Anybody wondering why Candy had the Rose Garden Transcript....

[Cheddarmelon]

Romney's the one who tried to sneak a lie through.

Isn't it more important that the truth came out during the debate?

Obama blamed the murders on a movie for two weeks.. .knowing full well it was an organized terrorist attack that fully contracdicted his ridiculous assertions that Al Quadea is dead.

FACT.

False:

1. On Sept. 19, Matthew G. Olsen, the director of the National Counterterrorism Center, said about the killings in Benghazi during a Senate hearing, “Yes, they were killed in the course of a terrorist attack on our embassy.”

2. But the attackers, recognized as members of a local militant group called Ansar al-Shariah, did tell bystanders that they were attacking the compound because they were angry about the video.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/18/u...d-answers-on-the-benghazi-attack.html?_r=1&hp

you mean it's possible that BOTH things are true? GASP! what is the public to do?

 

[Cheddarmelon]

Anybody wondering why Candy had the Rose Garden Transcript....
....and why Obama knew she had it?

Too funny.

The transcript? Maybe she just had her facts straight. Look, Mitt is the one who insisted on pursuing that line of attack. He marched up to the moderator and basically demanded that she affirm his claim. What choice did she have at that point but to correct him? If he had kept it short and sweet and moved on, he probably wouldn't have been corrected. His problem was that after Obama owned up to the mistake, Romney knew he was losing the argument, so he felt like he needed to really push Obama on what he felt was his only legitimate criticism at that point. Only it wasn't a legitimate criticism, as he quickly found out.

The President was full of shit, he never said anything about a terrorist attack in Libya on 9-12-12 and Candy took what Obama said out of context without the next sentence being mentioned which didn't refer to any terrorist attack in Libya. Thus handed the debate to Obama on a lie.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSEM2rYjHcI]Did Obama label the Libya attack as an act of terror? - YouTube[/ame]

 

[RollingThunder]

This thread is officially debunked. Let it go, retards. Reality triumphs over your pathetic attempts to spin this.

No, Obama Didn’t Call Benghazi “Act of Terror” in Speech

Behold, the new birtherism...

Indeed. The pathetic righwingnut retards are always grasping at straws but this bit of reality denial takes the cake. Did Obama label the attack on our consulate in Benghazi an "act of terror" as Romoney and the rightwing echo chamber of retards wants to deny? Yes, he did, on two occasions, on Sept 11th and Sept 13th, as the transcripts prove. Was the government also still investigating the attack and trying to determine if this attack was in some way connected to the widespread rioting and demonstrations over the offensive anti-Muslim video that had been occurring all over the region. Well of course they were. Only idiots jump to conclusions without checking. There were several initial reports out of Benghazi that said that gunmen attacked during a demonstration over the video. Check the BBC reports on the incident published on Sept 12th, 13th and 14th that talk about US officials already suspecting that terrorist groups were involved and Libyan officials saying that the attack happened during "an anti-US protest".

Libya attack: Obama vows justice for killed US envoy.
BBC
12 September 2012
(excerpts)
President Barack Obama has vowed to bring to justice those who carried out the attack that killed the US ambassador to Libya. Ambassador J Christopher Stevens died after gunmen stormed the consulate amid protests over an anti-Islamic film. US officials said Washington was investigating whether the attack was organised in advance, rather than a spontaneous assault sparked by demonstrations over the film. Officials told Reuters there were suspicions that a militia known as the Ansar al-Sharia brigade was involved in the attack. The group has denied the claim. They also cited reports suggesting al-Qaeda's north Africa-based affiliate, known as al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, may have been involved, the news agency reports. The protests followed rallies in Cairo, where demonstrators angry at the film, called Innocence of Muslims, breached the walls of the US embassy and tore down the flag.


Libya attack: US to investigate Benghazi assault
BBC
13 September 2012
(excerpts)
The US is investigating whether the attack in Libya that killed the US ambassador and several other people was planned in advance, officials say. The assault had earlier been thought to have been a spontaneous reaction to protests over an anti-Islamic film. Armed men stormed the consulate in the city of Benghazi on Tuesday night. Officials have now said the attack was complex and professional, and reports suggest the perpetrators may have had links to jihadist groups. A senior US official quoted by AFP news agency said the Benghazi attackers appeared to have used the demonstrations as a pretext to staging an assault. "This was a complex attack," he told the news agency. "They seemed to have used this [protest] as an opportunity." US officials told Reuters news agency there were suspicions that a militia known as the Ansar al-Sharia brigade was responsible, although the group has denied the claim. They said there were also reports that al-Qaeda's north Africa-based affiliate, al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, may have been involved, the news agency reports.


US Libyan consulate attack: Timeline of events
BBC
14 September 2012
(excerpts)
Investigators are trying to piece together exactly what happened during Tuesday's US consulate attack in the Libyan city of Benghazi. They are trying to establish whether the assault was planned or spontaneous. Libyan Deputy Interior Minister Wanis al-Sharif has told reporters he believes militants used an anti-US protest as cover for the attack, and may have had help from inside the country's security services.


Transcript Truthers: Conservatives Deny Obama Called Libya Attack An "Act Of Terror"
October 16, 2012
(excerpts)
During tonight's presidential debate, moderator Candy Crowley corrected Mitt Romney's false claim that President Obama did not refer to the September 11 attack on the American consulate in Benghazi, Libya as an act of terrorism the day after the attack. Crowley was right, and Romney was wrong: In his September 12 remarks, the president said: "No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America." Despite this, conservatives in the media are insisting that Obama never said that.

UPDATE 2: Obama also referred to the Benghazi attack as an "act of terror" while campaigning in Colorado on September 13:

"Let me say at the outset that obviously our hearts are heavy this week -- we had a tough day a couple of days ago, for four Americans were killed in an attack on our diplomatic post in Libya. Yesterday I had a chance to go over to the State Department to talk to friends and colleagues of those who were killed. And these were Americans who, like so many others, both in uniform and civilians, who serve in difficult and dangerous places all around the world to advance the interests and the values that we hold dear as Americans. And a lot of times their work goes unheralded, doesn't get a lot of attention, but it is vitally important. We enjoy our security and our liberty because of the sacrifices that they make. And they do an outstanding job every single day without a lot of fanfare. So what I want all of you to know is that we are going to bring those who killed our fellow Americans to justice. (Applause.) I want people around the world to hear me: To all those who would do us harm, no act of terror will go unpunished. It will not dim the light of the values that we proudly present to the rest of the world. No act of violence shakes the resolve of the United States of America.​

​

 

[antiquity]

Romney's the one who tried to sneak a lie through.

Isn't it more important that the truth came out during the debate?

Obama blamed the murders on a movie for two weeks.. .knowing full well it was an organized terrorist attack that fully contracdicted his ridiculous assertions that Al Quadea is dead.

FACT.

False:

1. On Sept. 19, Matthew G. Olsen, the director of the National Counterterrorism Center, said about the killings in Benghazi during a Senate hearing, “Yes, they were killed in the course of a terrorist attack on our embassy.”

2. But the attackers, recognized as members of a local militant group called Ansar al-Shariah, did tell bystanders that they were attacking the compound because they were angry about the video.

Quote:
1. On Sept. 19, Matthew G. Olsen, the director of the National Counterterrorism Center, said about the killings in Benghazi during a Senate hearing, “Yes, they were killed in the course of a terrorist attack on our embassy.”

What does this statement have to do with when Obama said it was a terrorist attack. I think the director is the straw that broke the camel back and proved that Obama lied.

Quote:
2. But the attackers, recognized as members of a local militant group called Ansar al-Shariah, did tell bystanders that they were attacking the compound because they were angry about the video.

LOL on that one. That has been disproved so many times and makes you look total misinformed.
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[antiquity]

The transcript? Maybe she just had her facts straight. Look, Mitt is the one who insisted on pursuing that line of attack. He marched up to the moderator and basically demanded that she affirm his claim. What choice did she have at that point but to correct him? If he had kept it short and sweet and moved on, he probably wouldn't have been corrected. His problem was that after Obama owned up to the mistake, Romney knew he was losing the argument, so he felt like he needed to really push Obama on what he felt was his only legitimate criticism at that point. Only it wasn't a legitimate criticism, as he quickly found out.

The President was full of shit, he never said anything about a terrorist attack in Libya on 9-12-12 and Candy took what Obama said out of context without the next sentence being mentioned which didn't refer to any terrorist attack in Libya. Thus handed the debate to Obama on a lie.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSEM2rYjHcI]Did Obama label the Libya attack as an act of terror? - YouTube[/ame]

Listen to the part where he says the following:

No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America." Despite this, conservatives in the media are insisting that Obama never said that.

The first sentence he clearly in reference to the 9-11-2001 terrorist attack, the second sentence is clearly a reference to the Libyan attack. If it wasn't why did Obama say the words 'four more Americans'? Four more than what? The first sentence of course, the attack on 9-11-2001.

 

[daveman]

I dont' care to defend Obama on it. I don't think he got the situation right either. Mistakes were made.

But the biggest foils the Mitten-knitters have attacked him on, that he never called it an act of terror, and that he doesn't take responsiblity, both were shown as false last night.

(smile) Sorry, no.

Bammy blamed everybody else for two week, not even a nice try.

Smile? I was unaware that Republicans knew HOW to smile.

There are terabytes of data you are unaware of, apparently.

 

[Cheddarmelon]

(smile) Sorry, no.

Bammy blamed everybody else for two week, not even a nice try.

Smile? I was unaware that Republicans knew HOW to smile.

There are terabytes of data you are unaware of, apparently.

Of course! I'm not under some illusion that I know everything. Why pretend you do?

 

[daveman]

....and why Obama knew she had it?

Too funny.

She probably had a lot of transcripts knowing how Romney lied throughout the last debate. People wanted her to jump in and set that guy straight.

Btw, Obama won last night's debate.

You have a golden opportunity to show even ONE Romney lie from the first debate.

Not one lefty has ever been able to, despite being asked repeatedly.

 

[daveman]

Romney's the one who tried to sneak a lie through.

Isn't it more important that the truth came out during the debate?

Do you still believe it was about a video, the way Obama kept falsely saying?

 

[daveman]

Smile? I was unaware that Republicans knew HOW to smile.

There are terabytes of data you are unaware of, apparently.

Of course! I'm not under some illusion that I know everything. Why pretend you do?

I don't. But I don't pretend leftists don't know how to smile, either.

 

[Cheddarmelon]

There are terabytes of data you are unaware of, apparently.

Of course! I'm not under some illusion that I know everything. Why pretend you do?

I don't. But I don't pretend leftists don't know how to smile, either.

Of course they know how to smile. They're all high, remember?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I'm going to guess that she did her homework and prepared in advance of the debate. The campaigns were both notified that she planned to ask follow-up questions of the candidates during the debate. It would have been stupid for her to have failed to review for the Libya question.

Wasn't it even more stupid for her to insist that Obama didn't say it wasn't terrorism? One casual word referring word does not negate two weeks of denials, some of them from his own mouth.

 

[daveman]

Of course! I'm not under some illusion that I know everything. Why pretend you do?

I don't. But I don't pretend leftists don't know how to smile, either.

Of course they know how to smile. They're all high, remember?

Don't project your failures on me.

 

[Cheddarmelon]

I don't. But I don't pretend leftists don't know how to smile, either.

Of course they know how to smile. They're all high, remember?

Don't project your failures on me.

you're right. I'll allow you to muddle in your own failures.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

She did recant. She said Mitt was right he just didn't frame it the right way.

She said Mitt was mistaken on the acts of terror comment. And, he was. Not only did Obama make that comment on the 12th, he made it twice on the 13th:

CNN Fact Check: A day after Libya attack, Obama described it as 'acts of terror' - CNN.com

I provided a link to one version of those comments (and a link to the entirety of his speech in Golden, Colorado) on another thread entitled Acts of Terror 9/13/2012 in this forum.

Now CNN wants me to believe that Obama is allowed to say one thing now even though he specifically said that the attack was not terrorism.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Time line of lies!

Obama's Benghazi Lies - Home

Destroys Obama's case. It wasn't about a fucking terrorist attack, BUT the protest over our freedom of speech.

Susan Rice said on the 16th that this wasn't a pre-planned attack. LIES

On the 18th Obama went on the letterman show and blamed our first amendment for the attack. LIES!!!

If the terrorized was supposed to mean a terrorist attack. Well, Obama sure inserted his foot in his ass.

Clinton on the 21st was the first to say it was a Terrorist attack. SPIN!

Obama on the view on the 25th said it was about the fucking video! Spin some more!!!

Lies, lies and more lies!!!

Even as of a week ago Carney was spinning.

 

[Sarah G]

....and why Obama knew she had it?

Too funny.

She probably had a lot of transcripts knowing how Romney lied throughout the last debate. People wanted her to jump in and set that guy straight.

Btw, Obama won last night's debate.

You have a golden opportunity to show even ONE Romney lie from the first debate.

Not one lefty has ever been able to, despite being asked repeatedly.

Let me help you out but these are examples of his lies from last night, factcheck.org:

• Romney said repeatedly he won’t cut taxes for the wealthy, a switch from his position during the GOP primaries, when he said the top 1 percent would be among those to benefit.

• Romney said “a recent study has shown” that taxes “will” rise on the middle class by $4,000 as a result of federal debt increases since Obama took office. Not true. That’s just one possible way debt service could be financed.

• Romney claimed 580,000 women have lost jobs under Obama. The true figure is closer to 93,000.

• Romney claimed the automakers’ bankruptcy that Obama implemented was “precisely what I recommend.” Romney did favor a bankruptcy followed by federal loan guarantees, but not the direct federal aid that Obama insists was essential.

• Romney said he would keep Pell Grants for low-income college students “growing.” That’s a change. Both Romney and his running mate, Ryan, have previously said they’d limit eligibility.

Posters here have provided lie after lie from the first debate so what you are claiming is just not true. Just because you don't want to hear doesn't mean it hasn't been said many, many times over. Look it up, slug.

 

[rdean]

Anybody wondering why Candy had the Rose Garden Transcript....

no

 

[ABikerSailor]

....and why Obama knew she had it?

Too funny.

Probably because she's a JOURNALIST (and it's kinda in her job description to pay attention to the news as well as report it, of which a speech from the WH garden would be seen as news). Besides, it was only 2 weeks ago, and chances are, she reported at least one segment on it.

How did Obama know she had it? Because he knew she was a journalist for CNN.

Basic common sense if you think about it.

I'm still wondering where Mittens got his "binders full of women". Is it a binder full of photos (like a Russian mail order bride catalog)? And by the way, a quick fact check of that statement is that Mittens didn't actively seek out those women, he was PRESENTED with many resumes of qualified women.

 

[Amazed]

She probably had a lot of transcripts knowing how Romney lied throughout the last debate. People wanted her to jump in and set that guy straight.

Btw, Obama won last night's debate.

You have a golden opportunity to show even ONE Romney lie from the first debate.

Not one lefty has ever been able to, despite being asked repeatedly.

Let me help you out but these are examples of his lies from last night, factcheck.org:

• Romney said repeatedly he won’t cut taxes for the wealthy, a switch from his position during the GOP primaries, when he said the top 1 percent would be among those to benefit.

• Romney said “a recent study has shown” that taxes “will” rise on the middle class by $4,000 as a result of federal debt increases since Obama took office. Not true. That’s just one possible way debt service could be financed.

• Romney claimed 580,000 women have lost jobs under Obama. The true figure is closer to 93,000.

• Romney claimed the automakers’ bankruptcy that Obama implemented was “precisely what I recommend.” Romney did favor a bankruptcy followed by federal loan guarantees, but not the direct federal aid that Obama insists was essential.

• Romney said he would keep Pell Grants for low-income college students “growing.” That’s a change. Both Romney and his running mate, Ryan, have previously said they’d limit eligibility.

Posters here have provided lie after lie from the first debate so what you are claiming is just not true. Just because you don't want to hear doesn't mean it hasn't been said many, many times over. Look it up, slug.

Well except that you haven't proven anything was alie...you just parrot what you read.