All The World's Indeed A Stage: The Obama-Netanyahu Meeting

While it is tempting to spread porn as you request, Marc should respectfully decline, tinmore.

I await the day for Marc to respectfully do anything.

Don't take your mental illness out on me because I'm so intellectually superior. You should have been aborted.

And, take that schizophrenia medication. I know all about you, sick boy.
 
Take your schizophrenia medication. I know all about you
Schizophrenia is a severe mental illness characterized by a disintegration of the process of thinking, of contact with reality, and of emotional responsiveness.[1] It most commonly manifests as auditory hallucinations, paranoid or bizarre delusions, or disorganized speech and thinking with significant social or occupational dysfunction.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia

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Take your schizophrenia medication. I know all about you
Schizophrenia is a severe mental illness characterized by a disintegration of the process of thinking, of contact with reality, and of emotional responsiveness.[1] It most commonly manifests as auditory hallucinations, paranoid or bizarre delusions, or disorganized speech and thinking with significant social or occupational dysfunction.
Schizophrenia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Schizophrenia is a severe mental illness characterized by a disintegration of the process of thinking, of contact with reality, and of emotional responsiveness.[1] It most commonly manifests as auditory hallucinations, paranoid or bizarre delusions, or disorganized speech and thinking with significant social or occupational dysfunction.
Schizophrenia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Pedro, time wasted posting is time you could use to clean toilets for your yob
I clean all the toilets in my house, including the guest house, I own my house outright, no mortgage
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Schizophrenia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Pedro, time wasted posting is time you could use to clean toilets for your yob
I clean all the toilets in my house, including the guest house, I own my house outright, no mortgage
maybe you should be looking at a cure for your Asperger syndrome - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You also solicit complete strangers asking them to perform oral sex on you. Remember, Jose?
 
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In order for Obama to coax the Palestinians back to the bargaining table, he most at the very least obtain an extension of the current suspension on new Israeli construction. Conversely, Netanyahu faces rising pressure from far right members of his coalition to resume settlement expansion in East Jerusalem and the West Bank once the freeze expires in September. Indeed, nothing less than the survival of the current coalition government and Netanyahu’s Prime Minister-ship is at stake. Reconciling these two diametrically opposed demands will in all likelihood dominate the next act in the decades-long bit of Kabuki theater that is the Middle East peace process.

Fat chance.

In other words, nothing is going to happen and everything will remain the same. Israel will keep encroaching Palestinian land by building settlements, and the Palestinians will keep supporting Hamas in return. There's never going to be Peace.
 
In order for Obama to coax the Palestinians back to the bargaining table, he most at the very least obtain an extension of the current suspension on new Israeli construction. Conversely, Netanyahu faces rising pressure from far right members of his coalition to resume settlement expansion in East Jerusalem and the West Bank once the freeze expires in September. Indeed, nothing less than the survival of the current coalition government and Netanyahu’s Prime Minister-ship is at stake. Reconciling these two diametrically opposed demands will in all likelihood dominate the next act in the decades-long bit of Kabuki theater that is the Middle East peace process.

Fat chance.

In other words, nothing is going to happen and everything will remain the same. Israel will keep encroaching Palestinian land by building settlements, and the Palestinians will keep supporting Hamas in return. There's never going to be Peace.

Shit-for-brains, Israel has already ceded 50% of the West Bank to the Pallie excrement as well as withdrawing entirely from Gaza.

So, you don't even know what the fuck you're talking about, moron.

Ever look at a map of the Middle East, idiot? 99.9 percent is Arab Muslim.

Too bad you weren't aborted, you waste of plasma
 
In order for Obama to coax the Palestinians back to the bargaining table, he most at the very least obtain an extension of the current suspension on new Israeli construction. Conversely, Netanyahu faces rising pressure from far right members of his coalition to resume settlement expansion in East Jerusalem and the West Bank once the freeze expires in September. Indeed, nothing less than the survival of the current coalition government and Netanyahu’s Prime Minister-ship is at stake. Reconciling these two diametrically opposed demands will in all likelihood dominate the next act in the decades-long bit of Kabuki theater that is the Middle East peace process.

Fat chance.

In other words, nothing is going to happen and everything will remain the same. Israel will keep encroaching Palestinian land by building settlements, and the Palestinians will keep supporting Hamas in return. There's never going to be Peace.

Shit-for-brains, Israel has already ceded 50% of the West Bank to the Pallie excrement as well as withdrawing entirely from Gaza.

So, you don't even know what the fuck you're talking about, moron.

Ever look at a map of the Middle East, idiot? 99.9 percent is Arab Muslim.

Too bad you weren't aborted, you waste of plasma

Shut the fuck up, troll. The fact you have to tell people they should've been aborted because they disagree with you exposes the extent of how pathetic you are.

The Palestinians already ceded 78% of Historic Palestine. If Israel wants peace it will stop building settlements on the remaining 22%, which represents the whole of the West Bank and Gaza, with land swaps negotiated on both sides for the ILLEGAL israeli settlements that are too big to move/clear at this point. No 'Israeli-only highways,' no military outposts surrounding three bantustans, but a whole West Bank - that is the only way Palestine will ever be a viable state.

Your minimization of the Palestinian identity is idiotic. If I claimed that no such thing as an Israeli should exist because there were no Israelis before 1948, I'd rightfully be called a moron. A Palestinian is not an Iraqi, or a Saudi, or an Egyptian, in the same way that a Peruvian is not a Bolivian, a Canadian is not an American, or an Austrian isn't a German.

But I'm done talking to you, you're worthless and you'll continue to be worthless.
 
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The Palestinians already ceded 78% of Historic Palestine.

Shit-for-brains, Pallies ceded nothing because they have owned nothing.

Palestine was sovereign TURKISH land until the Turks surrendered sovereignty after WW I to the Allies.

Pallies leased land in Palestine from the Turks. They were tenant farmers.

Dumbass.

If Israel wants peace it will stop building settlements on the remaining 22%, which represents the whole of the West Bank and Gaza, with land swaps negotiated on both sides for the ILLEGAL israeli settlements that are too big to move/clear at this point. No 'Israeli-only highways,' no military outposts surrounding three bantustans, but a whole West Bank - that is the only way Palestine will ever be a viable state.

Shit-for-brains, Palestine is sovereign Israeli land under the terms of the binding San Remo Resolution and Palestine Mandate, constituting international law.

Israeli communities are entirely LEGAL.

Pallies are illegal alients.

You know less than nothing of the matter, shit-for-brains.

Your minimization of the Palestinian identity is idiotic.

Shit-for-brains, the former PLO leader Zuheir Mohsen minimized the Pallie identiy.
The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct Palestinian people to oppose Zionism.
Zuheir Mohsen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Truth is a bitch, eh, shit-for-brains?
 
No 'Israeli-only highways,' no military outposts surrounding three bantustans, but a whole West Bank - that is the only way Palestine will ever be a viable state.

Shit-for-brains, you're so fucking dumb, you don't know that Israelis are Arabs, Muslims, Christians and Druze, not just Jews.

The reason for Israeli-only highways is sniper fire from Pallies directed to Israeli cars that has injured Israeli Arabs and Jews.

Dumb motherfucker.

The checkpoints are in place to stop Pallie suicide bombers from entering Israel like they did in 2000-2004, slaughtering 1000 Israelis and wounding 6,000 more.

There were no checkpoints prior to Pallie terrorism.

There are security gates at every airport. Israel has the right to security gates into Israel.

And, there is no Palestine, shit-for-brains. Israel encompasses most of Palestine.

You dumb punk ass
 
A Palestinian is not an Iraqi, or a Saudi, or an Egyptian

Shit-for-brains, there is NO ethnic distinction among Pallies, Iraqis, Saudis or Egyptians.

They're all Arabs, you dumbass.

There is no ethnic, religious or cultural group called Palestinians.

Prior to Israeli statement, Jews, not Arabs, were known as Palestinans. Arabs began calling themselves Pallies just in the 1960s.

Previously, Pallies were known as Jordanians and Egyptians. They even stole the Jordanian flag, dropped the star and made it the Palestinian flag.

You stupid ignoramus.
 
Sorry Marc, I only respond to people who use "shit-for-brains" in a response six times or less.

Otherwise it's just obviously not worth it... Shit-for-brains.
 
Sorry Marc, I only respond to people who use "shit-for-brains" in a response six times or less.

Otherwise it's just obviously not worth it... Shit-for-brains.

Translation: You are intellectually ill-equippred to respond to me.

Take a hike.
 
Sorry Marc, I only respond to people who use "shit-for-brains" in a response six times or less.

Otherwise it's just obviously not worth it... Shit-for-brains.

Translation: You are intellectually ill-equippred to respond to me.

Take a hike.

Man, are you serious? This coming from the guy who has to use the exact same insult (a remarkably fucking lame one, by the way) SEVEN times in a response? This coming from the guy who has to tell people they should have been aborted because they disagree? The guy who tells someone to go clean toilets because they're from Spain? Are you serious? From the first time I responded to you I knew it would be a complete waste of time. You're baiting me. You're baiting me into wasting my time. I'll bite, and I'll even put it in a language you can understand.

- Shit-for-brains. The fact that Palestine was a Turkish possession before World War I means absolutely nothing. By your logic the ENTIRE Arab World were just tenant farmers, because it was all part of the Ottoman Empire and hence under Turkish sovereignty. There were Palestinian landowners just as there were land owners anywhere else in the Arab world under Ottoman Rule. You're a moron.

- Shit-for-brains. The Israeli Settlements in the West Bank are illegal under International Law. You can deny this all you want. They are illegal, by any, and every, and all admissions.

Shit-for-brains. There IS no 'San Remo Resolution'. Such a thing does not exist, you COMPLETE RETARD. San Remo was a conference, in which the decisions regarding the borders of the "offspring" states of the Ottoman Empire were to be decided 'later'. The resulting Treaty of Sevres was rejected by Turkey and made void. What we are REALLY talking about here is the Palestine mandate and the Balfour Declaration, which as a basis for independence or statehood, is lame, considering that what we are talking about here is an imperial power taking over the land of an another Imperial power and giving it away to a third party with total disregard for the existing population through a flimsy letter that says almost nothing and is in direct opposition to a number of other treaties that the British were making at the same time. Since you are obviously a total ignorant, I'll have to explain it to you: In the post-WWI period, Britain simultaneously promised the Jews a home in Palestine and the resident Arabs their own self-determination, all the while conniving with the French to split the holdings and control everything.

Shit-for-brains. This is the ENTIRETY of the Balfour Declaration:

Dear Lord Rothschild,
I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet:
"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country".
I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.
Yours sincerely
Arthur James Balfour

Shit-for-brains. As you can well see, there is nothing here about borders, there is no mention of STATEHOOD, there is no mention of the right to drive the Palestinians out or bulldozing their homes. There is nothing there. Not only that, but like I said before, it conflicts with the similarly vague counterpart to this; the Anglo-French Declaration of 1918, which promised the "complete and final liberation of the peoples who have for so long been oppressed by the Turks," which, as you so cleverly stated, includes the people of Palestine. Even ol' Balfour saw that all of this was contradictory:

Letter from Balfour to George Curzon said:
"The contradiction between the letters of the Covenant [of the League of Nations] and the policy of the Allies is even more flagrant in the case of the ‘independent nation’ of Palestine than in that of the ‘independent nation‘ of Syria. For in Palestine we do not propose to even go through the form of consulting the wishes of the present inhabitants of the country though the American [King-Crane] Commission is going through the form of asking what they are.
The Four Great Powers [Britain, France, Italy and the United States] are committed to Zionism. And Zionism, be it right or wrong, good or bad, is rooted in age-long traditions, in present needs, and future hopes, of far profounder import than the desires and prejudices of the 700,000 Arabs who now inhabit that ancient land. In my opinion that is right.
What I have never been able to understand is how it can be harmonized with the [Anglo-French] declaration, the Covenant, or the instruction to the [King-Crane] Commission of Enquiry.

Shit-for-brains. Either way, this discussion is useless. I'm not against the existence of Israel, or its causes. The fact is that there is a state in Israel. It's a State with a government, an army, and recognized boundaries, boundaries which engulf its 20,770 square kilometers in area, and do NOT include the 6,000 square km of the Occupied Palestinian Territories, so moving on...

Shit-for-brains. The Settlements are Illegal. They have been found illegal time and time again by everybody, ever. I mean that.

UN Security Council Resolution 446

Affirming once more that the Fourth Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War of 12 August 1949 1/ is applicable to the Arab territories occupied by Israel since 1967, including Jerusalem,
1. Determines that the policy and practices of Israel in establishing settlements in the Palestinian and other Arab territories occupied since 1967 have no legal validity and constitute a serious obstruction to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East;
2. Strongly deplores the failure of Israel to abide by Security Council resolutions 237 (1967) of 14 June 1967, 252 (1968) of 21 May 1968 and 298 (1971) of 25 September 1971 and the consensus statement by the President of the Security Council on 11 November 1976 2/ and General Assembly resolutions 2253 (ES-V) and 2254 (ES-V) of 4 and 14 July 1967, 32/5 of 28 October 1977 and 33/113 of 18 December 1978;
3. Calls once more upon Israel, as the occupying Power, to abide scrupulously by the 1949 Fourth Geneva Convention, to rescind its previous measures and to desist from taking any action which would result in changing the legal status and geographical nature and materially affecting the demographic composition of the Arab territories occupied since 1967, including Jerusalem, and, in particular, not to transfer parts of its own civilian population into the occupied Arab territories;

Or what about Resolution 452, 465, 471, 476? They all passed with 14 votes to none; 1 abstention from the US.

Or General Assembly Resolutions? How about Resolution 61/118?

1. Reaffirms that the Israeli settlements in the Palestinian territory, including East Jerusalem, and in the occupied Syrian Golan are illegal and an obstacle to peace and economic and social development;
2. Calls upon Israel to accept the de jure applicability of the Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War, of 12 August 1949, to the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem, and to the occupied Syrian Golan and to abide scrupulously by the provisions of the Convention, in particular article 49;
3. Notes the Israeli withdrawal from within the Gaza Strip and parts of the northern West Bank and the importance of the dismantlement of the settlements therein as a step towards the implementation of the road map and the need for the parties to speedily resolve all remaining issues in the Gaza Strip;
4. Calls upon Israel, the occupying Power, to comply strictly with its obligations under international law, including international humanitarian law, with respect to the alteration of the character, status and demographic composition of the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem;
5. Reiterates its demand for the immediate and complete cessation of all Israeli settlement activities in all of the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem, and in the occupied Syrian Golan, and calls in this regard for the full implementation of the relevant Security Council resolutions, including resolution 465 (1980);

You know how this one passed? Here, let me show you:

The draft resolution on Israeli settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem, and the occupied Syrian Golan (document A/63/401) was adopted by a recorded vote of 171 in favour to 6 against, with 2 abstentions, as follows:

In favour: Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, Andorra, Angola, Antigua and Barbuda, Argentina, Armenia, Australia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Belgium, Belize, Benin, Bhutan, Bolivia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Botswana, Brazil, Brunei Darussalam, Bulgaria, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cambodia, Canada, Cape Verde, Central African Republic, Chile, China, Colombia, Comoros, Congo, Costa Rica, Croatia, Cuba, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, Denmark, Djibouti, Dominica, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Egypt, El Salvador, Eritrea, Estonia, Ethiopia, Finland, France, Gabon, Georgia, Germany, Ghana, Greece, Grenada, Guatemala, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, Haiti, Honduras, Hungary, Iceland, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Ireland, Italy, Jamaica, Japan, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Lao People’s Democratic Republic, Latvia, Lebanon, Lesotho, Liberia, Libya, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malawi, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali, Malta, Mauritania, Mauritius, Mexico, Monaco, Mongolia, Montenegro, Morocco, Mozambique, Myanmar, Namibia, Nepal, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Niger, Nigeria, Norway, Oman, Pakistan, Panama, Papua New Guinea, Paraguay, Peru, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Republic of Korea, Republic of Moldova, Romania, Russian Federation, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Samoa, San Marino, Sao Tome and Principe, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Serbia, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, Solomon Islands, South Africa, Spain, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Suriname, Swaziland, Sweden, Switzerland, Syria, Tajikistan, Thailand, The former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, Timor-Leste, Togo, Trinidad and Tobago, Tunisia, Turkey, Turkmenistan, Tuvalu, Uganda, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom, United Republic of Tanzania, Uruguay, Uzbekistan, Vanuatu , Venezuela, Viet Nam, Yemen, Zambia, Zimbabwe.

Against: Israel, Marshall Islands, Micronesia (Federated States of), Nauru, Palau, United States.

Ouch, that's embarassing. I'd post Resolutions 61/118, 62/108, 64/93, or any of the dozens about this same thing. Or the International Court of Justice's 2004 ruling on settlements (found illegal, by all justice's save for the US's representative, again). Or the fact that the Israeli-only settlements violate article 3 of the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination. Or the Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, or B'Tselem reports on the illegality of the settlements. But I'm tired, and it would be useless. OF COURSE, the Great Marc89, from USMB, knows far more about international law than everybody else in the planet. Oh, I forgot to put it at the beginning of this paragraph, so I'll put it at the end: Shit-for-brains. Just trying to maintain your attention.

- The rest of your claims are idiotic drivel. Your claim that there are no ethnic distinctions between Palestinians and Jordanians means absolutely nothing. It is completely irrelevant. They are obviously both Arab peoples. There are no ethnic distinctions between Austrians and Germans either. So what? There are no ethnic distinctions between East Timorese or West Timorese, but the former is an independent state while the other is part of Indonesia. There are no "ethnic distinctions" between Hondurans and Guatemalans, yet they are both different countries. What "ethnic distinctions" are there between White Canadians and White Americans? How does this de-legitimizes Palestinian claims to self-determination? It doesn't. The Palestinian struggle is a national struggle. Oh, right, Shit-for-brains. Almost missed this one.

- Shit-for-brains. "There were no checkpoints prior to Pallie terrorism" must be a joke. 2000 to 2004? You mean after 33 to 37 YEARS of military occupation, settler colonialism and forced evictions? Yeah, I WONDER why Palestinians just randomly started committing acts of terrorism. You make it seem as though everything was just jolly good down in Canaan until rockets started getting fired at Israel for no reason. 35 YEARS OF OCCUPATION was what it took for the first Qassam rocket to hit Israel in 2002. I WONDER, I'm just so curious to know how long it would take a red-blooded ultranationalist American to set off a rocket at an occupying power. Of course, always BEING the occupying power probably fucks with the perception of things.

Well, fuck it. I've wasted enough time. I'm no longer interested in this debate. One day soon there will be a free, independent state in Palestine, and there's nothing that you "Shit-for-brains" can do about it.
 

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