montelatici
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"planning"...Ethnic cleansing was not a consequence of war. It was the reason for the war.
The Zionists wanted a majority Jewish state where the Jews were only 1/3 of the population. That meant that a lot of Palestinians had to go. There was no other option.
As Coyote also said -- it worked both ways. Both Jewish nationalists and Arab nationalists wanted (needed, need) a homogeneous enough population to bring about a national self-determination. And both groups created "facts on the ground" by using military strength to rid the territory they controlled of the "enemy" population. That is what the war was.
After WWI and WWII, when the time of large Empires came to an end, smaller, tribal-based nationalities became the norm. An exchange of population as a consequence of distinct, smaller nationalisms was quite normal for the times and even fifty years later -- see examples such as Yugoslavia. In fact, there are numbers in the millions of peoples who were transferred. It was common. (And, in nearly every case, it actually solved the problem).
But it is an error to claim that it was (is) only one side which wanted (needed, wants, needs) a relatively homogeneous population. Let alone that only one side managed to accomplish such a thing! If we compare the two sides we see that the Arabs were FAR more successful in their removal of Jews throughout the Arab world than the Jews were in removal of Arabs on the tiny slice that is now Israel or on the slightly larger slice which should have been the Jewish National Homeland. Whether that is a result of incompetence on the part of the Jewish people (unlikely) or a lack of will is of no consequence except on silly forums like this one.
The point being that there is no moral equivalence between an EQUAL requirement for a homogeneous population and the military will and power to create such a reality in war and the deliberate, systematic extermination of a peoples.
How can you compare the rights of the people inhabiting a territory with the rights of the people living on another continent planning to colonize the territory? Don't you realize it's an altogether crazy concept?
Yes planning.
"Zionists plan to colonize Palestine in 1899 NY Times
An article about a Conference of Zionists published on July 20, 1899 in the New York Times depicts how the Conference sought to “colonize Palestine” and discussed the purchasing of land with English Zionists.
World Bulletin/News Desk
An article about a Conference of Zionists published on July 20, 1899 in the New York Times expresses that the Zionists “will colonize Palestine.”
The article explains that the conference discussed a paper from the English Zionist Federation “proposing the re-establishment of Judea as an independent State, suggesting the purchase of the Maccabean sites in Palestine, and the beginning of the work by the establishment of a Jewish colony and a Jewish Agricultural College there.”
It further clarifies that “The site to be purchased comprises about fifty acres, six miles from a station on the railroad between Jappa and Jerusalem, and within sight of the sea and a large stretch of the Palestinian coast.”
It notes that English Zionists have gathered 2,500 dollars in the currency of the period and request that quantity from the American Zionists.
The article also explains that “On motion of Dr. Wise, the Federation voted $100 as the nucleus of the required fund of $2,500, the remainder to be raised by subscriptions from the 125 societies and individuals, both Jews and Gentiles. A general appeal to the public will be made.”
It also conveys that delegates will be elected at the Zionist meeting in Baltimore.
The straightforward and comfortable manner with which the colonization is pursued is indicative how, before having to be concerned with the image of Zionism and public relations, Zionist leaders depicted their movement as a colonial mission during a time in which European nations were colonial powers. "
Zionists plan to colonize Palestine in 1899 NY Times - World Bulletin