Alcohol 'more dangerous than crack, heroin and Ecstasy'

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    Professor David Nutt: Alcohol 'more harmful than heroin, crack and Ecstasy' | Mail Online

    "Scientists have found that alcohol is the most harmful drug overall and three times as harmful as cocaine and tobacco, according to a new scale of drug harm that rates the damage to both users and to wider society.

    Ecstasy is only an eighth as harmful as alcohol, according to the new analysis, led by the controversial sacked government drugs adviser David Nutt with colleagues from the breakaway Independent Scientific Committee on Drugs.

    The study says that if drugs were classified on the basis of the harm they do, alcohol would be class A, alongside heroin and crack cocaine.

    The findings of the study, published in the Lancet today, are likely to reignite the debate over the governmentÂ’s drugs classification system."
     
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    but booze has billions of dollars for lobbyist, the other drugs have zip.
     
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    I read this yesterday. This study couldn't be more wrong. They should be ashamed of themselves for putting out such false garbage. Alcohol worse than crack and heroine? Are you fucking kidding me?!?!?!

    Anyone that believes alcohol is more harmful and dangerous than crack and heroine is clueless and not grounded in reality.

    Let me ask you all this. If your adult child was going to do crack/heroine or have a Budweiser...which would you rather him do?

    This poll is ridiculous and sends the wrong message to our younger kids. I can see some 18-year old and saying, "Hell, since alcohol is maore dangerous maybe I'll skip the bar and go get a crack rock, smoke that, and then go shoot my arm up with heroine. Afterall, it's safer than drinking that Heineken.

    These people should be ashamed of themselves. I smell an agenda at work here.
     
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    and your GED qualifies you how?
     
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    It's not fact... it is a result of a study. One study. Key word: "claims".... the study claims. It does not confirm or establish... it 'claims'. This is the problem with science... the scientific results are misrepresented by those with an agenda.
     
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    no doubt in total booze cost the economy the most, I'm sure crack for the individual is worse though powder is probably fractional to booze.
     
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    LOL, the problem with science is ...misrepresented by those with an agenda.; If there is an agenda, it is not science.
    That said, in the overall picture, I agree alcohol is the greatest social problem, by far.
    Alcohol abuse is a major factor in DUI's, Domestic Violence, Assaults and Battery's, vandalism, homelessness, emergency room visits, work accidents and accidents in the home (falls, etc), child neglect and abuse, abscenteeism from work and chronic illness associated with alcoholism, poor nutrition, liver cancer, heart disease and diabetes. As well as rants by some moderators on this very message board.
     
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    The only way I could ever see alcohol being any deadlier than crack, heroin, or ecstasy is because it is so much easier to get a hold of than many of those drugs. I guess my only question for this "Nutt" is by what scale he used? Was he comparing drinking an entire bottle of Jack Daniels to the equivalent(price) of ecstasy or heroin?
     
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    Yep, you're right. I worded that very badly.
     
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    I saw this in the news yesterday.

    I can only accept it if it means that Alcohol has more wide-spread negative effects on Society, being that it's LEGAL, and more people indulge in the activity.

    I cannot agree if the study means that Heroin is a less Dangerous drug for the INDIVIDUAL.

    This study truly is Dangerous to release like this. I wonder how many idiots think that it's an endorsement to go on some crack. Yay!
     

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