Amtrak train that crashed, was travelling "over 100 mph" into 50mph curve?

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Investigators have said that the Amtrak train that crashed in Philadelphia last night, was travelling over 100 mph, on a curve whose speed limit was 50 mph.

One passenger who survived, was quoted as saying the train slowed suddenly as though someone had slammed on the brakes, just before the crash.

How long until we start hearing that the engineer was texting his girlfriend, or asleep at the controls, as the train approached the curve?

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Amtrak Crash Train Appears to Have Hit Curve Going Over 100 MPH - WSJ

Amtrak Crash: Train Appears to Have Hit Curve Going Over 100 MPH
Speed limit where accident occurred drops to 50 MPH, rail administration says

Updated May 13, 2015 2:40 p.m. ET

PHILADELPHIA—An Amtrak train involved in a fatal crash here appears to have been traveling at more than 100 miles an hour as it entered a sharp curve where it derailed Tuesday night, killing at least seven people, according to two people with knowledge of the investigation.

The speed limit in that section of track drops to 50 miles an hour, according to the Federal Railroad Administration.

Investigators are focusing on the possibility that excessive speed was a factor in the derailment, one of these people said. The locomotive and all seven passenger cars of the train went off the tracks at a tight curve at Frankford Junction, north of Philadelphia city center. Multiple cars overturned, severely injuring some passengers and pinning others. At least seven people were killed, and more than 200 were injured, including eight who were in critical condition.

Amtrak officials notified some employees on a Wednesday conference call that excessive speed was believed to have contributed to the crash, said one of these people, who was briefed on the contents of the call.

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http://6abc.com/news/5-dead-65-hospitalized-in-amtrak-train-derailment/718111/

An Associated Press manager, Paul Cheung, was on the train and said he was watching Netflix when "the train started to decelerate, like someone had slammed the brake. Then suddenly you could see everything starting to shake," he said. "You could see people's stuff flying over me."

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no , the lefties are still talking infrastructure over in the other thread Sassy !!
 
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Current death toll is 7, with one person still missing.

I wonder..............does anyone else remember that last Amtrak train that crashed? I seem to remember that they took the curve at too high a rate of speed then, going 70 through a 35 mph curve.

Do the engineers get sufficient training, and does that training include a basic physics course so that they understand what centrifugal force is?
 
Current death toll is 7, with one person still missing.

I wonder..............does anyone else remember that last Amtrak train that crashed? I seem to remember that they took the curve at too high a rate of speed then, going 70 through a 35 mph curve.

Do the engineers get sufficient training, and does that training include a basic physics course so that they understand what centrifugal force is?

You'd think there would be alarms warning the conductor he is travelling to fast for the upcoming turn.
 
Apparently, there are currently supposed to be several switches in some of those places that actually slows the train down automatically, and there are other places that DO flash a warning light informing the engineer that he's going too fast.

Unfortunately, there's not enough money to put them on all of the turns like that, and if the engineer misses the slow down sign, stuff like this happens.

Just like it did a year or so ago. Anyone remember that? Pretty much the same circumstances.
 
Apparently, there are currently supposed to be several switches in some of those places that actually slows the train down automatically, and there are other places that DO flash a warning light informing the engineer that he's going too fast.

Unfortunately, there's not enough money to put them on all of the turns like that, and if the engineer misses the slow down sign, stuff like this happens.

Just like it did a year or so ago. Anyone remember that? Pretty much the same circumstances.

How expensive can a sensor be? Hell,I have one on my garage door that trips and sends the door up when it's crossed.
You have sensors in road beds that activate the light cycle at red lights.
Money is absolutely no excuse in this situation.
 
Investigators have said that the Amtrak train that crashed in Philadelphia last night, was travelling over 100 mph, on a curve whose speed limit was 50 mph.

One passenger who survived, was quoted as saying the train slowed suddenly as though someone had slammed on the brakes, just before the crash.

How long until we start hearing that the engineer was texting his girlfriend, or asleep at the controls, as the train approached the curve?

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Amtrak Crash Train Appears to Have Hit Curve Going Over 100 MPH - WSJ

Amtrak Crash: Train Appears to Have Hit Curve Going Over 100 MPH
Speed limit where accident occurred drops to 50 MPH, rail administration says

Updated May 13, 2015 2:40 p.m. ET

PHILADELPHIA—An Amtrak train involved in a fatal crash here appears to have been traveling at more than 100 miles an hour as it entered a sharp curve where it derailed Tuesday night, killing at least seven people, according to two people with knowledge of the investigation.

The speed limit in that section of track drops to 50 miles an hour, according to the Federal Railroad Administration.

Investigators are focusing on the possibility that excessive speed was a factor in the derailment, one of these people said. The locomotive and all seven passenger cars of the train went off the tracks at a tight curve at Frankford Junction, north of Philadelphia city center. Multiple cars overturned, severely injuring some passengers and pinning others. At least seven people were killed, and more than 200 were injured, including eight who were in critical condition.

Amtrak officials notified some employees on a Wednesday conference call that excessive speed was believed to have contributed to the crash, said one of these people, who was briefed on the contents of the call.

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http://6abc.com/news/5-dead-65-hospitalized-in-amtrak-train-derailment/718111/

An Associated Press manager, Paul Cheung, was on the train and said he was watching Netflix when "the train started to decelerate, like someone had slammed the brake. Then suddenly you could see everything starting to shake," he said. "You could see people's stuff flying over me."

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Amtrak trains are computerized. The engineer would have had to override the controls to push the speed up.
 
Investigators have said that the Amtrak train that crashed in Philadelphia last night, was travelling over 100 mph, on a curve whose speed limit was 50 mph.

One passenger who survived, was quoted as saying the train slowed suddenly as though someone had slammed on the brakes, just before the crash.

How long until we start hearing that the engineer was texting his girlfriend, or asleep at the controls, as the train approached the curve?

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Amtrak Crash Train Appears to Have Hit Curve Going Over 100 MPH - WSJ

Amtrak Crash: Train Appears to Have Hit Curve Going Over 100 MPH
Speed limit where accident occurred drops to 50 MPH, rail administration says

Updated May 13, 2015 2:40 p.m. ET

PHILADELPHIA—An Amtrak train involved in a fatal crash here appears to have been traveling at more than 100 miles an hour as it entered a sharp curve where it derailed Tuesday night, killing at least seven people, according to two people with knowledge of the investigation.

The speed limit in that section of track drops to 50 miles an hour, according to the Federal Railroad Administration.

Investigators are focusing on the possibility that excessive speed was a factor in the derailment, one of these people said. The locomotive and all seven passenger cars of the train went off the tracks at a tight curve at Frankford Junction, north of Philadelphia city center. Multiple cars overturned, severely injuring some passengers and pinning others. At least seven people were killed, and more than 200 were injured, including eight who were in critical condition.

Amtrak officials notified some employees on a Wednesday conference call that excessive speed was believed to have contributed to the crash, said one of these people, who was briefed on the contents of the call.

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http://6abc.com/news/5-dead-65-hospitalized-in-amtrak-train-derailment/718111/

An Associated Press manager, Paul Cheung, was on the train and said he was watching Netflix when "the train started to decelerate, like someone had slammed the brake. Then suddenly you could see everything starting to shake," he said. "You could see people's stuff flying over me."

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Amtrak trains are computerized. The engineer would have had to override the controls to push the speed up.

Relying to much on automation and there was a failure maybe?
 

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