Another black myth exploded

[Shogun]

The world is full of personal failures and successes. Doesn't matter what color the paint job is. You can find satistics to justify almost anything you want to proclaim. Truth of the matter is this. Buttheads exist in all races. So do really nice guys. (and girls).

true... but do you agree or disagree that, statistically, more klansmen are southern and white? If not, why deny that black ghetto culture impedes it's own race?

There is no such damn thing as black ghetto culture, period, good and bad behaviors do not constitute cultures and there is no research that supports any existence of something called black ghetto culture. If there is post the studies that say so with full citations.

yea dude.. from the NO SNITCHING to gangster thug wannabes and the ACTUAL BLACK KILLER THUGS to the baby mammas there sure is no black ghetto culture!



2 pac, motherfucker. More ghetto blacks idolize him than Clerence Thomas. If 2 pac wasn't a thug I've got some music for you to listen to.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

I told you, dude.. I can ALWAYS post stats from the CDC and census reports on prison populations. You shoot yourself in the foot by denying your ethnicity has cultural syphilis.

post the stats all you like monkey, the stats will show that the bass is more right than you, blacks are 40.9 million people and most are not in prison especially when the prison population is 2 million and most of those are white numerically you faggot. Stats by themselves mean nothing and prove nothing. The majority of African Americans by far value education, care about their childrens's education, are not criminals and are not in prison, unless you can prove that most of the 40.9 million blacks are you have no damn case.

 

[Shogun]

‘Ghetto Culture’ worries social critics…

By G. Jeffrey MacDonald

The USA’s younger generation is being wooed by the flashy hip-hop lifestyle, which has gone increasingly mainstream - from baggy fashions and bejeweled ‘grillz’ to ‘pimp and ho’ slang. But a growing chorus of cultural critics is wondering “At what cost?”

Journalist Cora Daniels stumbled on the first raw material for her new book quite literally on her Brooklyn doorstep, where teenagers found it terrifically fun and “ghetto” to play cards, drink beer and cuss into the wee hours on school nights.

Several months and a few thousand miles later, she argues in Ghettonation that a “ghetto” mind-set - which she says celebrates the worst of human nature - has taken hold coast to coast.

“Ghetto” styles, from wearing gaudy jewelry to using the n-word in ordinary conversation, have caught on with teens and young adults who aren’t black, yet who seem to enjoy imitating famous hip-hop artists such as 50 Cent and Three 6 Mafia.

The “ghetto-ization” of America, which includes everything from baggy clothes to racial slurs and slacker attitudes, is triggering concern far beyond urban neighborhoods. Last week, white radio host Don Imus lost his job at CBS after he used “ho” (hip-hop slang for “whore&#8221 on the air, and drew widespread condemnation.

Meanwhile, some worry that white youth are getting too comfortable adopting hip-hop norms, which, in the wrong hands, seem to mock the culture of poor blacks.

Daniels, who is 35 and black, worries about a downward cultural spiral where suburban boys work as pimps, middle-class girls aspire to dance like strippers and dropping out of school is often seen as a badge of honor.

Others have noticed a blurring of urban and suburban youth cultures: A 2004 Manhattan Institute for Policy Research report concluded that “suburban public high school students have sex, drink, smoke, use illegal drugs, and engage in delinquent behavior as often as urban” students.

Daniels believes “the bar has dropped so low (for acceptable behavior) that we don’t even know where it is anymore.” She emphasizes that “this is not a black thing. It’s a national thing.”

“This behavior is celebrated. It’s now something folks don’t have shame about,” Daniels says. “Our expectations have gotten too low.”

Beyond the media spotlight, Daniels argues, “ghetto” is a staple of many youth subcultures. What troubles certain onlookers is when youthful fans not only listen to the urban sound of hip-hop but also borrow from certain rappers’ attitudes and lyrics, freely using words such as “mofo,” “ho” and numerous unprintable others.

Ramon Ramirez knows the phenomenon firsthand. Growing up in South Austin, he and his friends listened to hip-hop, and Hispanic kids routinely addressed each other by the n-word.

Even now, as a senior at the University of Texas-Austin, Ramirez says non-black students will playfully call out, “hos in the back!” when jumping in a car with women. Nobody takes offense, he says, because they’re just joking around.

“Most people take rap with a grain of salt,” says Ramirez, music editor of The Daily Texan, the campus newspaper. When they talk or act like rappers, he says, “it’s very much tongue-in-cheek.”

But at times, white college students have crossed into racially offensive territory. For Martin Luther King Jr. Day, students at Tarleton State University in Stephenville, Texas, held a party where they dressed in faux gang apparel, ate fried chicken and drank from 40-ounce malt liquor bottles in paper bags. Similar events have taken place at other schools.

Undercurrents of racism and class prejudice are never far away when middle-class people dress and behave like poor blacks who’ve briefly tasted a type of success through hip-hop, says William Jelani Cobb, a professor of American history at Spelman College. “Periodically, American popular culture gets back to its minstrel roots (when whites) take an exaggerated caricature of black folks and play it up,” he says.

Others, however, see less harmful dynamics at work. Bakari Kitwana, author of Why White Kids Love Hip Hop and a convener of campus dialogues on hip-hop culture, says suburban kids forge their own identities through hip-hop culture and often mean no offense by claiming “ghetto” styles.

What’s more, he says, today’s youth and young adults reflect strong moral values in surveys and life. His example: out-of-wedlock births have declined with this generation. Even so, he says, people have never been perfect, and now their foibles are on display because young people today are generally less inhibited than their parents.

“I think the values have always been there and were suppressed” before hip-hop made it OK to celebrate materialism, Kitwana says. As a society, “we’ve taught young people that money is more important than anything else. Then we expect them not to act like that?”

Some worry that a younger generation is setting itself up for disaster by failing to heed traditional norms for respect and restraint. Theology professor Anthony Bradley, for instance, wants young people to recognize the link between self-control and dignity.

“This generation has no moral compass to see that this (’ghetto’ style) is not good for them,” says Bradley, of Covenant Theological Seminary in St. Louis. Institutions such as marriage, education and the church “are no longer valued.”

Yet where institutions may be absent, hip-hop devotees are stepping up with an encouraging word. Jerod Couch, a senior at the University of Texas-Austin, uses his public access TV show ATX Most Wanted to discuss hip-hop culture - and offer moral correctives when necessary.

“My biggest concern is how hip-hop degrades women and makes them seem like objects,” says Couch, who is white. “I’ve encouraged people to treat every woman as if she was the best woman on earth - as if she was your mother, deserving of respect.”

Let’s hear it…

» ‘Ghetto Culture’ worries social critics… - BlackParentMovement.com - Caring, Guiding, Teaching Black Children…Together


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[Bass v 2.0]

true... but do you agree or disagree that, statistically, more klansmen are southern and white? If not, why deny that black ghetto culture impedes it's own race?

There is no such damn thing as black ghetto culture, period, good and bad behaviors do not constitute cultures and there is no research that supports any existence of something called black ghetto culture. If there is post the studies that say so with full citations.

yea dude.. from the NO SNITCHING to gangster thug wannabes and the ACTUAL BLACK KILLER THUGS to the baby mammas there sure is no black ghetto culture!



2 pac, motherfucker. More ghetto blacks idolize him than Clerence Thomas. If 2 pac wasn't a thug I've got some music for you to listen to.

Post the studies jackass or shut up, by the same retard logic you use about 2 pac and blacks the bass could say the same about Eminem and white kids, so whats the point? You have posted no evidence from research and studies that a black ghetto culture exists. let alone most of the 40.9 millions Aframs partake of such a culture.

 

[Shogun]

I told you, dude.. I can ALWAYS post stats from the CDC and census reports on prison populations. You shoot yourself in the foot by denying your ethnicity has cultural syphilis.

post the stats all you like monkey, the stats will show that the bass is more right than you, blacks are 40.9 million people and most are not in prison especially when the prison population is 2 million and most of those are white numerically you faggot. Stats by themselves mean nothing and prove nothing. The majority of African Americans by far value education, care about their childrens's education, are not criminals and are not in prison, unless you can prove that most of the 40.9 million blacks are you have no damn case.

run from the facts all you need to, dude. It's no sweat off of my balls. We ALL know why more blacks are in prison than college and it has nothing to do with blaming whitey.

 

[Shogun]

There is no such damn thing as black ghetto culture, period, good and bad behaviors do not constitute cultures and there is no research that supports any existence of something called black ghetto culture. If there is post the studies that say so with full citations.

yea dude.. from the NO SNITCHING to gangster thug wannabes and the ACTUAL BLACK KILLER THUGS to the baby mammas there sure is no black ghetto culture!



2 pac, motherfucker. More ghetto blacks idolize him than Clerence Thomas. If 2 pac wasn't a thug I've got some music for you to listen to.

Post the studies jackass or shut up, by the same retard logic you use about 2 pac and blacks the bass could say the same about Eminem and white kids, so whats the point? You have posted no evidence from research and studies that a black ghetto culture exists. let alone most of the 40.9 millions Aframs partake of such a culture.

EMINEM IS A DIRECT EMULATION OF BLACK CULTURE YOU DUMMY!




who the FUCK do you think put Eminem in the studio?

 

[Bass v 2.0]

Monkey, the Bass said post an actual study like this:


‘Ghetto culture’ doesn’t lead teens astray, U-M study finds


The vast majority of teens from disadvantaged neighborhoods have ideals as high as their more privileged peers about sexual behavior and romantic relationships, a University of Michigan study shows.

"My findings suggest that there's no such thing as a monolithic ghetto culture that promotes early sexual behavior and childbearing," said U-M sociologist David Harding. "In fact, teens who live in disadvantaged, urban areas start out with hopes as high as anyone else's in our society. But the mixed messages they receive make them less likely to realize their ideal relationships."

 

[Bass v 2.0]

yea dude.. from the NO SNITCHING to gangster thug wannabes and the ACTUAL BLACK KILLER THUGS to the baby mammas there sure is no black ghetto culture!



2 pac, motherfucker. More ghetto blacks idolize him than Clerence Thomas. If 2 pac wasn't a thug I've got some music for you to listen to.

Post the studies jackass or shut up, by the same retard logic you use about 2 pac and blacks the bass could say the same about Eminem and white kids, so whats the point? You have posted no evidence from research and studies that a black ghetto culture exists. let alone most of the 40.9 millions Aframs partake of such a culture.

EMINEM IS A DIRECT EMULATION OF BLACK CULTURE YOU DUMMY!




who the FUCK do you think put Eminem in the studio?

No, it was these guys

Dr Dre did Eminems beats, he didn't write his lyrics jackass and Eminem was already rapping before he met Dre.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

More Shogun BS refuted:


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21dP7W6nimM]YouTube - Are there More Black Men in Jail or In College ?[/ame][/QUOTE]

 

[Shogun]

a YOUTUBE video?




something has been refuted alright.

 

[Shogun]

Post the studies jackass or shut up, by the same retard logic you use about 2 pac and blacks the bass could say the same about Eminem and white kids, so whats the point? You have posted no evidence from research and studies that a black ghetto culture exists. let alone most of the 40.9 millions Aframs partake of such a culture.

EMINEM IS A DIRECT EMULATION OF BLACK CULTURE YOU DUMMY!




who the FUCK do you think put Eminem in the studio?

No, it was these guys

Dr Dre did Eminems beats, he didn't write his lyrics jackass and Eminem was already rapping before he met Dre.

*sigh*


Aftermath Entertainment is an American record label founded by Dr. Dre.
Aftermath Entertainment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

After being signed to Aftermath Entertainment/Interscope Records in 1998, Eminem released in 1999 his first major studio album, The Slim Shady LP, heavily based on the production by Dr. Dre.
Eminem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Guilty Conscience" marked the beginning of the powerful friendship and musical bond that Dr. Dre and Eminem would share. The two label-mates would later collaborate on a line of hit songs, including "Forgot About Dre" and "What's the Difference" from Dr. Dre's album 2001, "Bitch Please II" from The Marshall Mathers LP, "Say What You Say" from The Eminem Show and "Encore/Curtains Down" from Encore. Thus, Dr. Dre would go on to make at least one guest appearance on all of Eminem's studio albums under the label Aftermath.[19]

Someday, dude.. I hope you figure out how to talk about shit that you know about rather than blame whitey.

 

[eots]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfaj_wc2AVs]YouTube - Trailer Park Boys - J-Roc Music Video[/ame]

 

[eots]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kUgL67eZsY]YouTube - straight outta locash CB4 - chris rock[/ame]

 

[Bass v 2.0]

a YOUTUBE video?




something has been refuted alright.

You were refuted about your ghetto culture dribble and Eminem is not an emulation of black culture, evidence for this? When one compares college age blacks in prison to those in college[black men who have been in jail for years and are far beyond college age cannot and should not be used] There are more college age black men in college than in prison

 

[Bass v 2.0]

Someday, dude.. I hope you figure out how to talk about shit that you know about rather than blame whitey.

Blame? You're the faggot blaming Dre for Eminem's lyrics and blaming blacks for Eminem's behavior, will the real scapegoat please stand up? You do know who owns Interscope, right?

 

[Shogun]

a YOUTUBE video?




something has been refuted alright.

You were refuted about your ghetto culture dribble and Eminem is not an emulation of black culture, evidence for this? When one compares college age blacks in prison to those in college[black men who have been in jail for years and are far beyond college age cannot and should not be used] There are more college age black men in college than in prison

you are starting to make me think that they are right when they say you are a white dude just saying dumb shit to cause poeple to laugh at blacks. seriously.


and, if you don't think Eminem is an emulation of black culture then you must also think that Elvis wasn't an emulation either... But, we all know how you switch feet on that one.

 

[Shogun]

Someday, dude.. I hope you figure out how to talk about shit that you know about rather than blame whitey.

Blame? You're the faggot blaming Dre for Eminem's lyrics and blaming blacks for Eminem's behavior, will the real scapegoat please stand up? You do know who owns Interscope, right?

interscope was created by dr dre. You know, the guy whose own origins was NWA and nothing more than a black ghetto gang banging album that glorified 90s compton culture. I don't care how many white dudes you gotta blame, dude.. the facts keeps kicking your silliness right in the balls.

 

[Ravi]

We ALL know why more blacks are in prison than college

We do?

I don't know why that is, if it is true. Share.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

a YOUTUBE video?




something has been refuted alright.

You were refuted about your ghetto culture dribble and Eminem is not an emulation of black culture, evidence for this? When one compares college age blacks in prison to those in college[black men who have been in jail for years and are far beyond college age cannot and should not be used] There are more college age black men in college than in prison

Monkey, Elvis, Eminem, and all white artists who do and perform black music are *NOT* culturally black you jackass, neither are the white owned record labels that cater to black music.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

Someday, dude.. I hope you figure out how to talk about shit that you know about rather than blame whitey.

Blame? You're the faggot blaming Dre for Eminem's lyrics and blaming blacks for Eminem's behavior, will the real scapegoat please stand up? You do know who owns Interscope, right?

interscope was created by dr dre.

Interscope created by Dre? Are you that damn retarded?

Interscope Records - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Beginnings

It was formed in 1990 by Jimmy Iovine and Ted Field with financial support from Atlantic Records (which owned a 53% stock in the label). Upon its creation, it was initially distributed by Atlantic Records' subsidiary East West Records America. A&R Executive John McClain and producer Beau Hill were also part of the original founding team.

You know, the guy whose own origins was NWA and nothing more than a black ghetto gang banging album that glorified 90s compton culture.

Dr Dre's origins are with the World Class Wrecking Crew, not NWA which came later you pathetic monkey and gangbanging is not a culturally black thing.