Another Lie debunked-IG report concludes FBI did not spy on trump campaign

[ChemEngineer]

You preach this and then go into name calling to anyone that doesn't support Rump. Your own argument is false.

Here is my post which Daryl Hunt responded to, above:

ChemEngineer: "Your socialist mentality comes straight from Karl Marx, a lazy bum who never worked and seldom bathed.
1. America is doing far better now under President Trump. Don't admit it. It's still true.
2. Eighty percent of people in the top fifth of income/wealth started in the bottom 20%. So countless "poor" people become very comfortable if not "rich" by whatever measure you select. I am a perfect example.
3. If you graduate high school, get married and stay married, you will do well. I know that's hard for Leftists to fathom but it's true.
4. Thou shalt not covet anything that is thy neighbors. This is a Biblical commandment which is utterly ignored by the hateful left.
5. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor. This too is a Biblical commandment which is utterly ignored by the lying left. That's why there is so much divisiveness in America today.

Based on your nonsense prattle, I will create a new thread exposing your covetousness and mendacity."

I didn't call you Trump-haters "racist." That's what you call us every day.
I didn't call you Trump-haters "fascist." That's what you call us every day.
I didn't call you Trump-haters "Nazis" or "KKK." That's what you call us every day.

Have you blocked any intersections or freeways today in protest of your Left wing objectives?
Have you hit any Trump supporters over their heads today while wearing your black mask?
I don't recall one Republican bashing an Obama supporter over the head with a steel bar or bike lock during Obama's eight catastrophic years. Not one. We didn't block intersections or freeways. Nobody was arrested or even fired from their jobs for threatening to assassinate Obama. Lots were for threatening Trump.

The Left is insane and mendacious. Those aren't "names," they're accurate descriptions.

 

[LaDairis]

The "Trump Haters" are very fascist....

They support

1. censorship
2. socialism
3. gun control/confiscation
4. state sponsored DNA discrimination
5. state sponsored abortions
6. hate hoaxes aka false flag attacks
7. using a biased/controlled media to lie to the public, such as CNN giving the debate questions to Hillary before the debate

 

[Seawytch]

What is laughable is Trump starting with unemployment below 5% and you think Trump is awesome because the drop that began under Obama has continued under Trump. What was the unemployment rate at the start of Obama's presidency and what was it at the end? How do you spin that as terrible?

what was the best UE rate during obama's 8 years? what is it today? Now, after posting those you can STFU

Best under Obama was 4.7%. It’s now 3.6%. It’s not exactly an monumental shift.

It's the best unemployment numbers ever recorded by ANY President!

Simple question. Let’s see if you can answer honestly. Was unemployment on the rise or decline when Obama took office? Was it on the rise or decline when Trump took office?

It was on the rise. It was REALLY was on the rise after Barry's stimulus cratered!
It was on the decline when Trump took office and has continued to decline because of his economic policies.

Now that I've answered your simple question how about you answer mine? What Obama economic policy created jobs and lowered unemployment?

So you admit that the decline began under Obama. Good boy. Trump has continued Obama’s good economy...for now.

 

[Faun]

Articles like that one never fail to make me laugh, Seawytch! You can't show us where Barry set a record for low unemployment...and you can't tell me what Obama economic policies created jobs...but you CAN cherry pick numbers to try and make a President who was terrible with the economy look good!

What is laughable is Trump starting with unemployment below 5% and you think Trump is awesome because the drop that began under Obama has continued under Trump. What was the unemployment rate at the start of Obama's presidency and what was it at the end? How do you spin that as terrible?

what was the best UE rate during obama's 8 years? what is it today? Now, after posting those you can STFU

Best under Obama was 4.7%. It’s now 3.6%. It’s not exactly an monumental shift.

It's the best unemployment numbers ever recorded by ANY President!

I ask once again...what economic policies did Barry ever push through that created jobs? You can cite the fact that jobs were created during his administration...and they were...but the truth is most of those jobs were created DESPITE him! The economy was driven in large part by an energy boom brought about by advances in fracking...something that Barack Obama actively opposed! Do you think it makes any sense at all to credit someone for the success of a thing that they didn't want to happen?

Sorry bud, but you are just flat out wrong. Trump is the beneficiary of Obama economic policy.

That putz is such a lying con tool, he's actually arguing that Obama doesn't get credit for the unemployment rate dropping for 7 years but that Trump does get credit for the unemployment rate to continue dropping even before becoming president.

Conservatism is a mental disorder.

 

[Faun]

Trump is the beneficiary of Obama economic policy.

What did we, the American people, get from running up the Debt to the tune of $9 trillion???

The same that we're getting from Trump who is on pace to add about that much in debt.

 

[Nostra]

IM2?

Faun?

Now that I've proven to a100% certainty, that the Obama FBI did in fact spy, illegally on the Trump campaign, you've both gone silent.

Comment?

No one has done that. And the Obama FBI did none of what you claim. Now you can repeat that lie to yourself everyday until Durham shows nothing happened, but I am not going to keep arguing with idiots who think debate means you get to make shit up and say it over and over.

Horowitz says you are full of shit.

Nah. He says what I posted.

You are a liar.

 

[Nostra]

Articles like that one never fail to make me laugh, Seawytch! You can't show us where Barry set a record for low unemployment...and you can't tell me what Obama economic policies created jobs...but you CAN cherry pick numbers to try and make a President who was terrible with the economy look good!

What is laughable is Trump starting with unemployment below 5% and you think Trump is awesome because the drop that began under Obama has continued under Trump. What was the unemployment rate at the start of Obama's presidency and what was it at the end? How do you spin that as terrible?

what was the best UE rate during obama's 8 years? what is it today? Now, after posting those you can STFU

Best under Obama was 4.7%. It’s now 3.6%. It’s not exactly an monumental shift.

It's the best unemployment numbers ever recorded by ANY President!

I ask once again...what economic policies did Barry ever push through that created jobs? You can cite the fact that jobs were created during his administration...and they were...but the truth is most of those jobs were created DESPITE him! The economy was driven in large part by an energy boom brought about by advances in fracking...something that Barack Obama actively opposed! Do you think it makes any sense at all to credit someone for the success of a thing that they didn't want to happen?

Sorry bud, but you are just flat out wrong. Trump is the beneficiary of Obama economic policy.

Trump reversed Obama's putrid economic policy.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Donald Trump: Trump plans to add $5.088 trillion to the debt in his first term. That's a 30% increase from the $20.245 trillion debt at the end of Obama's last budget for FY 2017. If he remains in office for a second term, he plans to add $9.1 trillion. Trump had promised to eliminate the debt during his campaign.

• FY 2021 - $1.276 trillion.
• FY 2020 - $1.281 trillion.
• FY 2019 - $1.314 trillion.
• FY 2018 - $1.217 trillion.

Which President Increased U.S. Debt the Most?

trump will have surpassed Obama without facing a depression where he had to spend to stimulate the economy. So go ahead, give trump a second term and see what you get.

So you will join me in supporting MASSIVE SPENDING CUTS to address this issue?


Yeah, didn't think so....

Are you willing to do what it takes to support massive spending cuts? Are you willing to send them all packing including those of the same party you claim to belong to? This includes the Dems, Reps and Rump. All of a sudden Bloomberg doesn't sound so bad afterall.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

You preach this and then go into name calling to anyone that doesn't support Rump. Your own argument is false.

Here is my post which Daryl Hunt responded to, above:

ChemEngineer: "Your socialist mentality comes straight from Karl Marx, a lazy bum who never worked and seldom bathed.
1. America is doing far better now under President Trump. Don't admit it. It's still true.
2. Eighty percent of people in the top fifth of income/wealth started in the bottom 20%. So countless "poor" people become very comfortable if not "rich" by whatever measure you select. I am a perfect example.
3. If you graduate high school, get married and stay married, you will do well. I know that's hard for Leftists to fathom but it's true.
4. Thou shalt not covet anything that is thy neighbors. This is a Biblical commandment which is utterly ignored by the hateful left.
5. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor. This too is a Biblical commandment which is utterly ignored by the lying left. That's why there is so much divisiveness in America today.

Based on your nonsense prattle, I will create a new thread exposing your covetousness and mendacity."

I didn't call you Trump-haters "racist." That's what you call us every day.
I didn't call you Trump-haters "fascist." That's what you call us every day.
I didn't call you Trump-haters "Nazis" or "KKK." That's what you call us every day.

Have you blocked any intersections or freeways today in protest of your Left wing objectives?
Have you hit any Trump supporters over their heads today while wearing your black mask?
I don't recall one Republican bashing an Obama supporter over the head with a steel bar or bike lock during Obama's eight catastrophic years. Not one. We didn't block intersections or freeways. Nobody was arrested or even fired from their jobs for threatening to assassinate Obama. Lots were for threatening Trump.

The Left is insane and mendacious. Those aren't "names," they're accurate descriptions.

Give it a rest. There were enough crackpot things by both sides. You over inflate the one side while ignoring the other. And around here, a lot of people should have been fired for threatening harm to Obama but weren't. Yet not the same can be said the other way around. Once again, you play one side down while over inflating the other. That's called Lying,

 

[lennypartiv]

Are you willing to do what it takes to support massive spending cuts? Are you willing to send them all packing including those of the same party you claim to belong to? This includes the Dems, Reps and Rump. All of a sudden Bloomberg doesn't sound so bad afterall.

Those cuts should have been made decades ago. Social Security is a ponzi scheme that should get the axe first. Medicare and Medicaid should also go away.

 

[Oldstyle]

what was the best UE rate during obama's 8 years? what is it today? Now, after posting those you can STFU

Best under Obama was 4.7%. It’s now 3.6%. It’s not exactly an monumental shift.

It's the best unemployment numbers ever recorded by ANY President!

Simple question. Let’s see if you can answer honestly. Was unemployment on the rise or decline when Obama took office? Was it on the rise or decline when Trump took office?

It was on the rise. It was REALLY was on the rise after Barry's stimulus cratered!
It was on the decline when Trump took office and has continued to decline because of his economic policies.

Now that I've answered your simple question how about you answer mine? What Obama economic policy created jobs and lowered unemployment?

So you admit that the decline began under Obama. Good boy. Trump has continued Obama’s good economy...for now.

Well if you look at it...unemployment was going up until the Democrats got shellacked in the first midterm...losing both the House and the Senate! Then and only then did the economy start to improve because Barry couldn't push his liberal agenda.

I notice that you avoided answering my question again, Seawytch! You really don't know much about what Barack Obama's economic policies WERE...do you? If he was such a great President with the economy then it should be easy for you to point out what HE did to lower unemployment and create jobs yet you struggle to do so. Why is that?

 

[Seawytch]

Best under Obama was 4.7%. It’s now 3.6%. It’s not exactly an monumental shift.

It's the best unemployment numbers ever recorded by ANY President!

Simple question. Let’s see if you can answer honestly. Was unemployment on the rise or decline when Obama took office? Was it on the rise or decline when Trump took office?

It was on the rise. It was REALLY was on the rise after Barry's stimulus cratered!
It was on the decline when Trump took office and has continued to decline because of his economic policies.

Now that I've answered your simple question how about you answer mine? What Obama economic policy created jobs and lowered unemployment?

So you admit that the decline began under Obama. Good boy. Trump has continued Obama’s good economy...for now.

Well if you look at it...unemployment was going up until the Democrats got shellacked in the first midterm...losing both the House and the Senate! Then and only then did the economy start to improve because Barry couldn't push his liberal agenda.

I notice that you avoided answering my question again, Seawytch! You really don't know much about what Barack Obama's economic policies WERE...do you? If he was such a great President with the economy then it should be easy for you to point out what HE did to lower unemployment and create jobs yet you struggle to do so. Why is that?

Just stop. Trump hasn't done dick...except continue the good economy he was handed. Good on him for not screwing it up yet. (Not for lack of trying...ahem, trade war).

What Kind Of 'Jobs President' Has Obama Been — In 8 Charts

All of this is to say that Trump inherits a job market that is humming along comfortably, given how poor of shape it was in only recently. But it's also an economy that has sharply moved away from manufacturing and other goods-producing industries — the very ones he pushed the most in the election. That change has hurt plenty of Americans, despite the job market's improvement.

Trump has tried to claim credit for several hundred goods-producing jobs here and there (credit that he doesn't always deserve, as the Washington Post's Philip Bump has reported), but bringing manufacturing employment back in a sizable way seems like a tall order for any president. Furthermore, alternative work — like driving an Uber or Lyft — continues to grow quickly as a share of the economy. That change could eventually require policy attention, as more workers take jobs that don't come with benefits.

But there's another big caveat here. Presidents get lots of credit and blame for the economy's performance, despite the fact that they don't really have firm control over that performance. (If they did, why would recessions ever happen?)

Yes, a president can push an economic agenda and in some cases push particular policies that end up having a sizable impact on the economy (see: the 2009 stimulus package, which undeniably had a positive impact).​

 

[IM2]

IM2?

Faun?

Now that I've proven to a100% certainty, that the Obama FBI did in fact spy, illegally on the Trump campaign, you've both gone silent.

Comment?

No one has done that. And the Obama FBI did none of what you claim. Now you can repeat that lie to yourself everyday until Durham shows nothing happened, but I am not going to keep arguing with idiots who think debate means you get to make shit up and say it over and over.

Horowitz says you are full of shit.

Nah. He says what I posted.

You are a liar.

Nope.

 

[IM2]

What is laughable is Trump starting with unemployment below 5% and you think Trump is awesome because the drop that began under Obama has continued under Trump. What was the unemployment rate at the start of Obama's presidency and what was it at the end? How do you spin that as terrible?

what was the best UE rate during obama's 8 years? what is it today? Now, after posting those you can STFU

Best under Obama was 4.7%. It’s now 3.6%. It’s not exactly an monumental shift.

It's the best unemployment numbers ever recorded by ANY President!

I ask once again...what economic policies did Barry ever push through that created jobs? You can cite the fact that jobs were created during his administration...and they were...but the truth is most of those jobs were created DESPITE him! The economy was driven in large part by an energy boom brought about by advances in fracking...something that Barack Obama actively opposed! Do you think it makes any sense at all to credit someone for the success of a thing that they didn't want to happen?

Sorry bud, but you are just flat out wrong. Trump is the beneficiary of Obama economic policy.

Trump reversed Obama's putrid economic policy.

Wrong.

 

[IM2]

Donald Trump: Trump plans to add $5.088 trillion to the debt in his first term. That's a 30% increase from the $20.245 trillion debt at the end of Obama's last budget for FY 2017. If he remains in office for a second term, he plans to add $9.1 trillion. Trump had promised to eliminate the debt during his campaign.

• FY 2021 - $1.276 trillion.
• FY 2020 - $1.281 trillion.
• FY 2019 - $1.314 trillion.
• FY 2018 - $1.217 trillion.

Which President Increased U.S. Debt the Most?

trump will have surpassed Obama without facing a depression where he had to spend to stimulate the economy. So go ahead, give trump a second term and see what you get.

So you will join me in supporting MASSIVE SPENDING CUTS to address this issue?


Yeah, didn't think so....

Yep cut the tax breaks for billionaires and cut military spending by 67 percent.

 

[IM2]

what was the best UE rate during obama's 8 years? what is it today? Now, after posting those you can STFU

Best under Obama was 4.7%. It’s now 3.6%. It’s not exactly an monumental shift.

They can't seem to compare the economy Obama was given to the one he gave to trump. Their disingenuous argument puts us in danger of a second trump term where he may do long lasting harm to our economy.

Lasting harm to our economy? If you want to see THAT happen, IM2...elect Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren! It will be an economic Armageddon!

I stated that trump will cause lasting harm to our economy if he is given a second term and he will. What Warren and Sanders want could be done if we quit spending more of our money on the military annually than the other 10 top nations in annual military expenditures combined.

Now you’re an expert on economics. [emoji1787]


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I can't help it if I am smarter than you.

 

[Oldstyle]

It's the best unemployment numbers ever recorded by ANY President!

Simple question. Let’s see if you can answer honestly. Was unemployment on the rise or decline when Obama took office? Was it on the rise or decline when Trump took office?

It was on the rise. It was REALLY was on the rise after Barry's stimulus cratered!
It was on the decline when Trump took office and has continued to decline because of his economic policies.

Now that I've answered your simple question how about you answer mine? What Obama economic policy created jobs and lowered unemployment?

So you admit that the decline began under Obama. Good boy. Trump has continued Obama’s good economy...for now.

Well if you look at it...unemployment was going up until the Democrats got shellacked in the first midterm...losing both the House and the Senate! Then and only then did the economy start to improve because Barry couldn't push his liberal agenda.

I notice that you avoided answering my question again, Seawytch! You really don't know much about what Barack Obama's economic policies WERE...do you? If he was such a great President with the economy then it should be easy for you to point out what HE did to lower unemployment and create jobs yet you struggle to do so. Why is that?

Just stop. Trump hasn't done dick...except continue the good economy he was handed. Good on him for not screwing it up yet. (Not for lack of trying...ahem, trade war).

What Kind Of 'Jobs President' Has Obama Been — In 8 Charts

All of this is to say that Trump inherits a job market that is humming along comfortably, given how poor of shape it was in only recently. But it's also an economy that has sharply moved away from manufacturing and other goods-producing industries — the very ones he pushed the most in the election. That change has hurt plenty of Americans, despite the job market's improvement.

Trump has tried to claim credit for several hundred goods-producing jobs here and there (credit that he doesn't always deserve, as the Washington Post's Philip Bump has reported), but bringing manufacturing employment back in a sizable way seems like a tall order for any president. Furthermore, alternative work — like driving an Uber or Lyft — continues to grow quickly as a share of the economy. That change could eventually require policy attention, as more workers take jobs that don't come with benefits.

But there's another big caveat here. Presidents get lots of credit and blame for the economy's performance, despite the fact that they don't really have firm control over that performance. (If they did, why would recessions ever happen?)

Yes, a president can push an economic agenda and in some cases push particular policies that end up having a sizable impact on the economy (see: the 2009 stimulus package, which undeniably had a positive impact).​

You can't come up with anything that Obama did policy wise to create jobs...can you, Seawytch? Was that the best you could find? That's a testament to how pathetic Barry's performance WAS on job creation!

 

[Butch_Coolidge]

Best under Obama was 4.7%. It’s now 3.6%. It’s not exactly an monumental shift.

They can't seem to compare the economy Obama was given to the one he gave to trump. Their disingenuous argument puts us in danger of a second trump term where he may do long lasting harm to our economy.

Lasting harm to our economy? If you want to see THAT happen, IM2...elect Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren! It will be an economic Armageddon!

I stated that trump will cause lasting harm to our economy if he is given a second term and he will. What Warren and Sanders want could be done if we quit spending more of our money on the military annually than the other 10 top nations in annual military expenditures combined.

Now you’re an expert on economics. [emoji1787]


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I can't help it if I am smarter than you.

You voted for Hillary, and you are going to vote for one of three possible Alzheimer’s patients, so that’s debatable.


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[Butch_Coolidge]

Best under Obama was 4.7%. It’s now 3.6%. It’s not exactly an monumental shift.

They can't seem to compare the economy Obama was given to the one he gave to trump. Their disingenuous argument puts us in danger of a second trump term where he may do long lasting harm to our economy.

Lasting harm to our economy? If you want to see THAT happen, IM2...elect Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren! It will be an economic Armageddon!

I stated that trump will cause lasting harm to our economy if he is given a second term and he will. What Warren and Sanders want could be done if we quit spending more of our money on the military annually than the other 10 top nations in annual military expenditures combined.

Now you’re an expert on economics. [emoji1787]


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[Seawytch]

Simple question. Let’s see if you can answer honestly. Was unemployment on the rise or decline when Obama took office? Was it on the rise or decline when Trump took office?

It was on the rise. It was REALLY was on the rise after Barry's stimulus cratered!
It was on the decline when Trump took office and has continued to decline because of his economic policies.

Now that I've answered your simple question how about you answer mine? What Obama economic policy created jobs and lowered unemployment?

So you admit that the decline began under Obama. Good boy. Trump has continued Obama’s good economy...for now.

Well if you look at it...unemployment was going up until the Democrats got shellacked in the first midterm...losing both the House and the Senate! Then and only then did the economy start to improve because Barry couldn't push his liberal agenda.

I notice that you avoided answering my question again, Seawytch! You really don't know much about what Barack Obama's economic policies WERE...do you? If he was such a great President with the economy then it should be easy for you to point out what HE did to lower unemployment and create jobs yet you struggle to do so. Why is that?

Just stop. Trump hasn't done dick...except continue the good economy he was handed. Good on him for not screwing it up yet. (Not for lack of trying...ahem, trade war).

What Kind Of 'Jobs President' Has Obama Been — In 8 Charts

All of this is to say that Trump inherits a job market that is humming along comfortably, given how poor of shape it was in only recently. But it's also an economy that has sharply moved away from manufacturing and other goods-producing industries — the very ones he pushed the most in the election. That change has hurt plenty of Americans, despite the job market's improvement.

Trump has tried to claim credit for several hundred goods-producing jobs here and there (credit that he doesn't always deserve, as the Washington Post's Philip Bump has reported), but bringing manufacturing employment back in a sizable way seems like a tall order for any president. Furthermore, alternative work — like driving an Uber or Lyft — continues to grow quickly as a share of the economy. That change could eventually require policy attention, as more workers take jobs that don't come with benefits.

But there's another big caveat here. Presidents get lots of credit and blame for the economy's performance, despite the fact that they don't really have firm control over that performance. (If they did, why would recessions ever happen?)

Yes, a president can push an economic agenda and in some cases push particular policies that end up having a sizable impact on the economy (see: the 2009 stimulus package, which undeniably had a positive impact).​

You can't come up with anything that Obama did policy wise to create jobs...can you, Seawytch? Was that the best you could find? That's a testament to how pathetic Barry's performance WAS on job creation!

The stimulus had an undeniable positive impact. We stopped hemorrhaging jobs.

Two Charts Show Trump's Job Gains Are Just A Continuation From Obama's Presidency

Unemployment rate has been dropping for 9 years

The unemployment rate shows pretty much the same progression from President Obama to President Trump . The unemployment rate started to climb the last two years of President Bush’s second term and substantially in Obama’s first year as the Great Recession that he had inherited was having a huge impact.

Bush’s last four years in office:

• December 2005: 4.9%
• December 2006: 4.4%, decreased 0.5%
• December 2007: 5.0%, increased 0.6%
• December 2008: 7.3%, increased 2.3%

Obama’s time in office

• December 2009: 9.9%, increased 2.6%(teeth of the recession)
• December 2010: 9.3%, decreased 0.6%
• December 2011: 8.5%, decreased 0.8%
• December 2012: 7.9%, decreased 0.6%
• December 2013: 6.7%, decreased 1.2%
• December 2014: 5.6%, decreased 1.1%
• December 2015: 5.0%, decreased 0.6%
• December 2016: 4.7%, decreased 0.3%

Trump’s through September:

• December 2017: 4.1%, decreased 0.6%
• September 2018: 3.7%, decreased 0.4%

Its really simple, Trump has continued the good economy he was handed by Barack Obama but you treat him like he turned water into wine. That is the epitome of a sycophant.