and yet the sheep will put one of them in office

[iamwhatiseem]

one might be surprised at how many democrats are discussing this in secret....that biden cannot serve another 4 yr term...but then you have the crooked trump....can newsom rise at this late in the game....

I would take Trump or Biden over Newsom.
Newsom is systematically destroying California since the day he took office.
On every level California is in worse shape, every measure, every metric.

Why the FUCK would we want such a proven failed leader to then run the country??
Talk about insanity!!!!!

 

[pknopp]

I would take Trump or Biden over Newsom.
Newsom is systematically destroying California since the day he took office.
On every level California is in worse shape, every measure, every metric.

Why the FUCK would we want such a proven failed leader to then run the country??
Talk about insanity!!!!!

Newsome wouldn't stop me from voting third party.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Newsome wouldn't stop me from voting third party.

You couldn't do worse than Newsom... who, is exactly who they plan to sail in "just in time".
I said it earlier this year, and I will say it again - the Democrat controlled media machine will start turning up the heat against Biden late this year. They can't do it now, he is still President for another year and a half. But they will... and then they will bring in Newsome just in time to skip the debates, grant him some softball media interviews and the scum sails right into office.
If Trump is the candidate - we will have Newsome as President.

 

[Smokin' OP]

As usual, I don't see anyone running for president, I would vote FOR.
I see plenty, I would vote AGAINST.
As I have done since 1980.

 

[postman]

As usual, I don't see anyone running for president, I would vote FOR.
I see plenty, I would vote AGAINST.
As I have done since 1980.

That's because politics have become a nasty zero sum game.

 

[westwall]

This would be a great time to put a leader and visionary in office instead of the rich good ole boy back in office.

Biden doesnt even know where he is at half the time, and Trump cant shut up to save himself. These are the two front runners and both party’s are afraid to move off them, that says a lot about the corrupt two party system, it’s party before country and we fully see it right now. When will the voters take responsibility for our nation?

The vote is corrupt. The political class installs who they want. You can flood the place with ballots...but THEY get to count them.

 

[Papageorgio]

Actually I bet if the republicans dumped Trump, then the democrats would dump Biden.

But as long as the republicans hold onto Trump, the democrats will hold onto the guy who Trumped, Trump.

So you want Republicans to pick country over party and then the Democrats will follow, real genius thinking there.

 

[Papageorgio]

It's how NASA chose the outdated computers to run the space shuttle.

So, you think thinking as a stupid one is a good idea? Interesting, you do something stupid, because someone else does something stupid?

 

[Auld Phart]

Biden beat Trump when he was an incumbent president. That's happened very few times.
Only 10 times across 46 presidents.
And only one instance of a defeated ex-president returning to the white house.

so, you agree there is a precedence

 

[postman]

so, you agree there is a precedence

You'd have a better chance winning powerball

 

[Auld Phart]

You'd have a better chance winning powerball

against Biden?

it's a coin toss.

and a vote for Biden is a guaranteed Harris presidency.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

All you need to know....
Half the country will willingly vote for a candidate that is likely to literally die in office.
That is where we are.

 

[postman]

All you need to know....
Half the country will willingly vote for a candidate that is likely to literally die in office.
That is where we are.

They did that in 1944

 

[postman]

against Biden?

it's a coin toss.

and a vote for Biden is a guaranteed Harris presidency.

And who do you think Trump would pick as VP. Somebody qualified to be president, or somebody who will do as Trump says?

 

[Sixties Fan]

We can do better,

we HAVE to do better, if the country is to survive.

Biden is 'old,' Trump is 'corrupt': AP-NORC poll has ominous signs for both in possible 2024 rematch

President Joe Biden is “old” and “confused,” and former President Donald Trump is “corrupt” and “dishonest.” Unflattering portraits of Biden and Trump emerge clearly in a new poll by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research, which asked an open-ended question about what...

www.yahoo.com

"Biden's age was referenced frequently even among Democrats, 28% of whom mention it — a significantly higher percentage than those who point to the presidency or leadership (11%) or strength and capability (11%).
Trump's negative comments center not on age but on his moral standing and conduct, along with things like “loudmouth” and “angry” (6%), “crazy” and “dangerous” (6%) and “narcissist” (6%). Some 5% use words like “strong” and “capable.”
Rami Marsha, a 58-year-old CEO of a manufacturing company in Agoura Hills, California, is a registered Democrat who voted for Trump in 2016 and for Biden in 2020 — but says he'd likely leave the presidential race portion of his ballot blank if those two square off again in 2024.
“I think he might be having some dementia, and I don’t think he has the power to run the country,” Marsha said of Biden. But he was equally blunt about Trump: “I’ve had enough of him.”
That's a fairly common sentiment. The poll shows that only 24% of Americans overall want to see Biden run again, while 30% say the same about Trump — and majorities say they are reluctant to support them if they are nominated again.
Also, 62% of Americans say they have an unfavorable opinion of Trump; 52% say the same about Biden."

More at link,

This is nonsense started by the Republicans to attempt to delegitimize Biden's abilities. 80 years old or not, he is knowledgeable on how to make this country better and THAT is what people are going to vote for. His accomplishments, which are many and for all.


Keep calling him dementia man, or anything else you like. What matters in the end are the votes and the electoral college votes.


May the one with the most electoral votes win.

 

[Auld Phart]

This is nonsense started by the Republicans to attempt to delegitimize Biden's abilities. 80 years old or not, he is knowledgeable on how to make this country better and THAT is what people are going to vote for. His accomplishments, which are many and for all.


Keep calling him dementia man, or anything else you like. What matters in the end are the votes and the electoral college votes.


May the one with the most electoral votes win.

People like you are the main reason Democrats chose a jackass for a mascot.

 

[Papageorgio]

They did that in 1944

And...his wife ran the show while he was with his mistress in Florida, that is the reason they instituted term limits to prevent that from happening again.

 

[Papageorgio]

And who do you think Trump would pick as VP. Somebody qualified to be president, or somebody who will do as Trump says?

Pence was his VP and did not do what Trump said, but we should be picking better, younger talent.

 

[Mac1958]

Our current political/electoral "system" (ha) is going to keep shitting out lousy candidates as long as it's set up to bend over for the loony wings of each party.

Either we make changes in our system -- and, sadly, those same people would have to do it -- or this continues to decay.

 

[Flash]

We can do better,

we HAVE to do better, if the country is to survive.

Biden is 'old,' Trump is 'corrupt': AP-NORC poll has ominous signs for both in possible 2024 rematch

President Joe Biden is “old” and “confused,” and former President Donald Trump is “corrupt” and “dishonest.” Unflattering portraits of Biden and Trump emerge clearly in a new poll by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research, which asked an open-ended question about what...

www.yahoo.com

"Biden's age was referenced frequently even among Democrats, 28% of whom mention it — a significantly higher percentage than those who point to the presidency or leadership (11%) or strength and capability (11%).
Trump's negative comments center not on age but on his moral standing and conduct, along with things like “loudmouth” and “angry” (6%), “crazy” and “dangerous” (6%) and “narcissist” (6%). Some 5% use words like “strong” and “capable.”
Rami Marsha, a 58-year-old CEO of a manufacturing company in Agoura Hills, California, is a registered Democrat who voted for Trump in 2016 and for Biden in 2020 — but says he'd likely leave the presidential race portion of his ballot blank if those two square off again in 2024.
“I think he might be having some dementia, and I don’t think he has the power to run the country,” Marsha said of Biden. But he was equally blunt about Trump: “I’ve had enough of him.”
That's a fairly common sentiment. The poll shows that only 24% of Americans overall want to see Biden run again, while 30% say the same about Trump — and majorities say they are reluctant to support them if they are nominated again.
Also, 62% of Americans say they have an unfavorable opinion of Trump; 52% say the same about Biden."

More at link,

Trump is not corrupt. His only crime was making America great again and that pissed off the Libtards, who have an agenda to turn this country into a Socialist shithole.

Biden is the definition of corruption with his family getting filthy ass rich selling out to foreign interest.

Trump was the best President of modern times. Biden is the worst President in the history of the Republic.