CDZ An Interesting Analysis of a Plausible US Civil War Today

[rightwinger]

I love how unprepared they are and how they think its a north south conflict . they're still stuck in a 1800 scenario .

MONEY ?
if the SHTF and civil war breaks out the greenback will be worth less .
Ill ignore the planet wide ripple effect and why the chi coms a Russians are currently hording gold
Italy current move to a seize control of its gold is for another thread and not related to ivans or the chinks hoarding

im not exactly on food stamps so of course i dont want a civil war to happen
but money isnt everything
I love modern western civilization ....its Nice ...RIGHT ?
dont ya love flickin on the light switch ?
With all our problems no one on the planet lives as well as we do .....brown and black people should now HUG the nearest WHITE MAN.

i had a head start in life i had an uncle who taught this city boy how to hunt and fish
got a nice plot of land thats almost ready for me to move onto i was out there all afternoon today supervising and barking ...i did bring em a 12 pack
As an older semi retired bloke i thought i position myself in a nice spot....i didnt come down here blind . i knew someone who was already here ...and for the last two years making friends with the right kinda people..
when im done setting up i may take a full time job again or still do some consulting
im only in my early 50's and until the SHTF .....im not the kinda guy to just sit around forever
no matter how much money ya got personally Id still feel like a bum
somethin cushy , ive did my time . N O more stress on deadlines LOL lyin about deadlines or running like a crazed city boy at warp speed.

My point is I didn't cash it all out and quit the global rat race fer nothing .

ive been learning new skills LIKE how to preserve food like when i start growing my own tomatoes n shit ....make jerky ...picking up some basic medical knowledge , range time ...PRACTICE PRACTICE PRATICE .

I just had major dental work compltede that i probably didnt need for a few more years .

I cant stress enough buy simple medical books and other thing you might need ...you dont need a ton of money second hand books are dirt cheap .....thyell be no asking google for the how to you tube video . make local allies who are thinking like you they're out there .

Because unlike these retards i know no ones showing up to hand out MRES

Have a nice stash of your own ...think of each person you need to feed for 6 months than double it ...your dogs your animals
Think about water I cant stress enough some need to more than others.

Suburban and urbanite patriots if you're from there or moved there to start a career or something.... pick up some tips on urban survial. Think about a what if thiers no water electricity or money or medical ....for months . Tthink about a small weapon and ammo to keep in yer apt ,condo, or house even if you have to break a draconian progressive law. you will not be safe in heavily populated area

if you're lucky you may have a week or two before theirs local armed packs roaming looking for stuff to eat.....i think im being generous there.
For instance you think some are not going to venture out of Chicago war zones ?

NO ONE IS COMING TO SAVE YOU

The cops are NOT coming and half the military are "rubes" progressive middle class braggert ass hats love to demonize ......yeah theyre going to slaughter a lil American town for the suburban/ urban progressives and what will be thier illigit government masters
it could be really fast or go on for years ..we dont know
Let history record we didnt want it or start it

Is it just me or is the tree of liberty staring to look a little parched ?....OOOO boy
If it comes God Help us all


Rubes you already know this shit

A lot of you " Evil Redknecks" youre much richer than any urban suburbanite beta cucked pussy dork in many ways....not talking bout money.

Always keep that head high

but you already know that to

Can’t fight a war without money

Guns and bullets can win a battle but to sustain a war you need money for fuel, ammunition, food, spare parts, paying your soldiers

Blue areas of the country control our monetary system

Yup, they do, don't they. When the SHTF, you can bet your bottom dollar that clean water and food will become pretty f'ing valuable. You can't eat gold, dumbass. It's OK, though, you just keep on thinking you've got is sown up because of that pile of bills you'll be squatting on.

Most major cities have ports and major airports

They have access to unlimited supplies and the money to pay for them

What good is that stuff in war ? Only if the military protects and secures such things are they usable in a war situation, but you have to realize and/or know for sure who that military will be working for.

The left have lost control of their "Trump" cards, so they are wallering around like a bunch of fish out of water. LOL.

Another RW fantasy that the military will support their crazy revolution

 

[beagle9]

I love how unprepared they are and how they think its a north south conflict . they're still stuck in a 1800 scenario .

MONEY ?
if the SHTF and civil war breaks out the greenback will be worth less .
Ill ignore the planet wide ripple effect and why the chi coms a Russians are currently hording gold
Italy current move to a seize control of its gold is for another thread and not related to ivans or the chinks hoarding

im not exactly on food stamps so of course i dont want a civil war to happen
but money isnt everything
I love modern western civilization ....its Nice ...RIGHT ?
dont ya love flickin on the light switch ?
With all our problems no one on the planet lives as well as we do .....brown and black people should now HUG the nearest WHITE MAN.

i had a head start in life i had an uncle who taught this city boy how to hunt and fish
got a nice plot of land thats almost ready for me to move onto i was out there all afternoon today supervising and barking ...i did bring em a 12 pack
As an older semi retired bloke i thought i position myself in a nice spot....i didnt come down here blind . i knew someone who was already here ...and for the last two years making friends with the right kinda people..
when im done setting up i may take a full time job again or still do some consulting
im only in my early 50's and until the SHTF .....im not the kinda guy to just sit around forever
no matter how much money ya got personally Id still feel like a bum
somethin cushy , ive did my time . N O more stress on deadlines LOL lyin about deadlines or running like a crazed city boy at warp speed.

My point is I didn't cash it all out and quit the global rat race fer nothing .

ive been learning new skills LIKE how to preserve food like when i start growing my own tomatoes n shit ....make jerky ...picking up some basic medical knowledge , range time ...PRACTICE PRACTICE PRATICE .

I just had major dental work compltede that i probably didnt need for a few more years .

I cant stress enough buy simple medical books and other thing you might need ...you dont need a ton of money second hand books are dirt cheap .....thyell be no asking google for the how to you tube video . make local allies who are thinking like you they're out there .

Because unlike these retards i know no ones showing up to hand out MRES

Have a nice stash of your own ...think of each person you need to feed for 6 months than double it ...your dogs your animals
Think about water I cant stress enough some need to more than others.

Suburban and urbanite patriots if you're from there or moved there to start a career or something.... pick up some tips on urban survial. Think about a what if thiers no water electricity or money or medical ....for months . Tthink about a small weapon and ammo to keep in yer apt ,condo, or house even if you have to break a draconian progressive law. you will not be safe in heavily populated area

if you're lucky you may have a week or two before theirs local armed packs roaming looking for stuff to eat.....i think im being generous there.
For instance you think some are not going to venture out of Chicago war zones ?

NO ONE IS COMING TO SAVE YOU

The cops are NOT coming and half the military are "rubes" progressive middle class braggert ass hats love to demonize ......yeah theyre going to slaughter a lil American town for the suburban/ urban progressives and what will be thier illigit government masters
it could be really fast or go on for years ..we dont know
Let history record we didnt want it or start it

Is it just me or is the tree of liberty staring to look a little parched ?....OOOO boy
If it comes God Help us all


Rubes you already know this shit

A lot of you " Evil Redknecks" youre much richer than any urban suburbanite beta cucked pussy dork in many ways....not talking bout money.

Always keep that head high

but you already know that to

Can’t fight a war without money

Guns and bullets can win a battle but to sustain a war you need money for fuel, ammunition, food, spare parts, paying your soldiers

Blue areas of the country control our monetary system

Yup, they do, don't they. When the SHTF, you can bet your bottom dollar that clean water and food will become pretty f'ing valuable. You can't eat gold, dumbass. It's OK, though, you just keep on thinking you've got is sown up because of that pile of bills you'll be squatting on.

Most major cities have ports and major airports

They have access to unlimited supplies and the money to pay for them

What good is that stuff in war ? Only if the military protects and secures such things are they usable in a war situation, but you have to realize and/or know for sure who that military will be working for.

The left have lost control of their "Trump" cards, so they are wallering around like a bunch of fish out of water. LOL.

Another RW fantasy that the military will support their crazy revolution

Another leftist who fantasizes or figures that the military is on your side automatically. LOL.

How this nation had emboldend the left in this way is flat outright amazing really. It has been an on going war since the 60's, and the left thinks it has finally won that war.. Uhhh until Trump came along and spoiled it all. LOL

 

[Toro]

Can’t fight a war without money

Guns and bullets can win a battle but to sustain a war you need money for fuel, ammunition, food, spare parts, paying your soldiers

Blue areas of the country control our monetary system

Yup, they do, don't they. When the SHTF, you can bet your bottom dollar that clean water and food will become pretty f'ing valuable. You can't eat gold, dumbass. It's OK, though, you just keep on thinking you've got is sown up because of that pile of bills you'll be squatting on.

Most major cities have ports and major airports

They have access to unlimited supplies and the money to pay for them

What good is that stuff in war ? Only if the military protects and secures such things are they usable in a war situation, but you have to realize and/or know for sure who that military will be working for.

The left have lost control of their "Trump" cards, so they are wallering around like a bunch of fish out of water. LOL.

Another RW fantasy that the military will support their crazy revolution

Another leftist who fantasizes or figures that the military is on your side automatically. LOL.

How this nation had emboldend the left in this way is flat outright amazing really. It has been an on going war since the 60's, and the left thinks it has finally won that war.. Uhhh until Trump came along and spoiled it all. LOL

Thank you for your fantasies, old person lol

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I love how unprepared they are and how they think its a north south conflict . they're still stuck in a 1800 scenario .

MONEY ?
if the SHTF and civil war breaks out the greenback will be worth less .
Ill ignore the planet wide ripple effect and why the chi coms a Russians are currently hording gold
Italy current move to a seize control of its gold is for another thread and not related to ivans or the chinks hoarding

im not exactly on food stamps so of course i dont want a civil war to happen
but money isnt everything
I love modern western civilization ....its Nice ...RIGHT ?
dont ya love flickin on the light switch ?
With all our problems no one on the planet lives as well as we do .....brown and black people should now HUG the nearest WHITE MAN.

i had a head start in life i had an uncle who taught this city boy how to hunt and fish
got a nice plot of land thats almost ready for me to move onto i was out there all afternoon today supervising and barking ...i did bring em a 12 pack
As an older semi retired bloke i thought i position myself in a nice spot....i didnt come down here blind . i knew someone who was already here ...and for the last two years making friends with the right kinda people..
when im done setting up i may take a full time job again or still do some consulting
im only in my early 50's and until the SHTF .....im not the kinda guy to just sit around forever
no matter how much money ya got personally Id still feel like a bum
somethin cushy , ive did my time . N O more stress on deadlines LOL lyin about deadlines or running like a crazed city boy at warp speed.

My point is I didn't cash it all out and quit the global rat race fer nothing .

ive been learning new skills LIKE how to preserve food like when i start growing my own tomatoes n shit ....make jerky ...picking up some basic medical knowledge , range time ...PRACTICE PRACTICE PRATICE .

I just had major dental work compltede that i probably didnt need for a few more years .

I cant stress enough buy simple medical books and other thing you might need ...you dont need a ton of money second hand books are dirt cheap .....thyell be no asking google for the how to you tube video . make local allies who are thinking like you they're out there .

Because unlike these retards i know no ones showing up to hand out MRES

Have a nice stash of your own ...think of each person you need to feed for 6 months than double it ...your dogs your animals
Think about water I cant stress enough some need to more than others.

Suburban and urbanite patriots if you're from there or moved there to start a career or something.... pick up some tips on urban survial. Think about a what if thiers no water electricity or money or medical ....for months . Tthink about a small weapon and ammo to keep in yer apt ,condo, or house even if you have to break a draconian progressive law. you will not be safe in heavily populated area

if you're lucky you may have a week or two before theirs local armed packs roaming looking for stuff to eat.....i think im being generous there.
For instance you think some are not going to venture out of Chicago war zones ?

NO ONE IS COMING TO SAVE YOU

The cops are NOT coming and half the military are "rubes" progressive middle class braggert ass hats love to demonize ......yeah theyre going to slaughter a lil American town for the suburban/ urban progressives and what will be thier illigit government masters
it could be really fast or go on for years ..we dont know
Let history record we didnt want it or start it

Is it just me or is the tree of liberty staring to look a little parched ?....OOOO boy
If it comes God Help us all


Rubes you already know this shit

A lot of you " Evil Redknecks" youre much richer than any urban suburbanite beta cucked pussy dork in many ways....not talking bout money.

Always keep that head high

but you already know that to

Can’t fight a war without money

Guns and bullets can win a battle but to sustain a war you need money for fuel, ammunition, food, spare parts, paying your soldiers

Blue areas of the country control our monetary system

Yup, they do, don't they. When the SHTF, you can bet your bottom dollar that clean water and food will become pretty f'ing valuable. You can't eat gold, dumbass. It's OK, though, you just keep on thinking you've got is sown up because of that pile of bills you'll be squatting on.

Most major cities have ports and major airports

They have access to unlimited supplies and the money to pay for them

What unlimited supplies? Asphalt?
Here's something you need to understand.
The heartland and the south provide you with the majority of assets that make this country run.
Cities dont produce jack shit without them.
Where are the mines in NY city? The wheat fields,the oil fields the Beef and Chicken you have on your table come from the very places you despise.

You dumbfucks would be eating your pets and rats in short order. Not to mention your water supply which would be easily controlled.
Then you have the major power lines running through Red territory that would be sabotaged.
Cities may be a blue stronghold but they'd soon turn into blue cemeteries.

 

[Leo123]

They have access to unlimited supplies and the money to pay for them

I hope so because it will cost them a lot.

 

[rightwinger]

Can’t fight a war without money

Guns and bullets can win a battle but to sustain a war you need money for fuel, ammunition, food, spare parts, paying your soldiers

Blue areas of the country control our monetary system

Yup, they do, don't they. When the SHTF, you can bet your bottom dollar that clean water and food will become pretty f'ing valuable. You can't eat gold, dumbass. It's OK, though, you just keep on thinking you've got is sown up because of that pile of bills you'll be squatting on.

Most major cities have ports and major airports

They have access to unlimited supplies and the money to pay for them

What good is that stuff in war ? Only if the military protects and secures such things are they usable in a war situation, but you have to realize and/or know for sure who that military will be working for.

The left have lost control of their "Trump" cards, so they are wallering around like a bunch of fish out of water. LOL.

Another RW fantasy that the military will support their crazy revolution

Another leftist who fantasizes or figures that the military is on your side automatically. LOL.

How this nation had emboldend the left in this way is flat outright amazing really. It has been an on going war since the 60's, and the left thinks it has finally won that war.. Uhhh until Trump came along and spoiled it all. LOL

It will depend on who revolts against the United States

Don't see much rhetoric coming from the left. That would be a second amendment remedy
This nation was founded by the left

 

[rightwinger]

They have access to unlimited supplies and the money to pay for them

I hope so because it will cost them a lot.

Wars usually do

 

[Vastator]

Yup, they do, don't they. When the SHTF, you can bet your bottom dollar that clean water and food will become pretty f'ing valuable. You can't eat gold, dumbass. It's OK, though, you just keep on thinking you've got is sown up because of that pile of bills you'll be squatting on.

Most major cities have ports and major airports

They have access to unlimited supplies and the money to pay for them

What good is that stuff in war ? Only if the military protects and secures such things are they usable in a war situation, but you have to realize and/or know for sure who that military will be working for.

The left have lost control of their "Trump" cards, so they are wallering around like a bunch of fish out of water. LOL.

Another RW fantasy that the military will support their crazy revolution

Another leftist who fantasizes or figures that the military is on your side automatically. LOL.

How this nation had emboldend the left in this way is flat outright amazing really. It has been an on going war since the 60's, and the left thinks it has finally won that war.. Uhhh until Trump came along and spoiled it all. LOL

It will depend on who revolts against the United States

Don't see much rhetoric coming from the left. That would be a second amendment remedy
This nation was founded by the left

Nonsense. This nation was founded by classical liberals. Today’s “Left” are out, and out Socialists. Peddle that shyte at the next Antifa rally...
And if you think today’s Left is Representative of true America, you’ve got another thing coming.

 

[Vastator]

They have access to unlimited supplies and the money to pay for them

I hope so because it will cost them a lot.

You realize this singular hope of air and seaports, is not only indicative of desperately poor fore thought. It’s also completely oblivious to the realities of human nature.

 

[Pogo]

Most major cities have ports and major airports

They have access to unlimited supplies and the money to pay for them

What good is that stuff in war ? Only if the military protects and secures such things are they usable in a war situation, but you have to realize and/or know for sure who that military will be working for.

The left have lost control of their "Trump" cards, so they are wallering around like a bunch of fish out of water. LOL.

Another RW fantasy that the military will support their crazy revolution

Another leftist who fantasizes or figures that the military is on your side automatically. LOL.

How this nation had emboldend the left in this way is flat outright amazing really. It has been an on going war since the 60's, and the left thinks it has finally won that war.. Uhhh until Trump came along and spoiled it all. LOL

It will depend on who revolts against the United States

Don't see much rhetoric coming from the left. That would be a second amendment remedy
This nation was founded by the left

Nonsense. This nation was founded by classical liberals. Today’s “Left” are out, and out Socialists. Peddle that shyte at the next Antifa rally...
And if you think today’s Left is Representative of true America, you’ve got another thing coming.

"Left" is not "Liberal". Never was. You're conflating two different things.

There is no "classical" qualifier required. Liberal means Liberal, just as word means word, just as means means means.

 

[Vastator]

What good is that stuff in war ? Only if the military protects and secures such things are they usable in a war situation, but you have to realize and/or know for sure who that military will be working for.

The left have lost control of their "Trump" cards, so they are wallering around like a bunch of fish out of water. LOL.

Another RW fantasy that the military will support their crazy revolution

Another leftist who fantasizes or figures that the military is on your side automatically. LOL.

How this nation had emboldend the left in this way is flat outright amazing really. It has been an on going war since the 60's, and the left thinks it has finally won that war.. Uhhh until Trump came along and spoiled it all. LOL

It will depend on who revolts against the United States

Don't see much rhetoric coming from the left. That would be a second amendment remedy
This nation was founded by the left

Nonsense. This nation was founded by classical liberals. Today’s “Left” are out, and out Socialists. Peddle that shyte at the next Antifa rally...
And if you think today’s Left is Representative of true America, you’ve got another thing coming.

"Left" is not "Liberal". Never was. You're conflating two different things.

There is no "classical" qualifier required. Liberal means Liberal, just as word means word, just as means means means.

Present day vernacular says otherwise. “I” know that. “You” may know that. But those waving the “Liberal banner” don’t know that. And those who blindly follow them surely don’t know that. Like it,or not; the left is the vision conjured today, by the word “liberal”. That’s why most people differentiate them from classical liberals. That’s just the way it is...

 

[Pogo]

LOL....you dont have a clue as to why the south lost do you?

They had superior generals and home field advantage

They lost to superior logistics of the North

Same way the Red Army would lose this hypothetical war

You got part of it right.
The north was able to resupply through rail,something the south didnt have.
So tell me....has that changed?

North had unlimited and unrestricted logistics including being able to replace and improve its rail system

In the end money won out

The Confederacy was also anything but all in on a war that was contrived by the rich planter class that the common farmer despised. Desertion and draft dodging were rampant. Pockets of active resistance sprang up in Texas, in Arkansas, in Mississippi, in Alabama, in Georgia. Northwestern Virginia seceded and East Tennessee would have but for the presence of Confederate troops. Bushwhackers who wanted no part of war took sniper positions to cut down any army from either side that incurred on their town..

So in effect, many similarities with this ridiculous comic book fantasy where some fringe element imagines "wars" over fucking political party tribalism. Nobody but the fringe believes in that shit.

Wars don't always include bullets, tanks, money, resources, and accommodations in which accompany a mechanized war, but what wars do have in common is either long term strategies or short term strategies in which come in many various forms.

Some wars are fought without ever firing a shot, and these wars can be small as is between two people or worse all the way up to various groups jockying for power, resources, money, and land in an eventual take over bid if possible.

Some wars last year's without people realizing this until the finality of such wars begin to enter their final stages or fazes.

Wars for territory (territorial wars), as is with gangs etc, are a constant in this country now.

An example of this is right in front of people's faces daily, yet they feel powerless to stop any of it due to the entrenched corruption found in it all.

The attacks on cops is yet another war that has been on going, and the sad thing for them is that they have the enemy working strategies above and below them. The judges and the sentencing has been reduced to a toothless lion that leaves the cops as sitting ducks in the aftermaths of them trying to do their jobs out on the streets.

I saw something today that astonished me, and I couldn't believe my eyes when viewing it. In the eighties there is an area of a town that I worked in way back in the day, and It was a thriving middle class bustling metropolis of residential mixed in with business that served the residence of the area well. Very profitable area for residences and businesses alike.

It had all the big named stores, recreational facilities, gun shooting ranges, strip malls, storage units, realestate offices, bowling allies, modern gas stations etc.

Well no more. It was amazing what I had seen today. There was a huge new grocery store not long built (shut down), gas stations (shut down), bowling allies (shut down), recreational facilities (shut down), strip malls (empty or shut down), motels, hotels (shut down), and on and on it went. There was no reason for the area to be in disarray like that.

We saw the sidewalks full of people, but these weren't people out for a stroll, excersizing etc. Most were sadly what appeared to be pimps and their ladies, then their were the pants on the ground types/gang types crowd walking, and there was one poor feller standing in a store parking lot stoned out of his mind it appeared. The cops just drove right past him as if he wasn't even there.

I can only imagine how bad Chicago is when see this sort of stuff....It is being witnessed here now, but I guess it's only on a smaller scale (only various areas affected), other than what it is over in Chicago or places way bigger.

Anyway, I just wanted to share in my thoughts on the matter, and to see if others are seeing in this sort of stuff also in their towns or cities etc ??

When areas fall like this, is it part of a strategy by groups or just shifting demographics caused by poverty or what ever ??? What makes an area vulnerable to these things, and then the fall comes afterwards ? I did notice that right off of the main road there were apt. complexes upon apt. complexes upon apt. complexes.

Are birth rates out of control amongst groups in which in turn causes long term poverty over long periods of time for the children who are born into it ?? The so called war on poverty, is it working or is the strategy a failed one ???

How will businesses and people keep shifting and losing their investments in order to keep a distance between people drowning in poverty as so it doesn't negatively affect their communities and business sectors like this ???

How long can people keep running, and losing ground because of poverty sprawl ??? What are the solutions ????

Would a mandatory two to four year military service be a good thing in which to help these troubled young folks beat the poverty machine ??? That could be a great beginning to solving this thing, and it could make men and women (before they get caught up in the poverty trap totally), to become better people, and more responsible citizens if on the wrong track in life.

The military needs recruits anyway, and it would be good way to prepare the troubled youth by having them spend at least two years in the service of their choice, but it would be mandatory if they quit school or rather one is engaging in bad grades, bad character or even light criminal activity.

The service would have to change back into making honorable men and women out of these youth or young folks. The gloves come off if needed so to speak, but in a very disiplined manor.

A helluva lotta words just to play loosely with the definition of "war" trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.

What you're describing above is conflicts, disagreements, tensions and reactions. It is not "war".

What's proposed in this pimply-faced adolescent fantasy of the OP is an actual war, in its real meaning. Mindless as that fantasy is, if such an event were actually plausible, the point of the actual Civil War comparison above is that just because you throw a war doesn't mean everybody shows up for it. The overwhelming majority of the populace simply don't think in these perverted ways. In the real world the average Joe is far more concerned about whether his neighbor's dog is digging up his yard, than what his freaking political ideology is.

Again, the contingent that actually would show up are a tiny lunatic fringe. And that element is what we have the FBI for. What's being contemplated here is simply a dressed-up version of a mass shooting event. Same kind of pseudopolitical bullshit that leads to stuff like 9/11.

 

[Pogo]

Another RW fantasy that the military will support their crazy revolution

Another leftist who fantasizes or figures that the military is on your side automatically. LOL.

How this nation had emboldend the left in this way is flat outright amazing really. It has been an on going war since the 60's, and the left thinks it has finally won that war.. Uhhh until Trump came along and spoiled it all. LOL

It will depend on who revolts against the United States

Don't see much rhetoric coming from the left. That would be a second amendment remedy
This nation was founded by the left

Nonsense. This nation was founded by classical liberals. Today’s “Left” are out, and out Socialists. Peddle that shyte at the next Antifa rally...
And if you think today’s Left is Representative of true America, you’ve got another thing coming.

"Left" is not "Liberal". Never was. You're conflating two different things.

There is no "classical" qualifier required. Liberal means Liberal, just as word means word, just as means means means.

Present day vernacular says otherwise. “I” know that. “You” may know that. But those waving the “Liberal banner” don’t know that. And those who blindly follow them surely don’t know that. Like it,or not; the left is the vision conjured today, by the word “liberal”. That’s why most people differentiate them from classical liberals. That’s just the way it is...

And now you're taking your own misdefinition and applying it to other people. And that's a linguistic cop-out.

Back in grammar school they used to say, if "everybody" jumped in the lake would you jump in too? Sheeping is for sheep.

 

[Vastator]

Another leftist who fantasizes or figures that the military is on your side automatically. LOL.

How this nation had emboldend the left in this way is flat outright amazing really. It has been an on going war since the 60's, and the left thinks it has finally won that war.. Uhhh until Trump came along and spoiled it all. LOL

It will depend on who revolts against the United States

Don't see much rhetoric coming from the left. That would be a second amendment remedy
This nation was founded by the left

Nonsense. This nation was founded by classical liberals. Today’s “Left” are out, and out Socialists. Peddle that shyte at the next Antifa rally...
And if you think today’s Left is Representative of true America, you’ve got another thing coming.

"Left" is not "Liberal". Never was. You're conflating two different things.

There is no "classical" qualifier required. Liberal means Liberal, just as word means word, just as means means means.

Present day vernacular says otherwise. “I” know that. “You” may know that. But those waving the “Liberal banner” don’t know that. And those who blindly follow them surely don’t know that. Like it,or not; the left is the vision conjured today, by the word “liberal”. That’s why most people differentiate them from classical liberals. That’s just the way it is...

And now you're taking your own misdefinition and applying it to other people. And that's a linguistic cop-out.

No; that’s just reality... I deal in what is. Not what should be...

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

They had superior generals and home field advantage

They lost to superior logistics of the North

Same way the Red Army would lose this hypothetical war

You got part of it right.
The north was able to resupply through rail,something the south didnt have.
So tell me....has that changed?

North had unlimited and unrestricted logistics including being able to replace and improve its rail system

In the end money won out

The Confederacy was also anything but all in on a war that was contrived by the rich planter class that the common farmer despised. Desertion and draft dodging were rampant. Pockets of active resistance sprang up in Texas, in Arkansas, in Mississippi, in Alabama, in Georgia. Northwestern Virginia seceded and East Tennessee would have but for the presence of Confederate troops. Bushwhackers who wanted no part of war took sniper positions to cut down any army from either side that incurred on their town..

So in effect, many similarities with this ridiculous comic book fantasy where some fringe element imagines "wars" over fucking political party tribalism. Nobody but the fringe believes in that shit.

Wars don't always include bullets, tanks, money, resources, and accommodations in which accompany a mechanized war, but what wars do have in common is either long term strategies or short term strategies in which come in many various forms.

Some wars are fought without ever firing a shot, and these wars can be small as is between two people or worse all the way up to various groups jockying for power, resources, money, and land in an eventual take over bid if possible.

Some wars last year's without people realizing this until the finality of such wars begin to enter their final stages or fazes.

Wars for territory (territorial wars), as is with gangs etc, are a constant in this country now.

An example of this is right in front of people's faces daily, yet they feel powerless to stop any of it due to the entrenched corruption found in it all.

The attacks on cops is yet another war that has been on going, and the sad thing for them is that they have the enemy working strategies above and below them. The judges and the sentencing has been reduced to a toothless lion that leaves the cops as sitting ducks in the aftermaths of them trying to do their jobs out on the streets.

I saw something today that astonished me, and I couldn't believe my eyes when viewing it. In the eighties there is an area of a town that I worked in way back in the day, and It was a thriving middle class bustling metropolis of residential mixed in with business that served the residence of the area well. Very profitable area for residences and businesses alike.

It had all the big named stores, recreational facilities, gun shooting ranges, strip malls, storage units, realestate offices, bowling allies, modern gas stations etc.

Well no more. It was amazing what I had seen today. There was a huge new grocery store not long built (shut down), gas stations (shut down), bowling allies (shut down), recreational facilities (shut down), strip malls (empty or shut down), motels, hotels (shut down), and on and on it went. There was no reason for the area to be in disarray like that.

We saw the sidewalks full of people, but these weren't people out for a stroll, excersizing etc. Most were sadly what appeared to be pimps and their ladies, then their were the pants on the ground types/gang types crowd walking, and there was one poor feller standing in a store parking lot stoned out of his mind it appeared. The cops just drove right past him as if he wasn't even there.

I can only imagine how bad Chicago is when see this sort of stuff....It is being witnessed here now, but I guess it's only on a smaller scale (only various areas affected), other than what it is over in Chicago or places way bigger.

Anyway, I just wanted to share in my thoughts on the matter, and to see if others are seeing in this sort of stuff also in their towns or cities etc ??

When areas fall like this, is it part of a strategy by groups or just shifting demographics caused by poverty or what ever ??? What makes an area vulnerable to these things, and then the fall comes afterwards ? I did notice that right off of the main road there were apt. complexes upon apt. complexes upon apt. complexes.

Are birth rates out of control amongst groups in which in turn causes long term poverty over long periods of time for the children who are born into it ?? The so called war on poverty, is it working or is the strategy a failed one ???

How will businesses and people keep shifting and losing their investments in order to keep a distance between people drowning in poverty as so it doesn't negatively affect their communities and business sectors like this ???

How long can people keep running, and losing ground because of poverty sprawl ??? What are the solutions ????

Would a mandatory two to four year military service be a good thing in which to help these troubled young folks beat the poverty machine ??? That could be a great beginning to solving this thing, and it could make men and women (before they get caught up in the poverty trap totally), to become better people, and more responsible citizens if on the wrong track in life.

The military needs recruits anyway, and it would be good way to prepare the troubled youth by having them spend at least two years in the service of their choice, but it would be mandatory if they quit school or rather one is engaging in bad grades, bad character or even light criminal activity.

The service would have to change back into making honorable men and women out of these youth or young folks. The gloves come off if needed so to speak, but in a very disiplined manor.

A helluva lotta words just to play loosely with the definition of "war" trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.

What you're describing above is conflicts, disagreements, tensions and reactions. It is not "war".

What's proposed in this pimply-faced adolescent fantasy of the OP is an actual war, in its real meaning. Mindless as that fantasy is, if such an event were actually plausible, the point of the actual Civil War comparison above is that just because you throw a war doesn't mean everybody shows up. Again, the contingent that actually would show up are a tiny lunatic fringe. And that element is what we have the FBI for.

The Jews didnt start a war either......

 

[Pogo]

It will depend on who revolts against the United States

Don't see much rhetoric coming from the left. That would be a second amendment remedy
This nation was founded by the left

Nonsense. This nation was founded by classical liberals. Today’s “Left” are out, and out Socialists. Peddle that shyte at the next Antifa rally...
And if you think today’s Left is Representative of true America, you’ve got another thing coming.

"Left" is not "Liberal". Never was. You're conflating two different things.

There is no "classical" qualifier required. Liberal means Liberal, just as word means word, just as means means means.

Present day vernacular says otherwise. “I” know that. “You” may know that. But those waving the “Liberal banner” don’t know that. And those who blindly follow them surely don’t know that. Like it,or not; the left is the vision conjured today, by the word “liberal”. That’s why most people differentiate them from classical liberals. That’s just the way it is...

And now you're taking your own misdefinition and applying it to other people. And that's a linguistic cop-out.

No; that’s just reality... I deal in what is. Not what should be...

There's a word for that. The verb "to cave".

"When the known facts change, I change my mind. What do you do sir?"

You just FAILED TO deal in what is, and went full sheep, even knowing it was wrong.

 

[Vastator]

Nonsense. This nation was founded by classical liberals. Today’s “Left” are out, and out Socialists. Peddle that shyte at the next Antifa rally...
And if you think today’s Left is Representative of true America, you’ve got another thing coming.

"Left" is not "Liberal". Never was. You're conflating two different things.

There is no "classical" qualifier required. Liberal means Liberal, just as word means word, just as means means means.

Present day vernacular says otherwise. “I” know that. “You” may know that. But those waving the “Liberal banner” don’t know that. And those who blindly follow them surely don’t know that. Like it,or not; the left is the vision conjured today, by the word “liberal”. That’s why most people differentiate them from classical liberals. That’s just the way it is...

And now you're taking your own misdefinition and applying it to other people. And that's a linguistic cop-out.

No; that’s just reality... I deal in what is. Not what should be...

There's a word for that. The verb "to cave".

"When the known facts change, I change my mind. What do you do sir?"

I ingnore the disruption, and continue to connect with my audience in the language they can understand...

 

[beagle9]

What good is that stuff in war ? Only if the military protects and secures such things are they usable in a war situation, but you have to realize and/or know for sure who that military will be working for.

The left have lost control of their "Trump" cards, so they are wallering around like a bunch of fish out of water. LOL.

Another RW fantasy that the military will support their crazy revolution

Another leftist who fantasizes or figures that the military is on your side automatically. LOL.

How this nation had emboldend the left in this way is flat outright amazing really. It has been an on going war since the 60's, and the left thinks it has finally won that war.. Uhhh until Trump came along and spoiled it all. LOL

It will depend on who revolts against the United States

Don't see much rhetoric coming from the left. That would be a second amendment remedy
This nation was founded by the left

Nonsense. This nation was founded by classical liberals. Today’s “Left” are out, and out Socialists. Peddle that shyte at the next Antifa rally...
And if you think today’s Left is Representative of true America, you’ve got another thing coming.

"Left" is not "Liberal". Never was. You're conflating two different things.

There is no "classical" qualifier required. Liberal means Liberal, just as word means word, just as means means means.

Well the left has set about to enjoy the spoils that the liberals have since gained over time for themselves. (highjacked).

Until people set themselves apart from those things which destroy them, it will continue.

 

[Pogo]

Another RW fantasy that the military will support their crazy revolution

Another leftist who fantasizes or figures that the military is on your side automatically. LOL.

How this nation had emboldend the left in this way is flat outright amazing really. It has been an on going war since the 60's, and the left thinks it has finally won that war.. Uhhh until Trump came along and spoiled it all. LOL

It will depend on who revolts against the United States

Don't see much rhetoric coming from the left. That would be a second amendment remedy
This nation was founded by the left

Nonsense. This nation was founded by classical liberals. Today’s “Left” are out, and out Socialists. Peddle that shyte at the next Antifa rally...
And if you think today’s Left is Representative of true America, you’ve got another thing coming.

"Left" is not "Liberal". Never was. You're conflating two different things.

There is no "classical" qualifier required. Liberal means Liberal, just as word means word, just as means means means.

Well the left has set about to enjoy the spoils that the liberals have since gained over time for themselves. (highjacked).
.
Until people set themselves apart from those things which destroy them, it will continue.

Ah yes, the rejection of the feudal ideas of monarchy and clergy running everything. Yeah we did that. You're welcome. Actually it was a while ago, guess news travels slow.

Don't like it? Go live in Saudi Arabia.

 

[beagle9]

They had superior generals and home field advantage

They lost to superior logistics of the North

Same way the Red Army would lose this hypothetical war

You got part of it right.
The north was able to resupply through rail,something the south didnt have.
So tell me....has that changed?

North had unlimited and unrestricted logistics including being able to replace and improve its rail system

In the end money won out

The Confederacy was also anything but all in on a war that was contrived by the rich planter class that the common farmer despised. Desertion and draft dodging were rampant. Pockets of active resistance sprang up in Texas, in Arkansas, in Mississippi, in Alabama, in Georgia. Northwestern Virginia seceded and East Tennessee would have but for the presence of Confederate troops. Bushwhackers who wanted no part of war took sniper positions to cut down any army from either side that incurred on their town..

So in effect, many similarities with this ridiculous comic book fantasy where some fringe element imagines "wars" over fucking political party tribalism. Nobody but the fringe believes in that shit.

Wars don't always include bullets, tanks, money, resources, and accommodations in which accompany a mechanized war, but what wars do have in common is either long term strategies or short term strategies in which come in many various forms.

Some wars are fought without ever firing a shot, and these wars can be small as is between two people or worse all the way up to various groups jockying for power, resources, money, and land in an eventual take over bid if possible.

Some wars last year's without people realizing this until the finality of such wars begin to enter their final stages or fazes.

Wars for territory (territorial wars), as is with gangs etc, are a constant in this country now.

An example of this is right in front of people's faces daily, yet they feel powerless to stop any of it due to the entrenched corruption found in it all.

The attacks on cops is yet another war that has been on going, and the sad thing for them is that they have the enemy working strategies above and below them. The judges and the sentencing has been reduced to a toothless lion that leaves the cops as sitting ducks in the aftermaths of them trying to do their jobs out on the streets.

I saw something today that astonished me, and I couldn't believe my eyes when viewing it. In the eighties there is an area of a town that I worked in way back in the day, and It was a thriving middle class bustling metropolis of residential mixed in with business that served the residence of the area well. Very profitable area for residences and businesses alike.

It had all the big named stores, recreational facilities, gun shooting ranges, strip malls, storage units, realestate offices, bowling allies, modern gas stations etc.

Well no more. It was amazing what I had seen today. There was a huge new grocery store not long built (shut down), gas stations (shut down), bowling allies (shut down), recreational facilities (shut down), strip malls (empty or shut down), motels, hotels (shut down), and on and on it went. There was no reason for the area to be in disarray like that.

We saw the sidewalks full of people, but these weren't people out for a stroll, excersizing etc. Most were sadly what appeared to be pimps and their ladies, then their were the pants on the ground types/gang types crowd walking, and there was one poor feller standing in a store parking lot stoned out of his mind it appeared. The cops just drove right past him as if he wasn't even there.

I can only imagine how bad Chicago is when see this sort of stuff....It is being witnessed here now, but I guess it's only on a smaller scale (only various areas affected), other than what it is over in Chicago or places way bigger.

Anyway, I just wanted to share in my thoughts on the matter, and to see if others are seeing in this sort of stuff also in their towns or cities etc ??

When areas fall like this, is it part of a strategy by groups or just shifting demographics caused by poverty or what ever ??? What makes an area vulnerable to these things, and then the fall comes afterwards ? I did notice that right off of the main road there were apt. complexes upon apt. complexes upon apt. complexes.

Are birth rates out of control amongst groups in which in turn causes long term poverty over long periods of time for the children who are born into it ?? The so called war on poverty, is it working or is the strategy a failed one ???

How will businesses and people keep shifting and losing their investments in order to keep a distance between people drowning in poverty as so it doesn't negatively affect their communities and business sectors like this ???

How long can people keep running, and losing ground because of poverty sprawl ??? What are the solutions ????

Would a mandatory two to four year military service be a good thing in which to help these troubled young folks beat the poverty machine ??? That could be a great beginning to solving this thing, and it could make men and women (before they get caught up in the poverty trap totally), to become better people, and more responsible citizens if on the wrong track in life.

The military needs recruits anyway, and it would be good way to prepare the troubled youth by having them spend at least two years in the service of their choice, but it would be mandatory if they quit school or rather one is engaging in bad grades, bad character or even light criminal activity.

The service would have to change back into making honorable men and women out of these youth or young folks. The gloves come off if needed so to speak, but in a very disiplined manor.

A helluva lotta words just to play loosely with the definition of "war" trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.

What you're describing above is conflicts, disagreements, tensions and reactions. It is not "war".

What's proposed in this pimply-faced adolescent fantasy of the OP is an actual war, in its real meaning. Mindless as that fantasy is, if such an event were actually plausible, the point of the actual Civil War comparison above is that just because you throw a war doesn't mean everybody shows up for it. The overwhelming majority of the populace simply don't think in these perverted ways. In the real world the average Joe is far more concerned about whether his neighbor's dog is digging up his yard, than what his freaking political ideology is.

Again, the contingent that actually would show up are a tiny lunatic fringe. And that element is what we have the FBI for. What's being contemplated here is simply a dressed-up version of a mass shooting event. Same kind of pseudopolitical bullshit that leads to stuff like 9/11.

Bullcrap..... Political wars rage as we speak. You trying to limit the definition of war is an attempt to try and suggest that wars are only fought with guns, tanks or whatever else one decides to use to win out over a supposed enemy. Words can be just as lethal as weapons, and the tongue is as sharp as a knife. Go read the Bible, as it will teach you these things.