Americans are more dissatisfied than citizens of other nations with their basic healt

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    Americans are more dissatisfied than citizens of other nations with their basic health care (search) even while paying more of their own money for treatment, a five-nation survey released Thursday notes.

    The study shows that people in the U.S. face longer wait times to see doctors and have more trouble getting care on evenings or weekends than do people in other industrialized countries. At the same time, Americans were more likely to receive advice on disease prevention and self-care than others.

    One-third of Americans told pollsters that the U.S. health care system should be completely rebuilt, far more than residents of Australia, Canada, New Zealand, or the U.K. Just 16 percent of Americans said that the U.S. health care system needs only minor changes, the lowest number expressing approval among the countries surveyed.

    “In no country is the majority of adults satisfied,” says Cathy Schoen, a vice president at the Commonwealth Fund (search), a nonprofit group that conducted surveys of some 7,000 patients in the five countries.

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    The U.S. is the only industrialized country that does not offer government-sponsored health coverage for all citizens. Proponents of market-driven health care often point to long wait times for services in other countries when warning of the dangers of a government-run system.

    Sixty percent of patients in New Zealand told researchers that they were able to get a same-day appointment with a doctor when sick, nearly double the 33 percent of Americans who got such speedy care. Only Canada scored lower, with 27 percent saying they could get same-day attention. Americans were also the most likely to have difficulty getting care on nights, weekends, or holidays without going to an emergency room.

    Four in 10 U.S. adults told researchers that they had gone without needed care because of the cost, including skipping prescriptions, avoiding going to the doctor, or skipping a recommended test or treatment.

    Meanwhile, 26 percent of Americans surveyed said that they had faced more than $1,000 in out-of-pocket health care costs in the last year, compared with 14 percent of Australians, and 4 percent of Britons.

    “The U.S. stands out as the patients the most exposed to medical bills,” Schoen says.

    A Silver Lining in American Health Care

    The results seemed to discourage American officials, though they say they were heartened by other figures showing that U.S. patients were the most likely to receive several forms of preventive care, including Pap smear tests.

    Eighty-six percent of American women respondents between 50 and 64 years of age said they got a mammogram (search) in the past three years, six points higher than in Australia and nine higher than in the U.K.

    “We’ll take good news where we can get it,” says Carolyn M. Clancy, MD, director of the U.S. Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality. “The other findings are clearly of concern,” she says.

    Clancy stresses that government officials have been actively pushing programs to promote preventive medicine, pointing to the Medicare reforms passed last year that will add preventive care and chronic disease management to the program’s list of paid services for seniors.

    Though their countries generally outperformed the U.S., officials from the survey’s other nations also acknowledged it as proof that their government must do more to promote primary health care and better medical information technology.

    John Hutton, a British Member of Parliament and the Minister of State for Health, says, “When they tell us a message, I think we should listen to it.”
     
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    Are Americans spoiled? It sure looks like it to me.
     
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    Some are spoiled, some are desparate. Sweeping statements are unfair.
     
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    I'm always surprised by the number of health-related ads on tv in the States when I'm there. I'm also surprised - but I shouldn't be - by the knowledge about medical issues and in particular various treatments that the average American (friends/relations of mine, I don't go around chatting to cabbies about medicinal drugs :lol:). That tells me that Americans are better informed on the issues, than people are in my country, for example. Here we have government issuing a lot of health information, in particular through GPs. Pharmaceutical companies sponsor ads in the various media of course but not to the extent I've seen in the US.
     
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    Neubarth, don't be fooled by FOXNews's liberal propaganda. Countries with SOCIALIZED medicine are communist dungeons, where you are forced to go to a disgruntled, unpaid slave doctor, and don't get treatment after 10 years in waiting lines. Not only that- it's a lie that the US spends around three times more on health care as a percentage of GDP than other industrialized countries. In countries with SOCIALIZED medicine, health care cripples the economy! It's a fact! Anything against the market is bankrupt.

    I mean, all of this is obvious. That is why in America EVERYONE is in favour of the current system, while everyone in Europe wants to get rid of their SOCIALIZED medicine. Just look it up. People in Europe, Japan, Australia, etc. are DEMANDING that their government stop shoving that health care up their ass. (Am I right?! Am I right?!)

    I'm trying to get that done in Costa Rica too. We have to demolish the Social Security Fund, because it is a communist institution that stifles the market! But people here are very uneducated and would pretty much execute a government that tried to do that. Common people are so stupid and lazy. How can they demand their government use resources for health?
     
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    America has great healthcare. If you are rich.

    Otherwise, you're screwed.
     
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    Okay, gotta address this, if doctors are so underpaid in socialized health care systems then why are they flocking from the US to Canada?
     
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    Here's a hint, doctors ONLY get paid if people go to them. As long as people can't afford the fees they have to charge they won't go to the doctors, so ultimately the docs lose more money if nothing is done.Socialized medicine helps get more people into the doctor but also is a certain paycheck for the docs even if they don't go. Charging 4,000 for a visit with only (let's underestimate this because of a lack of actual figures) about 5 visits a year that's 20,000 a year, but no one can afford to go enough to barely make that. At only 400 a visit you may need 50 visits a year but since more people can go then more people will be willing to go for even common problems, thus that 50 visits a year is not only obtainable but will be more likely to be exceeded. It's simple logic that many in the US have forgotten. Increasing the cost of something limits those who can access it exponentially in even the best economies.
     
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    Kitten, you might wish to add insurance rates, insurance treatment intrusion and legal liability to your list.
     
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    Our current system cannot continue and socialized or for the politically sensitize liberals, nationalized healthcare is overkill and too much government control. IMO, based on actual accounts from professionals both here and in Europe the best answer is in the middle, learning from the mistakes of both.
     

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