 percent (or even more in a twin pregnancy!), the kidneys filter more blood, the immune system adjusts, metabolic demands increase substantially, and there are myriad other changes,” the article says.​
Yes, changes occur to the body during pregnancy. That’s part of the deal. But it’s not a justification for taking the life of the child.​
Not only are these arguments tragic, they’re flat-out wrong. A review of 11 studies showed higher risks of death among women who received abortions. In the relentless pursuit of abortion, activists are painting pregnancy as a burden, rather than a gift that brings life. It’s wrong, and particularly harmful to women who have endured the pain of losing a pregnancy through no fault of their own.​
Also see: Justice Sotomayor is Wrong: Women Are Not Fourteen Times More Likely to Die from Pregnancy
 
Birth control isnt 100%. Some states are going to ban some contraceptives.
Saying IUDs are a murder weapon is the stupidest fucking thing I have ever heard of.
Forced gestation is tyranny.
I think abortion is horrendous... but shit happens. People need to understand that.
You write: Saying IUDs are a murder weapon is the stupidest fucking thing I have ever heard of.​

Where did you read that in the OP?

You write: Forced gestation is tyranny.​
I agree. Rape is tyranny. That was the joke in the OP. So is murdering unborn children for convenience. Pregnancy is not a disease or shit happening. And being made to take responsibly for a pregnancy that is the result of a voluntary act is not tyranny.

For someone who says that abortion is horrendous, you sure have a funny way of saying so.
 
You write: Saying IUDs are a murder weapon is the stupidest fucking thing I have ever heard of.​

Where did you read that in the OP?

You write: Forced gestation is tyranny.​
I agree. Rape is tyranny. That was the joke in the OP. So is murdering unborn children for convenience. Pregnancy is not a disease or shit happening. And being made to take responsibly for a pregnancy that is the result of a voluntary act is not tyranny.

For someone who says that abortion is horrendous, you sure have a funny way of saying so.
I didnt say it was.
Forced gestation IS tyranny. Some states are considering it MURDER because they are going to legislate their personal opinions as SCIENCE.
I dont agree with abortion but that is my OPINION. Just because i dont like something, doesnt mean i want to ban it. Im not an authoritarian POS.
Do you understand now?
 
I didnt say it was.
Forced gestation IS tyranny. Some states are considering it MURDER because they are going to legislate their personal opinions as SCIENCE.
I dont agree with abortion but that is my OPINION. Just because i dont like something, doesnt mean i want to ban it. Im not an authoritarian POS.
Do you understand now?
You seem to be saying a number of things but not saying them at the same time. :auiqs.jpg:

How about we take one thing at a time, so I can get what you're saying straight.

You did say that you "I think abortion is horrendous", right?
 
I didnt say it was.
Forced gestation IS tyranny. Some states are considering it MURDER because they are going to legislate their personal opinions as SCIENCE.
I dont agree with abortion but that is my OPINION. Just because i dont like something, doesnt mean i want to ban it. Im not an authoritarian POS.
Do you understand now?
the party of compassion is losing their loving minds because they can't kill babies!
 
Birth control isnt 100%. Some states are going to ban some contraceptives.
Saying IUDs are a murder weapon is the stupidest fucking thing I have ever heard of.
Forced gestation is tyranny.
I think abortion is horrendous... but shit happens. People need to understand that.

And most people can understand such a position.
 
For reasons that will become obvious, I will intersperse my commentary on the author's article and related matters as I review the author's sometimes hilariously satirical observations in the order they're presented.

Opinion by Katelynn Richardson​
“Forced pregnancy is a crime against humanity,” Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) wrote on Twitter on Sunday.​

As many in the comments were quick to agree, yes, rape is a crime. Seeing through Ocasio-Cortez’s ridiculous statement, commenters noted that the killing of innocent unborn children is also a crime.​

Interjection: :auiqs.jpg:oh, well, Alexandria Ol' Crazy-Eyes-Cortez is not the sharpest tool in the shed.

“Forced pregnancy,” like the equally absurd phrase “pro-forced birth,” is another way to suggest those who desire to protect unborn life have malicious intent. Yet, in the majority of situations leading to abortion, there are ways to avoid pregnancy, as some abortion advocates apparently just discovered. Women who oppose the Dobbs decision have kindled a renewed passion for one time-tested method of preventing pregnancy: abstinence. The word was even trending on Twitter on Saturday.​

“Because SCOTUS overturned Roe V. Wade, we cannot take the risk of an unintended pregnancy, therefore, we will not have sex with any man–including our husbands–unless we are trying to become pregnant,” a #SexStrike pledge circulating on Twitter says:​

Interjection: hence, the time-tested method that supposedly doesn't work. Zoom Right over their heads! :auiqs.jpg:

The hilarious attempt to outwit conservatives by adopting conservative ethics aside, other narratives that cast pregnancy in a negative light are far more disturbing. Media headlines grappling with the overturn of Roe v. Wade emphasize the health consequences of pregnancy, leaving many women sincerely frightened that their lives are in danger without abortion.​
Those deriding abortion bans falsely claim treatments necessary to save the mother, such as in cases of ectopic pregnancies and miscarriages, will be prohibited. In doing so, they ignore the definition of an abortion: the intentional killing of an innocent human life. Ectopic pregnancies, which occur when an embryo implants outside the uterus where it cannot survive, can truly be fatal to the mother. The goal in treating them is not taking a life. It is to save the life of the mother when there is no way to save the baby. It’s not an abortion, and it’s not prohibited.​

Interjection: here I must disagree with the author who is unwittingly conflating killing and murder. Actually, a very early chemical termination of a pregnancy, whether it be normal or ectopic, is an abortion entailing the killing of a developing human life in the zygotic stage of gestation. The developing life is being killed. It cannot come to term and would kill the mother if not terminated and dissolved. In this instance, abortion is a legitimate medical procedure. Of course, the ultimate takeaway here is that such medical abortions would not be prohibited, but we should not use euphemistic terms to describe what they are as if what they are necessarily something nefarious. Intentionally killing a human life that cannot come to term in the first place is simply not the same thing as intentionally killing a human life that can for the sake of some expediency. The former is an ethical medical abortion; the latter is not.

Treatment for women who have experienced miscarriages is likewise not in jeopardy, even when treatments use similar techniques as abortions, like a dilation and suction procedure or medication. Treating a pregnancy loss is, again, far different from inducing an abortion. Even in cases in which the pregnancy poses a threat, it does not necessitate abortion. Leading OB/GYNs acknowledge that separating the mother and fetus can be done without intentionally seeking to kill the child.​

Interjection: Indeed! And this goes to the arguably biggest lie of the proabortion agenda, regarding the supposedly vaguely defined exceptions in abortion prohibitions relative to the life of the mother and the supposed confusion over proper medical care. See my refutation here:


To be fair to Coyote, yes, there are immediately and hopelessly fatal and crippling congenital diseases that unborn babies can have, but these too are very rare. Moreover, they are known, and there's absolutely no reason prohibitions cannot make definitive exceptions accordingly.

“Certainly we're not about forcing women to be pregnant,” Dr. Christina Francis, board member of the American Association of Pro-Life Obstetricians and Gynecologists, said in an NPR interview. “But, you know, once they are pregnant and there's another human life at stake there, then our job as physicians is to provide excellent care to both of those patients.”​
Supposed health threats extend beyond these difficult scenarios to include inconveniences to the mother. Horrifyingly, some categorize “fetal anomalies” — the risk of a baby having a genetic condition — as an emotional health risk to the mother. CNN commentator Ana Navarro-Cardenas cited this reason on-air Friday, using her own brother with special needs as an example.​
Another article in Scientific American lists changes to the woman’s body as a potential risk to continuing pregnancy.​
“All of an expecting mother’s organs and bodily systems are put to a nine-month endurance test. The work of the heart and lungs increases by 30 to 50 percent (or even more in a twin pregnancy!), the kidneys filter more blood, the immune system adjusts, metabolic demands increase substantially, and there are myriad other changes,” the article says.​
Yes, changes occur to the body during pregnancy. That’s part of the deal. But it’s not a justification for taking the life of the child.​
Not only are these arguments tragic, they’re flat-out wrong. A review of 11 studies showed higher risks of death among women who received abortions. In the relentless pursuit of abortion, activists are painting pregnancy as a burden, rather than a gift that brings life. It’s wrong, and particularly harmful to women who have endured the pain of losing a pregnancy through no fault of their own.​
Also see: Justice Sotomayor is Wrong: Women Are Not Fourteen Times More Likely to Die from Pregnancy
Violence against women......con-trolling women's bodies.
 
Why are red states trying to ban some contraceptives?
Why can't you write a coherent post or answer questions about it?

As for your nonsense about forced gestation and tyranny . . . I've already told you that rape is a crime.

The main thrust of the OP goes to the actualities regarding the supposedly vaguely defined exceptions in abortion prohibitions relative to the life of the mother and the supposed confusion over proper medical care.
 
Why are red states trying to ban some contraceptives?
I am all for people using birth control and contraceptives.
Can you imagine how much better our world would be without Pelosi, Hillary, Biden, Obama, Schumer, AOC, Schiff.........
 
Why can't you write a coherent post or answer questions about it?

As for your nonsense about forced gestation and tyranny . . . I've already told you that rape is a crime.

The main thrust of the OP goes to the actualities regarding the supposedly vaguely defined exceptions in abortion prohibitions relative to the life of the mother and the supposed confusion over proper medical care.
It isnt my fault you cant comprehend, bro.
Yes, rape is a crime. Thanks for that :rolleyes: I know what you are trying to do, and its dumb. If a woman wants to end her gestation and the state forces her, it is FORCED GESTATION.
 
TNHarley's usually coherent prose is not in evidence here. His expressed position is a convoluted, inherently contradictory pile of gibberish.

Disagreed.

He made his point clear enough. He does not agree with abortion but also does not think the government should have laws that force women to carry to term.

If I’m incorrect he can clarify.
 
Disagreed.

He made his point clear enough. He does not agree with abortion but also does not think the government should have laws that force women to carry to term.

If I’m incorrect he can clarify.
No, thats it. I didnt think it was that complicated. Lol
Some people just dont understand the concept of not wanting govt to run our lives. :dunno:
 
It isnt my fault you cant comprehend, bro.
Yes, rape is a crime. Thanks for that :rolleyes: I know what you are trying to do, and its dumb. If a woman wants to end her gestation and the state forces her, it is FORCED GESTATION.
You can be as disingenuous as you want about my supposed lack of comprehension when we are both playing on the very same phrase. I can't stop you from telling boldfaced lies. LOL!

Hello. You just acknowledge that very thing. Knock. Knock. Anybody home.

Cortez's blather about forced pregnancy was hysterical nonsense when she uttered it, and it's hysterical nonsense when you utter it.

Once again, from the article:

“Forced pregnancy is a crime against humanity,” Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) wrote on Twitter on Sunday.​
As many in the comments were quick to agree, yes, rape is a crime. Seeing through Ocasio-Cortez’s ridiculous statement, commenters noted that the killing of innocent unborn children is also a crime.​

My refutation stands and stays. :cool:
 
You can be as disingenuous as you want about my supposed lack comprehension when we are both playing on the very same phrase. I can't stop you from telling boldfaced lies. LOL!

Hello. You just acknowledge that very thing. Knock. Knock. Anybody home.

Cortez's blather about forced pregnancy was hysterical nonsense when she uttered it, and it's hysterical nonsense when you utter it.

Once again, from the article:

“Forced pregnancy is a crime against humanity,” Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) wrote on Twitter on Sunday.​
As many in the comments were quick to agree, yes, rape is a crime. Seeing through Ocasio-Cortez’s ridiculous statement, commenters noted that the killing of innocent unborn children is also a crime.​

My refutation stands and stays. :cool:
And she is right. Forced pregnancy is a crime against humanity.
 

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