Anarchism

[Wry Catcher]

a doctrine that advocates the abolition of organized authority. Anarchists believe that all government is corrupt and evil. Anarchism was a force in nineteenth century Russia, associated with Prince Peter Kropotkin (1842-1921) and Mikhail Bakunin (1814-76). Types of anarchism range from pacifism to violent revolution. American President William McKinley was assassinated by anarchists in 1901. However, anarchism has in general not been a prominent force in American political history. ("Anarchism- a doctrine that advocates the abolition of organized authority. Anarchists believe that not only is all government corrupt and evil, but also that any institution based on hierarchy or power is equally corrupt (e.g., religion, the family, etc.) While most often anti-capitalist, there are pro-capitalist strains. Anarchist theory was developed in 19th century Europe, largely by the Russians Prince Peter Kropotkin (1842-1921) and Mikhail Bakunin (1841-76) and the Frenchman Pierre-Joseph Proudhon. (1809-1865).

 

[Wry Catcher]

What is the purpose of government?

 

[Tom Clancy]

"The purpose of government is to enable the people of a nation to live in safety and happiness. Government exists for the interests of the governed, not for the governors."
— Thomas Jefferson

 

[Oddball]

a doctrine that advocates the abolition of organized authority. Anarchists believe that all government is corrupt and evil. Anarchism was a force in nineteenth century Russia, associated with Prince Peter Kropotkin (1842-1921) and Mikhail Bakunin (1814-76). Types of anarchism range from pacifism to violent revolution. American President William McKinley was assassinated by anarchists in 1901. However, anarchism has in general not been a prominent force in American political history. ("Anarchism- a doctrine that advocates the abolition of organized authority. Anarchists believe that not only is all government corrupt and evil, but also that any institution based on hierarchy or power is equally corrupt (e.g., religion, the family, etc.) While most often anti-capitalist, there are pro-capitalist strains. Anarchist theory was developed in 19th century Europe, largely by the Russians Prince Peter Kropotkin (1842-1921) and Mikhail Bakunin (1841-76) and the Frenchman Pierre-Joseph Proudhon. (1809-1865).

That's your story, buster.

Right now, America is suffering under anarchy via excessive bureaucracy.

Doesn't mater what the rules and the laws are, the ruling class just snorts; "Like it or lump it...And if you don't like it and don't want to lump it, sue us".

In the world of practical application, there's no better road to real anarchy than the over-reaching, overbearing and unaccountable central authoritarian structure for which you are an unabashed apologist.

You've met the enemy, Francis, and he is ye.

 

[zzzz]

Anarchy leads to dictatorship. Human beings instinctively need someone in charge. Whether it be one person or a group of people it always happens when 2 or more people get together. Someone always takes charge or nothing happens. And when one person or group takes charge it is a form of government and therefore by definition anarchy ceases to exist.

 

[Wry Catcher]

a doctrine that advocates the abolition of organized authority. Anarchists believe that all government is corrupt and evil. Anarchism was a force in nineteenth century Russia, associated with Prince Peter Kropotkin (1842-1921) and Mikhail Bakunin (1814-76). Types of anarchism range from pacifism to violent revolution. American President William McKinley was assassinated by anarchists in 1901. However, anarchism has in general not been a prominent force in American political history. ("Anarchism- a doctrine that advocates the abolition of organized authority. Anarchists believe that not only is all government corrupt and evil, but also that any institution based on hierarchy or power is equally corrupt (e.g., religion, the family, etc.) While most often anti-capitalist, there are pro-capitalist strains. Anarchist theory was developed in 19th century Europe, largely by the Russians Prince Peter Kropotkin (1842-1921) and Mikhail Bakunin (1841-76) and the Frenchman Pierre-Joseph Proudhon. (1809-1865).

That's your story, buster.

Right now, America is suffering under anarchy via excessive bureaucracy.

Doesn't mater what the rules and the laws are, the ruling class just snorts; "Like it or lump it...And if you don't like it and don't want to lump it, sue us".

In the world of practical application, there's no better road to real anarchy than the over-reaching, overbearing and unaccountable central authoritarian structure for which you are an unabashed apologist.

You've met the enemy, Francis, and he is ye.

Nonsense; that is what you're good at.
If you're going to paraphrase Pogo, you ought to give credit.
If there ever was an over-reaching, overbearing and unaccountable centeral authoritarian figure in my lifetime that would have to be Dick Cheney. I might apologize to his victims, but never to him.

 

[Oddball]

Oh, and the goobers who carry those (D)s by their names all swim in the same cesspool as Cheney, yet are as pure as a spring rain.

Give it up, hackasaurus rex.

 

[Si modo]

a doctrine that advocates the abolition of organized authority. Anarchists believe that all government is corrupt and evil. Anarchism was a force in nineteenth century Russia, associated with Prince Peter Kropotkin (1842-1921) and Mikhail Bakunin (1814-76). Types of anarchism range from pacifism to violent revolution. American President William McKinley was assassinated by anarchists in 1901. However, anarchism has in general not been a prominent force in American political history. ("Anarchism- a doctrine that advocates the abolition of organized authority. Anarchists believe that not only is all government corrupt and evil, but also that any institution based on hierarchy or power is equally corrupt (e.g., religion, the family, etc.) While most often anti-capitalist, there are pro-capitalist strains. Anarchist theory was developed in 19th century Europe, largely by the Russians Prince Peter Kropotkin (1842-1921) and Mikhail Bakunin (1841-76) and the Frenchman Pierre-Joseph Proudhon. (1809-1865).

That's your story, buster.

Right now, America is suffering under anarchy via excessive bureaucracy.

Doesn't mater what the rules and the laws are, the ruling class just snorts; "Like it or lump it...And if you don't like it and don't want to lump it, sue us".

In the world of practical application, there's no better road to real anarchy than the over-reaching, overbearing and unaccountable central authoritarian structure for which you are an unabashed apologist.

You've met the enemy, Francis, and he is ye.

[Emphasis added]

QFT.

 

[martybegan]

Whenever I try to figure out any anarchist theory I always have an issue of how they will handle the assholes who won't cooperate with the collective will.

Anarchism on a small scale, say a commune works because you can kick said person out, or leave if you don't like the communal decsions. On the scale of a nation state this doesnt work out as well.

 

[Oddball]

huh...WHA?

A commune is anarchistic?

 

[martybegan]

huh...WHA?

A commune is anarchistic?

its probably the best model you have for what an anarchistic society would look like. diffused authority, local democracy. They only quibble would be ownership of property, which is more anarcho-communism, then anarcho-capitalism, where property would be owned by individuals.

 

[Oddball]

Collectivized living = Anarchy.



Mmmmmmmmmmm'kaaaay.

 

[martybegan]

Collectivized living = Anarchy.



Mmmmmmmmmmm'kaaaay.

anarchism, not anarchy. There is a difference. most of your 19th century early 20th century anarchists were also communists, remember that.

 

[Oddball]

George Orwell, is that you?

 

[martybegan]

George Orwell, is that you?

How about you try refuting what I am saying instead of just plopping down some witty one liners with added crapicons?

 

[Oddball]

Your contorted semantics are self-refuting.

All that's left is to sit back and chuckle at them.

 

[JBeukema]

Anarchy is impossible. When two men interact, they form either a tyranny or democracy.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Oh, and the goobers who carry those (D)s by their names all swim in the same cesspool as Cheney, yet are as pure as a spring rain.

Give it up, hackasaurus rex.

I never said "the goobers who carry those (D)'s by there name" ... (are) "as pure as a spring rain".

You're not only dishonest Oddude, you're fully incompetent of making a competent personal attack. Knock off the psuedo-intellectualism and tell us what really motivates you [I suspect you're hung up on & hope to hook up with Michelle Bachman, a women your intellectual equal and someone grounded in reality, an anchor you desperately need).

 

[Wry Catcher]

Anarchy is impossible. When two men interact, they form either a tyranny or democracy.

At first blush I thought, 'how profound'; then I realized the false dichotomy. When two men interact one kills the other and establishes a religious sect.

 

[JBeukema]

' incompetent of making a competent personal attack' ?