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Earth's Core
How does Earth's outer core reach the temperature of 5000 degrees and remain liquid, while inner core remains solid?
The inner core may be hotter, but it is at a much higher pressure. At a fixed temperature (say 5000 degrees), high pressure can make a liquid into a solid. So, even though the temperature increases as you move into the inner core, the pressure increases faster and wins.

Dr. Eric Christian
(March 2001)



Why is Earth's Center So Hot?
Why is the center of the Earth so hot?
It's a combination of radioactivity (the radioactive materials in the Earth generate heat) and the residual heat from the formation of the Earth. When all of the matter that created the Earth fell together, it picked up kinetic energy falling in. When it stopped at the proto-Earth, the kinetic energy was turned into heat. The Earth hasn't cooled yet. The Moon, being much smaller, has had time to cool and probably has a solid core.

Dr. Eric Christian

NASA's Cosmicopia -- Ask Us -- Earth and Moon


Not so fast, that's not our science lesson, this is it:

"For several years as uneducated sycophants in the media gushed and fawned over every utterance from former Vice President Al Gore, NewsBusters has informed readers of just how absurd the junk science he's peddling really is.

Last Thursday, NBC "Tonight Show" viewers got a perfect example of how the Nobel Laureate basically makes things up, and that his poor grades in college were quite an indicator of just how little he understands about science.

So egregious was his departure from reality that the following clip should be mandatory viewing for all his fans in the media who seem to be just as scientifically-challenged (video embedded below the fold with partial transcript, h/t Hot Air):

Al Gore: Earth’s Interior ‘Extremely Hot, Several Million Degrees’ | OutloudOpinion


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Earth's Core
How does Earth's outer core reach the temperature of 5000 degrees and remain liquid, while inner core remains solid?
The inner core may be hotter, but it is at a much higher pressure. At a fixed temperature (say 5000 degrees), high pressure can make a liquid into a solid. So, even though the temperature increases as you move into the inner core, the pressure increases faster and wins.

Dr. Eric Christian
(March 2001)



Why is Earth's Center So Hot?
Why is the center of the Earth so hot?
It's a combination of radioactivity (the radioactive materials in the Earth generate heat) and the residual heat from the formation of the Earth. When all of the matter that created the Earth fell together, it picked up kinetic energy falling in. When it stopped at the proto-Earth, the kinetic energy was turned into heat. The Earth hasn't cooled yet. The Moon, being much smaller, has had time to cool and probably has a solid core.

Dr. Eric Christian

NASA's Cosmicopia -- Ask Us -- Earth and Moon


Not so fast, that's not our science lesson, this is it:

"For several years as uneducated sycophants in the media gushed and fawned over every utterance from former Vice President Al Gore, NewsBusters has informed readers of just how absurd the junk science he's peddling really is.

Last Thursday, NBC "Tonight Show" viewers got a perfect example of how the Nobel Laureate basically makes things up, and that his poor grades in college were quite an indicator of just how little he understands about science.

So egregious was his departure from reality that the following clip should be mandatory viewing for all his fans in the media who seem to be just as scientifically-challenged (video embedded below the fold with partial transcript, h/t Hot Air):

Al Gore: Earth&#8217;s Interior &#8216;Extremely Hot, Several Million Degrees&#8217; | OutloudOpinion


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Geothermal power is generated by heat trapped in the earth. Currently less than one percent of power is generated from geothermal energy but the potential is unlimited and more economically viable given new drilling techniques.

Yes, by all means we should ignore the unlimited potential of geothermal energy because Al Gore doesn't know how hot the earths core is. I guess you were giving us a lesson in conservative logic...
 
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Earth's Core
How does Earth's outer core reach the temperature of 5000 degrees and remain liquid, while inner core remains solid?
The inner core may be hotter, but it is at a much higher pressure. At a fixed temperature (say 5000 degrees), high pressure can make a liquid into a solid. So, even though the temperature increases as you move into the inner core, the pressure increases faster and wins.

Dr. Eric Christian
(March 2001)



Why is Earth's Center So Hot?
Why is the center of the Earth so hot?
It's a combination of radioactivity (the radioactive materials in the Earth generate heat) and the residual heat from the formation of the Earth. When all of the matter that created the Earth fell together, it picked up kinetic energy falling in. When it stopped at the proto-Earth, the kinetic energy was turned into heat. The Earth hasn't cooled yet. The Moon, being much smaller, has had time to cool and probably has a solid core.

Dr. Eric Christian

NASA's Cosmicopia -- Ask Us -- Earth and Moon


Not so fast, that's not our science lesson, this is it:

"For several years as uneducated sycophants in the media gushed and fawned over every utterance from former Vice President Al Gore, NewsBusters has informed readers of just how absurd the junk science he's peddling really is.

Last Thursday, NBC "Tonight Show" viewers got a perfect example of how the Nobel Laureate basically makes things up, and that his poor grades in college were quite an indicator of just how little he understands about science.

So egregious was his departure from reality that the following clip should be mandatory viewing for all his fans in the media who seem to be just as scientifically-challenged (video embedded below the fold with partial transcript, h/t Hot Air):

Al Gore: Earth’s Interior ‘Extremely Hot, Several Million Degrees’ | OutloudOpinion


[youtube]<object width="560" height="340"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Ns_4pzfOSTc&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Ns_4pzfOSTc&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object>[/youtube]

Geothermal power is generated by heat trapped in the earth. Currently less than one percent of power is generated from geothermal energy but the potential is unlimited and more economically viable given new drilling techniques.

Yes, by all means we should ignore the unlimited potential of geothermal energy because Al Gore doesn't know how hot the earths core is. I guess you were giving us a lesson in conservative logic...

Kinda' hit a sore spot, huh?

Perhaps you better take down the Al Gore Shrine, and the personally autographed pics of Old Rock and Chris.
 
Earth's Core
How does Earth's outer core reach the temperature of 5000 degrees and remain liquid, while inner core remains solid?
The inner core may be hotter, but it is at a much higher pressure. At a fixed temperature (say 5000 degrees), high pressure can make a liquid into a solid. So, even though the temperature increases as you move into the inner core, the pressure increases faster and wins.

Dr. Eric Christian
(March 2001)



Why is Earth's Center So Hot?
Why is the center of the Earth so hot?
It's a combination of radioactivity (the radioactive materials in the Earth generate heat) and the residual heat from the formation of the Earth. When all of the matter that created the Earth fell together, it picked up kinetic energy falling in. When it stopped at the proto-Earth, the kinetic energy was turned into heat. The Earth hasn't cooled yet. The Moon, being much smaller, has had time to cool and probably has a solid core.

Dr. Eric Christian

NASA's Cosmicopia -- Ask Us -- Earth and Moon


Not so fast, that's not our science lesson, this is it:

"For several years as uneducated sycophants in the media gushed and fawned over every utterance from former Vice President Al Gore, NewsBusters has informed readers of just how absurd the junk science he's peddling really is.

Last Thursday, NBC "Tonight Show" viewers got a perfect example of how the Nobel Laureate basically makes things up, and that his poor grades in college were quite an indicator of just how little he understands about science.

So egregious was his departure from reality that the following clip should be mandatory viewing for all his fans in the media who seem to be just as scientifically-challenged (video embedded below the fold with partial transcript, h/t Hot Air):

Al Gore: Earth’s Interior ‘Extremely Hot, Several Million Degrees’ | OutloudOpinion


[youtube]<object width="560" height="340"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Ns_4pzfOSTc&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Ns_4pzfOSTc&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object>[/youtube]

Geothermal power is generated by heat trapped in the earth. Currently less than one percent of power is generated from geothermal energy but the potential is unlimited and more economically viable given new drilling techniques.

Yes, by all means we should ignore the unlimited potential of geothermal energy because Al Gore doesn't know how hot the earths core is. I guess you were giving us a lesson in conservative logic...

Kinda' hit a sore spot, huh?

Perhaps you better take down the Al Gore Shrine, and the personally autographed pics of Old Rock and Chris.

You didn't answer the question. Should we ignore geothermal power because Gore doesn't know how hot the earths core is? You can answer yes or no. That should be simple enough...even for a conservative.
 
Geothermal power is generated by heat trapped in the earth. Currently less than one percent of power is generated from geothermal energy but the potential is unlimited and more economically viable given new drilling techniques.

Perhaps you could give the numbers in terms of cost to build, cost to maintain, operational lifetime and energy output expected. If they add up as you seem to think then the energy companies, remember they are not regulated anymore, should be jumping on this as fast as they can.
The mighty dollar may have fallen, but the capitalists still chase it.
However, they only chase it where it can be found, and their failure to chase geothermal is a pretty clear indication it's not as viable as you believe.
 
Wow, you're so smart.

I have questions.

For which scientific field was Gore awarded the Nobel Prize?

Exactly how old was the earth when God "shimmered" people into being from dirt?
 
Perhaps you could give the numbers in terms of cost to build, cost to maintain, operational lifetime and energy output expected. If they add up as you seem to think then the energy companies, remember they are not regulated anymore, should be jumping on this as fast as they can.
The mighty dollar may have fallen, but the capitalists still chase it.
However, they only chase it where it can be found, and their failure to chase geothermal is a pretty clear indication it's not as viable as you believe.

One of the drawbacks of geothermal energy is that it tends to generate earthquakes:

Geothermal Power Plant Triggers Earthquake in Switzerland : TreeHugger

Poking a hole in a motile crust is always risky. Remember, the earth was once quite volatile, so we don't want to push it.

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Geothermal power is generated by heat trapped in the earth. Currently less than one percent of power is generated from geothermal energy but the potential is unlimited and more economically viable given new drilling techniques.

Yes, by all means we should ignore the unlimited potential of geothermal energy because Al Gore doesn't know how hot the earths core is. I guess you were giving us a lesson in conservative logic...

Kinda' hit a sore spot, huh?

Perhaps you better take down the Al Gore Shrine, and the personally autographed pics of Old Rock and Chris.

You didn't answer the question. Should we ignore geothermal power because Gore doesn't know how hot the earths core is? You can answer yes or no. That should be simple enough...even for a conservative.

I should always remember that folks like you have to be spoon-fed, teaspoon by teaspoon.

You see, Al "Failed Out of College" Gore is the Prime Mover of the Global Governance Scam.

It was in all the papers, didn't ya see it?

So, it's more than passing humorous that the Pied Piper of Global Governance doesn't know anything about science.

Get it? Got it? Good!

And what's even funnier is that folks like you get bent out of shape when Gore thinks he's living on a body closer in temperature to the Sun- and you don't see the humor!


OK, maybe that one doesn't play well in your schoolyard. Try this:

Did you hear that the federal government is sending a manned mission to land on the Sun to study it?

Burned up? No...

They're going at night!
 
According to MIT, the future for geo-thermal is pretty bright.

MIT-led panel backs 'heat mining' as key U.S. energy source


According to panel member M. Nafi Toksöz, professor of geophysics at MIT, "geothermal energy could play an important role in our national energy picture as a non-carbon-based energy source. It's a very large resource and has the potential to be a significant contributor to the energy needs of this country."

Toksöz added that the electricity produced annually by geothermal energy systems now in use in the United States at sites in California, Hawaii, Utah and Nevada is comparable to that produced by solar and wind power combined. And the potential is far greater still, since hot rocks below the surface are available in most parts of the United States.

Even in the most promising areas, however, drilling must reach depths of 5,000 feet or more in the west, and much deeper in the eastern United States. Still, "the possibility of drilling into these rocks, fracturing them and pumping water in to produce steam has already been shown to be feasible," Toksöz said.
 
Wow, you're so smart.

I have questions.

For which scientific field was Gore awarded the Nobel Prize?

Exactly how old was the earth when God "shimmered" people into being from dirt?


Gore was awarded the Nobel Prize for Peace. Same prize Obama got. Both received it for doing nothing at all related peace or anything else for that matter.

Demonstrated ability to open Cracker Jacks and find prize?

Best guess estimate on the shimmering time was sometime before the advent of the divergance of the lines that led to the human and Chimp development. Probably about the same number of years as the number of angels that can dance on a the head of pin. Probably as relevant to anything as that, also.
 
Kinda' hit a sore spot, huh?

Perhaps you better take down the Al Gore Shrine, and the personally autographed pics of Old Rock and Chris.

You didn't answer the question. Should we ignore geothermal power because Gore doesn't know how hot the earths core is? You can answer yes or no. That should be simple enough...even for a conservative.

I should always remember that folks like you have to be spoon-fed, teaspoon by teaspoon.

You see, Al "Failed Out of College" Gore is the Prime Mover of the Global Governance Scam.

It was in all the papers, didn't ya see it?

So, it's more than passing humorous that the Pied Piper of Global Governance doesn't know anything about science.

Get it? Got it? Good!

And what's even funnier is that folks like you get bent out of shape when Gore thinks he's living on a body closer in temperature to the Sun- and you don't see the humor!


OK, maybe that one doesn't play well in your schoolyard. Try this:

Did you hear that the federal government is sending a manned mission to land on the Sun to study it?

Burned up? No...

They're going at night!


Pretty damned stupid PC. You and PI are very similiar in your ability to ignore the obvious. Al Gore, a politician and successful investor, did not know the temperature of the earth's core. So what? He never has stated that he was a scientist. What he has stated is that he put scientists concerns over Global warming into layman's terms, and did so pretty damned well.

I really don't care about Gore's grades in college. So he acted like a rich man's son, as so many like him did. His acheivements since that time have proven his intellect, unlike his opponent of 2000.

Your own ignorance on science has always been apparent. So why are you casting stones?
 
Wow, you're so smart.

I have questions.

For which scientific field was Gore awarded the Nobel Prize?

Exactly how old was the earth when God "shimmered" people into being from dirt?

Deanie-Weenie, one day when you grow up, I'll explain to you about politics, and how things aren't always fair.

And then, you'll probably kick your feet, and frown that cute little frown, and say things like "Bad Nobel Prize..."

"Why do people have to be like that???"

And the adults will pat you on the head and try to console you, and say "Sorry, weenie,but you have to grow up sometime."

And we'll all shed a tear.

And I'll have to search for another as comic relief.
 
Wow, you're so smart.

I have questions.

For which scientific field was Gore awarded the Nobel Prize?

Exactly how old was the earth when God "shimmered" people into being from dirt?


Gore was awarded the Nobel Prize for Peace. Same prize Obama got. Both received it for doing nothing at all related peace or anything else for that matter.

Demonstrated ability to open Cracker Jacks and find prize?

Best guess estimate on the shimmering time was sometime before the advent of the divergance of the lines that led to the human and Chimp development. Probably about the same number of years as the number of angels that can dance on a the head of pin. Probably as relevant to anything as that, also.

LOL. Torques you jaws that Gore is a success in business, and a success as a lecturer on the dangers in the ongoing AGW.

Yes, Gore has been a very successful businessman. Made a bundle of money in the hi-tech market when that market was on a downer.

Took a lecture on an unpopular subject, and became an international celebrity giving that lecture.

Then made it into a movie and won multiple awards. And won the Nobel for presenting the information worldwide, and raising awareness of the problems that are developing right now.

And proved he is a better capitalist than all of his detractors.
 
Wow, you're so smart.

I have questions.

For which scientific field was Gore awarded the Nobel Prize?

Exactly how old was the earth when God "shimmered" people into being from dirt?

Deanie-Weenie, one day when you grow up, I'll explain to you about politics, and how things aren't always fair.

And then, you'll probably kick your feet, and frown that cute little frown, and say things like "Bad Nobel Prize..."

"Why do people have to be like that???"

And the adults will pat you on the head and try to console you, and say "Sorry, weenie,but you have to grow up sometime."

And we'll all shed a tear.

And I'll have to search for another as comic relief.

:eusa_boohoo:
 
You didn't answer the question. Should we ignore geothermal power because Gore doesn't know how hot the earths core is? You can answer yes or no. That should be simple enough...even for a conservative.

I should always remember that folks like you have to be spoon-fed, teaspoon by teaspoon.

You see, Al "Failed Out of College" Gore is the Prime Mover of the Global Governance Scam.

It was in all the papers, didn't ya see it?

So, it's more than passing humorous that the Pied Piper of Global Governance doesn't know anything about science.

Get it? Got it? Good!

And what's even funnier is that folks like you get bent out of shape when Gore thinks he's living on a body closer in temperature to the Sun- and you don't see the humor!


OK, maybe that one doesn't play well in your schoolyard. Try this:

Did you hear that the federal government is sending a manned mission to land on the Sun to study it?

Burned up? No...

They're going at night!


Pretty damned stupid PC. You and PI are very similiar in your ability to ignore the obvious. Al Gore, a politician and successful investor, did not know the temperature of the earth's core. So what? He never has stated that he was a scientist. What he has stated is that he put scientists concerns over Global warming into layman's terms, and did so pretty damned well.

I really don't care about Gore's grades in college. So he acted like a rich man's son, as so many like him did. His acheivements since that time have proven his intellect, unlike his opponent of 2000.

Your own ignorance on science has always been apparent. So why are you casting stones?

Oh, no.

Another round of whack-a-mole!

"...proven his intellect..."

"After enrolling in Vanderbilt’s prestigious divinity school, over the course of three semesters, he failed five of his eight classes. Gore’s allies claim that the birth of his first child and his duties as a reporter at the Tennessean newspaper kept him from his studies. For the record, though, Gore also later dropped out of Vanderbilt’s law school (in 1976), ..."
mental_floss Blog » 5 Surprising Divinity School Dropouts



"...proven his intellect..."
"But Al Gore refuses to debate those who say global warming is not a crisis.

Maybe it’s because climate alarmists tend to lose when they debate climate realists. Or because most scientists do not support climate alarmism.

Dennis Avery, coauthor of the best-selling book Unstoppable Global Warming: Every 1,500 Years, is still waiting for Gore to respond to his April 16 formal debate challenge:

[Our two] books represent the two leading explanations for the earth’s recent temperature changes—and they conflict. If global warming truly is the most important public policy issue of our day, then it is high time the public got to hear the arguments from both sides matched up against each other. How else can people make informed decisions? Therefore, I formally challenge you to debate me at a public event, preferably to be televised or carried by a radio station, sometime in the coming months."

Why Won’t Al Gore Debate? - by Joseph L. Bast - News Releases




"...proven his intellect..."
"How telling it is he runs away from open honest debate. How telling indeed.

In 2007 Lord Monckton a former policy adviser to Margaret Thatcher challenged Al Gore to “an internationally televised, head-to-head, nation-unto-nation confrontation on the question, “That our effect on climate is not dangerous.”


Al Gore afraid of debate prefers to hide under his desk instead
Monckton calls on the former Vice President to “step up to the plate and defend his advocacy of policies that could do grave harm to the welfare of the world’s poor. If Mr. Gore really believes global warming is the defining issue of our time, the greatest threat human civilization has ever faced, and then he should welcome the opportunity to raise the profile of the issue before a worldwide audience of billions by defining and defending his claims against a serious, science-based challenge”.


Now I get it, Rocks!

Many folks are enamored with those superior to themselves- you know, like you and Al Gore.
 
Just curious, if the temperature at the sun's surface is 5 thousand degrees and the temperature above the surface is more than a million degrees. How can heat move from where it's cooler to where it's hotter? Wouldn't it move from where it's hotter to where it's cooler?
 

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