Animal Cruelty - What to do?

[nosarcasm]

mind your own business.

 

[Johnney]

not that id advocate a criminal act... ina public forum anyway, but take him. then take him to a vet in another city.
crimes against animals should be treated as crimes against a human would be.

 

[Johnney]

mind your own business.

so if it was a child that still applies?

 

[nosarcasm]

no a child is a human being, a dog or cat is just property imo.

 

[Johnney]

no a child is a human being, a dog or cat is just property imo.

that animal is the same as a kid. you provide for them, teach them and care for them. and you get into trouble if you assualt them or kill them. you get into trouble if you dont provide medical attention for them.
in many homes animals are apart of the family.

 

[nosarcasm]

Well you have to do what you feel is right, just try not to loose
your temper and do something stupid/ illegal that would get you in trouble.

I personally hate the peta argument that kids and retarded equal animals.

Abuse of animals is not cool and I would just shun the neighbor and
tell others what you think about him. But animals are in no way equal
to humans.

 

[Shattered]

mind your own business.

You're sick. "Mind your own business" is the same thing as advocating animal abuse.

Perhaps, some day, while you're getting the crap beat out of you on the street by some criminally insane jackass, someone will mind their own business.

There are some cases when an animal life is worth more than a human life.

 

[Johnney]

You're sick. "Mind your own business" is the same thing as advocating animal abuse.

Perhaps, some day, while you're getting the crap beat out of you on the street by some criminally insane jackass, someone will mind their own business.

There are some cases when an animal life is worth more than a human life.

i have to agree. if your not trying to stop crap like that, you might as well be aiding them for letting it go on and not saying anything

 

[elephant]

Pets are property, but humans are responsible for their well being. And there exist different standards for different animals. Humans come before dogs, but dogs before cattle. Why? Cattle are tasty. Dog is not and neither is horse for that matter. And I do not like squash, but others are free to kill as much squash as they like.

Ok I'm back - Humans can be punished severely for things they do wrong (death is a good example here), so can dogs.

Humans that do bad things should be held responsible for their actions. Bad dogs are usually raised to be bad animals - thus the human is again responsible. I am not sure about bad cows. I have tasted bad cows, but that is usually the chef's fault. I guess they are all punished for being so big and yummy.

Personally a puppy has never done anything to me I would consider harmful, but humans have - with malicious intent even. As such, I am more inclined to punish humans by putting them to death than I am puppies. Sadly you cannot harm your neighbor overtly because of some pesky laws that exist.

But to the point:

1) Steal the dog
2) Report your neighbor
3) (This one is the most important. Maybe I should have put it first) Do evil things to him that are difficult to trace back to you. This whole shunning crap is stupid. Is the community to have him wear a scarlet letter? NO! So here are some examples:*

- Call his work and wife and leave messages to let him know his recent gay porn order has been back ordered. Oh what a bummer! Be creative here, maybe a woman calling about his affair and love-child will have the desired effect? Really there is no limit to the fun here. Maybe he owes a pimp money? You just never know.

- Window A/C unit? A couple of bottles of cod liver oil will stink beyond most human’s comprehension and then attract vermin. Then you can call the local authorities to report smell. Trust me he will be in violation of something- something funny no doubt. Wait until the dog days of summer for this one. Everyone goes on vacation for a day or two!

- Write offensive things on his lawn with bleach. Again creativity is the key with this one. Try something very personal, his sick mother or a dead child. Do not let off him easy.

Teaching people a lesson is difficult. For the most part people are stupid, but that should not stop you from trying!

*NO ONE SHOULD EVER DO ANY OF THESE THINGS TO ANYONE. THIS IS INTENED TO BE FUNNY (and if I might say so myself, it is) AND I, elephant, IN NO WAY ENCOURAGE OR ENDORSE THESE ACTIVITIES OR ANY ACTIVITIES THAT THESE WORDS MAY INSPIRE.

 

[nosarcasm]

You're sick. "Perhaps, some day, while you're getting the crap beat out of you on the street by some criminally insane jackass, someone will mind their own business.

There are some cases when an animal life is worth more than a human life.

Why do you not type: "I hope somebody beats the crap out of you.
Youy are worth less then an animal." Thats how you feel dont you.

You are one of the animal nuts that prefer animals over humans. Probably
because they dont talk back and put you in your place.

Government my neighbor beats his dog. Government my neighbor
is a polygamist. Government my neighbour has a gun.

If you like the government running your life you really should think
about relocating to a more socialist country.

For now you worry about the animals I ll worry about the humans.

 

[elephant]

Why do you not type: "I hope somebody beats the crap out of you.
Youy are worth less then an animal." Thats how you feel dont you.

You are one of the animal nuts that prefer animals over humans. Probably
because they dont talk back and put you in your place.

Government my neighbor beats his dog. Government my neighbor
is a polygamist. Government my neighbour has a gun.

If you like the government running your life you really should think
about relocating to a more socialist country.

For now you worry about the animals I ll worry about the humans.

I like animals and people. Some animals are good for eating. Some people are good for menial labor.

There are not any puppies that deserve to be beat by anyone. Why do think that is so terrible? It is ok to like puppies - they're cute. It will not corrupt your manhood or make you less German or less conservative. It makes you compassionate or nice.

People who beat puppies, on the other hand, are sick. This is undeniable.

So it is possible to like puppies more than humans who beat puppies. At least it is for me.

As to your point about an interfering government… You have a government to stop your neighbors from shooting you when you beat puppies. You should be happy. Oh and to make sure your neighbors can own guns – lots of them.

And to the socialist country comment... Like where you live?

 

[nosarcasm]

Again I do not advocate beating puppies ot abusing any animals.
It is safe to say almost everyone agrees it is morally wrong.

I now live in Idaho. But I have lived
in Germany for a long time where you cant take out walls in your
own house without a permit. I like the west and the live and let live
philosophy.

Animals are property. While I do not abuse my cat (and while I take the abuse it accidentally dishes out) I feel
it is too intrusive if I report my neighbour for beating his dog.

As long has he does not go around tormenting other peoples animals I prefer
not to mess with neighbours.

I do not think it is terrible to care about animals, I care about mine.
I am annoyed by people that put animals above people.

I know my position gives not much protection to animals. If their
are more serious cases of animal abuses, killing or mutilating I
would maybe take action.

There was a story about a homeless guy in a german daily (BILD)
and his dog. The newspaper received 3000 $ in donation labeled
only for the dog. You see my point?

And yes I dislike some humans too still it does not put them on
a level below animals. If I have to either safe my cat or somebody
I hate out of a burning house I d go with the human. I count
on you doing the same because it would upset me if you rescue
your puppy while I turn crisp.

Guns:
While in Idaho I can own automatic weapons I am sure others in CA are not that lucky. The government limits our freedom. While some of it is a necessary evil to keep society running I personally try to keep away from
it as much as possible.

 

[Johnney]

Dog is not and neither is horse for that matter. And I do not like squash, but others are free to kill as much squash as they like.

yes they are, you just have to cook them correctly

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Damn, what a sick bastard. That was intentional assault to torture and maim a helpless animal. You were a witness who can testify to a judge about it. I would have him arrested, get the dog taken from him, and request adoption of the dog. You might talk first with the pound or an attorney for advice on what would be the best route to take for this to actually happen.

Someone needs to intervene with this sicko creep. At least put him on record if he doesn't have one already. How many has he already hurt or killed in the past? How many will he in the future? How many humans has he possibly hurt as well? People like that are dangerous. I hope he doesn't have kids. I'd also be talking to all the neighbors about him, not only to possibly get more dirt on him, but also to put them all on alert to watch out for future incidents. Who will care for the innocent in this world if we don't? It is our duty as responsible adults to do so. We need to punish those that are harming the helpless.

"God gave us dominion over the land and the animals. Genesis tells us that God said, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground" (Gen. 1:28). This means that we are to exercise leadership over the resources that God has given us.

Furthermore, Genesis 2:15 says, “The Lord God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it.” This charge was outlined right from the beginning: Take care of God’s creation."

 

[no1tovote4]

While I normally approve of the "live and let live" philosophy I will state that it can be reasoned that this person is a danger to those who live around him. One of the first signs of somebody that becomes a serial killer or rapist is the way they treat animals. At the very least this person is not fully linked to the empathy that most of us feel for those things that are living.

While we may eat cattle we never advocate torturing them their entire lives then killing them before we eat them. (Some exceptions do exist, veal for example but most find out what they do to the poor creatures and stop buying the product that is produces so offensively.)

I would prefer that evidence be gathered and the police be called to remove the person as a danger to society at large. However removing the animal would be less offensive than allowing such outrage to continue.

 

[elephant]

Did no one read my previous post? It is #29 in the thread.

Except Johnney, you seem to have a sense of humor.

 

[Shattered]

Why do you not type: "I hope somebody beats the crap out of you.
Youy are worth less then an animal." Thats how you feel dont you.

You are one of the animal nuts that prefer animals over humans. Probably
because they dont talk back and put you in your place.

Government my neighbor beats his dog. Government my neighbor
is a polygamist. Government my neighbour has a gun.

If you like the government running your life you really should think
about relocating to a more socialist country.

For now you worry about the animals I ll worry about the humans.

Even your dog would try to protect you if someone were beating the crap out of you.. You, on the other hand, would just let someone beat the crap out of the dog.. Yeah, that makes you sick, and in my mind, that makes the dog better than you.

There's a moral sense of right and wrong that *most* people are born with. You, however, seem to be lacking, and it has nothing to do with the government. You are no better than the abuser himself.

 

[nosarcasm]

I protect my property and my dog or cat.

You think you are morally superior to me. Well think again.

Thats the problem I have with the pro animal rights crowd.
They in general take a dogs life above a human.

And then they think if somebody does not agree it means
they are scum and deserve to die and they are morally superior.

While it is wrong to abuse animals your overreaction is
what proves your lack of humanity to me.

You ll give money to the dog before the homeless. Because
the dog is "innocent". And that is sickening to me.

If you really care about others people business so much you should
support efforts against starvations of humans before getting
out of shape about a dog.

 

[Shattered]

I protect my property and my dog or cat.

You think you are morally superior to me. Well think again.

Thats the problem I have with the pro animal rights crowd.
They in general take a dogs life above a human.

And then they think if somebody does not agree it means
they are scum and deserve to die and they are morally superior.

While it is wrong to abuse animals your overreaction is
what proves your lack of humanity to me.

You ll give money to the dog before the homeless. Because
the dog is "innocent". And that is sickening to me.

If you really care about others people business so much you should
support efforts against starvations of humans before getting
out of shape about a dog.

Humans can get a freakin job. Dogs can't.

(You don't wanna travel down this road, trust me.. You're *really* gonna love me.)

 

[nosarcasm]

well what stops tragedies to begin with is sterilize your cat or dog.
As I did with mine, it cuts down on the number of animals
that get gassed by the humaine society.

And dont get me wrong, I have nothing against you caring about
animals. I just have a lower upset level about it.

What really is irritating is that people feel superior for their opinions.

It is a frigging oppinion. When you talk to vegans they act like
they are gods chosen ones. And you are the devil for eating
animals.