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    Another African "irresponsibility" myth is that blacks undervalue education and or somehow equate getting good grades and being smart with "acting white." Again this is yet another myth widely believed but with little in the way of facts to back it up, yet when one does look at published research the opposite is found. Below are three papers that unequivocally refute this myth:



    http://home.uchicago.edu/~ludwigj/papers/JPAM-BurdenActingWhite-1997



    Assessing the Oppositional Culture Explanation for Racial/Ethnic Differences in School Performance
    AINSWORTH-DARNELL J. W. (1) ; DOWNEY D. B. (1) ;

    The oppositional culture explanation for racial disparities in school performance posits that individuals from historically oppressed groups (involuntary minorities) signify their antagonism toward the dominant group by resisting school goals. In contrast, individuals from the dominant group and groups that migrated freely to the host country (immigrant minorities) maintain optimistic views of their chances for educational and occupational success. Because of its historical and cross-cultural appeal, this explanation has been well-received by academics, although key implications of the theory have not been carefully tested. Proponents have failed to systematically compare perceptions of occupational opportunity and resistance to school across involuntary, dominant, and immigrant groups. Using a large sample of African American, Asian American, and non-Hispanic white high school sophomores from the first follow-up of the National Education Longitudinal Study, the authors provide the first rigorous test of the oppositional culture explanation. Upon close scrutiny, its key predictions fail



    http://www.tc.columbia.edu/students/see/events/Darity_et_al_Understanding_Burden_Acting_White.pdf



    Do some black students equate being smart sometimes with being white? Yes, some folks are just ignorant like that. Is this something that is widespread among all blacks and indicates a propensity by blacks to devalue education? Hell no, such stereotypical assertions are more myth that fact. Also, getting teased for being smart and getting good grades is not a black thing, its happens also with white kids, except they don't label it as acting white, they call people nerds and such people are also some of the least popular people in school also, but no one accuses whites of devaluing education, once again being white has its advantages and privileges.
     
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    More information debunking the notion that urban people don't value their children's education:


    Education Book Review/Reading Families


    According to Compton-Lilly many inner city students exist in a world where their talents are often not recognized and their efforts are seen as inconsequential. They are discounted and are made to feel as though their contributions are somehow inferior to that of others in their world. More telling, assumptions are made about their abilities and those assumptions govern the way they are treated and consequently the way they react to the educational system and the rest of society. It is therefore, not surprising that many urban students come to the ultimate conclusion that they are incapable of learning anything at all. This is the reality of urban youth in Reading Families: The Literate Lives of Urban Children.

    The author uses a combination of personal experience and the results from research conducted as a first grade teacher in an urban school, to discount the untruths about the literacy capability of children in urban settings. The early chapters present an excursus of existing myths held by both parents and educators - myths that block the formation of cooperative relationships that could enhance the learning experiences of urban kids. The author attributes a lot of these attitudes to the many teachers who are socialized to believe that not only are urban children unable to readily grasp the concept of reading but that they are products of families that do not value or reinforce reading skills as a part of their lives.

    The author’s research provides evidence that shows that the discourses held by many mainstream teachers are without merit when they generally disparage the willingness and ability of urban families to help facilitate the process of literacy among young children. On the contrary, most of the parents interviewed by Compton- Lilly displayed urgency around the desire to have their children become successful readers and thus improve their life chances. Further, these parents seemed to have a very distinct understanding of the limitations of illiteracy and expressed aspirations for their children that included reading and learning to navigate the world of education. A preponderance of the evidence also showed that urban parents understood the concept of cultural capital and believed that their children were not being granted fair access to some of the educational resources available to others by virtue of their sociopolitical and socioeconomic status.




    Black Parents Place Higher Value On College Education Than Whites: Study | Jet | Find Articles at BNET

    Black parents are far more likely than White parents to rank a college education as the most important ingredient for a youngster's ultimate success, a newly released poll reveals.

    The survey of the general public and parents of high school-age youths found that 47 percent of Black parents considered college the most important element for their children's success, while only 33 percent of White parents agreed with that sentiment
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    Black myth? Don't they make 'orse shooth!
     
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    Bass needs to stop acting white.
     
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    chuck is white. He just logs in here and acts like an ignorant ****** to try to perpetuate the stereotype of the uneducated and closed-minded racist Afrocentrist and irritate people while hoping to increase the hatred of blacks
     
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    Oh i dunno.. I think the bass is black but his opinions are a textbook example of cultural PTSD clouding his logic. While not every black is shifty and irresponsible he tries to pretend that a lot aren't. Which, is just silly. Then, when the numbers cannot be fudged (like prison population and illegitimate pregnancies) he blames whitey. To be honest, i feel sorry for the bass for trying to champion a losing horse.
     
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    Jackass, most blacks aren't irresponsible, criminal and lazy and no where in any of the Bass' posts was this ever conveyed, the Bass was simply presenting a more complete picture of who and what African Americans truly are and bringing out that full picture in no way denies the bad amongst some blacks. There are 40.9 million African Americans and those negative stats don't reflect the majority of us, just a disproportionate amount of us compared to other ethno-racial groups, thats the main point monkeys like you don't understand,
     

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