Ann Romney: 'Going to be cuts made to a lot of programs people aren't going to like'

For all you wingnuts who try to falsely blame Obama for the national debt, deficits and economy, I invite you to please give us an accounting of the debt that Obama has added - that wasn't a direct or indirect result of Bush actions. The Bush debt clock didn't just stop on the day Obama was sworn in. Let me give you some starting tips: TWO wars that Bush kept OFF budget that Obama keeps ON budget and the Bush tax cuts. In short, Bush-era policies are still driving the numbers.

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I'm still waiting for you wingnut geniuses to give us an accounting of the debt that Obama has added - that wasn't a direct or indirect result of Bush actions. Waiting...

hey Lakunta.....when can people start blaming Obama for the stuff he is responsible for doing?.....just thought i would ask....
 
The Romney-Ryan plan. Cut as many programs for the needy as possible. Delete MediCare and MediAid, steal all that is left in the SS fund. Reduce the taxes on the very wealthy to zero. Then blame the ensueing Depression on the liberals.

Because the plans of the GOP will result in the Second Great Republican Depression.

because we all know Democrats have never touched SS right Rocks?....out here Gov.Brown has cut many programs for the needy too.....maybe these Politicians are more alike than you want to admit....
 
Social Security has been tuned and tweaked several times since its creation. It just needs some more tuning and tweaking - not VOUCHERS. Vouchercare is not what American want.
 
There are going to be cuts, people aren't going to like them. That's a fact. Even if Obama wins, by year 2, there will be cuts. He won't like them, neither will those effected. That is a fact. It's unavoidable, regardless of who wins.

I agree, there will be cuts.

And there will probably be tax increases no matter who wins.

But then it becomes a question of why you are making cuts and who is effected by them.

I have no problem trimming the growth of medicare to ensure it is there in 15 years when I'm going to need it.

I have a huge problem with gutting it and turning it into an inadquate voucher plan so that a few rich people can get even more tax breaks.

I agree w/ you. Repubs never liked it anyway. They say they want to "save it" but what they mean is they want it to be a mere shadow of its former self.

It is kind of like Colonel Sanders suddenly developing a concern for the welfare of Chickens...
 
But they won't touch Ann 188,000 dollar tax write off for her Olympic ballarina horse.
But they will cut out the mortgage deduction for millions of tax payers.

business expense...if you owned the Horse you would be doing the same dam thing....

Except it's not realy a business. That dressage horse is not bringing in any money.

It's really more of a hobby.
 
But they won't touch Ann 188,000 dollar tax write off for her Olympic ballarina horse.
But they will cut out the mortgage deduction for millions of tax payers.

business expense...if you owned the Horse you would be doing the same dam thing....

Except it's not realy a business. That dressage horse is not bringing in any money.

It's really more of a hobby.

right and unless they make a buck or two breeding them....so what about Moons statement about a 188,000 dollar write off?.....i looked it up and Bloomberg business said the Romneys have not been able to write off anything YET except 50 bucks....here is what they said.....


In 2010, the only complete year of tax returns that the Romneys have released publicly, the couple was able to deduct only $50 of more than $77,000 in losses related to the horse business. When they can turn the losses into future deductions depends in part on whether and when their horse business becomes profitable.


so Moon care to explain what you said?.....
 

You know what's interesting about your little poster there? It appears to forget ALL of Obamacare's many mandates. :lmao:

The guy telling women what their "healthcare choices" are going to be is... ta dah!... Barack Obama. They're told to buy the government-approved policy or face tax penalties. They're told to buy it even if they have moral or religious objections to it. They're told what kind of policies are acceptable and what aren't. They're told that their medical records will include such vital statistics as BMI, and be electronically available by 2014 to the federal government for Comparative Effectiveness Research. So much for the Right to Privacy which underlines Roe v. Wade, huh?

I actually think that Democrats are going to find that there is much more to American Women than they think, and that Abortion isn't the defining issue they believe it is. :eusa_whistle:
 
Yeah right. Obama and the Dumbos in Congress would rather see another credit downgrade then cut things they won't like to cut (welfare).

Welfare, as of 2000, is 1.7% of the ENTIRE FEDERAL BUDGET, asswipe.

You can't continue to try to balance the whole household budget by ever cheaper brands of kitty litter and toilet paper. Sooner or later the champagne and caviar has to go.

booze and cigs are something people on welfare always seem to be able to afford

lol, which if nothing else proves that poor people pay federal taxes.:lol:
 
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It is like a bad dream come true, Ann Romney explaining the policies that will be put in place, should her husband win the election in November. There’s going to be cuts, in programs and people won’t like it.

Why on earth would the wife of a so-called experienced businessman, who claims he has a reputation for creating jobs when in reality he outsourced them to China, be speaking to American families and digging in the knife?

Why would Ann Romney love rubbing salt in the wounds of many bankrupt Americans, many homeless Americans, the jobless, the disabled and the elderly in an almost boastful fashion say this to “you people”?

More: Ann Romney There’s Going to Be Cuts -People Aren’t Going to Like | Politicol Commentary News


You guys have a Problem with Math it seems. She is Right, It is inevitable, We can not sustain this Pace, Painful Cuts will be a reality.

I love your Reaction is to attack her for Pointing out a Mathematically Reality.
 
business expense...if you owned the Horse you would be doing the same dam thing....

Except it's not realy a business. That dressage horse is not bringing in any money.

It's really more of a hobby.

right and unless they make a buck or two breeding them....so what about Moons statement about a 188,000 dollar write off?.....i looked it up and Bloomberg business said the Romneys have not been able to write off anything YET except 50 bucks....here is what they said.....


In 2010, the only complete year of tax returns that the Romneys have released publicly, the couple was able to deduct only $50 of more than $77,000 in losses related to the horse business. When they can turn the losses into future deductions depends in part on whether and when their horse business becomes profitable.


so Moon care to explain what you said?.....
That was already pointed out to him in the first thread created on this subject but of course he is going to leave out the facts.

Bigots will be bigots….
 
AGAIN PEOPLE, OBAMA PLEDGED not to raise your TAXES and he LIED to you and did it as soon as he BECAME PRESIDENT
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"One of President Barack Obama's campaign pledges on taxes went up in puffs of smoke Wednesday.

"The largest increase in tobacco taxes took effect despite Obama's promise not to raise taxes of any kind on families earning under $250,000 or individuals under $200,000.

"This is one tax that disproportionately affects the poor, who are more likely to smoke than the rich."

Obama's no-taxes pledge was most often made in the context of income taxes. But consider this: "'I can make a firm pledge,' he said in Dover, N.H., on Sept. 12. 'Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes.'...

the rest at
White House Watch - Obama's Tax on the (Smoking) Non-Rich

Yes, he did - and it REALLY pissed me off. I can afford my smokes, but that's not the point. Tobacco taxes are used for just about everything - EXCEPT smokers' healthcare.

True story. Buuuut, poor people and smart people (but that turns out to be redundant, as necessity becomes the mother of invention) get around that one without driving to the reservations.

Cigar cut tobacco isn't charged the same rate of tax, and its merely a longer cut of tobacco...it rolls the same. There are the little plastic rollers that don't cost the earth, but we broke down and bought an electric machine. A large bag of pipe cut tobacco and including the cost of tubes works out to be about .75 cents a pack.
 
AGAIN PEOPLE, OBAMA PLEDGED not to raise your TAXES and he LIED to you and did it as soon as he BECAME PRESIDENT
--------------------------------
"One of President Barack Obama's campaign pledges on taxes went up in puffs of smoke Wednesday.

"The largest increase in tobacco taxes took effect despite Obama's promise not to raise taxes of any kind on families earning under $250,000 or individuals under $200,000.

"This is one tax that disproportionately affects the poor, who are more likely to smoke than the rich."

Obama's no-taxes pledge was most often made in the context of income taxes. But consider this: "'I can make a firm pledge,' he said in Dover, N.H., on Sept. 12. 'Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes.'...

the rest at
White House Watch - Obama's Tax on the (Smoking) Non-Rich

Yes, he did - and it REALLY pissed me off. I can afford my smokes, but that's not the point. Tobacco taxes are used for just about everything - EXCEPT smokers' healthcare.

True story. Buuuut, poor people and smart people (but that turns out to be redundant, as necessity becomes the mother of invention) get around that one without driving to the reservations.

Cigar cut tobacco isn't charged the same rate of tax, and its merely a longer cut of tobacco...it rolls the same. There are the little plastic rollers that don't cost the earth, but we broke down and bought an electric machine. A large bag of pipe cut tobacco and including the cost of tubes works out to be about .75 cents a pack.

Thanks for the info.
 
What "cuts" are the Romney's going to make??? I think it's rather pompous of the Romney's to sit in judgement of what the rest of us are going to have to deal with.
 
Why, because she is telling the truth? There ARE going to be cuts in programs that people will not like, PERIOD. It does not matter who wins. Our financial future cannot exist on this current path by the rosiest estimates. I guess that you don’t actually want to hear the truth though. You would rather listen to Obama tell you that everything will be just fine if we can simply get those evil rich people to pay for everything.


Sorry, some of us are not idiots and actually want to hear the TRUTH.

Lokata has the you owe me and I'm going to get mine mentality
 
Why is there no sacrifice for the Romney's, and those like the Romney's, economically,

in these grand plans for national 'sacrifice' that Mitt Romney is proposing, and Ann Romney is dutifully endorsing?

What is the rationale for exempting the Rich from sacrifice at a time when a (sort of) national effort, requiring sacrifice, is considered necessary?
 
Faced with these 2 choices:

1. Obama imposes cost cutting reforms on Medicare and uses some of the savings towards expanding Medicaid, the program providing healthcare for poor and low income Americans, or,

2. Mitt Romney cuts Medicaid, the program providing healthcare for poor and low income Americans, and uses some of the savings to give himself a huge tax cut,

which one do you find - from an economic and a moral perspective - more defensible?
 

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