after this would you trust the RNC to reform health care?

I did not say that at all. I only said what I said.

Keep on spinning though. :beer:

There's no spin. Obama has cozied up to the banks and big companies when it suited him, and thrown them under the bus when it didnt.
The largest corporate contributions from Wall St went to Obama in the election. To paint Republicans as tools of corporate America is plain contrary to fact. They are tools of Middle America.

And you deny spin with more spin?

Please feel free to point out where I have spun anything. Obama and his crew have rushed to pump billions of taxpayer dollars into big corporations, mainly as a payoff to the unions. Big Wall St money went to the Democrats in the last presidential election. If you have something to refute either of those statements, post it. Otherwise stfu.
 
I have yet to see a single piece of information that supports the republicans had any interest at all in healthcare, except maybe lining their pockets from K Street. Nothing, nada, no a single thing and yet the buffoons on the right post 10 word replies confirming what? Their own lack of thought!

But I will post a few links I have reviewed or consulted for the interested. I do not have time to educate the stupid. Plus they may remain stupid; you know what they say about horses and water.


Need for UHC
10 Health Care Reform Myths - CBS News
Why markets can’t cure healthcare - Paul Krugman Blog - NYTimes.com
Carl Ginsburg: The Actually Existing Health Care System
http://www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/82/2/PHCBP.pdf

excesssive insurance profit
US Health Care Puts Profit over People


The World Health Organization's ranking of the world's health systems
Snapshots: Health Care Spending in the United States and OECD Countries - Kaiser Family Foundation
Health Care Statistics | Health Care Problems
http://www.nchc.org/facts/coverage.shtml


Single Payer

Dissident Voice : Why Women Need Single Payer
A Better-Quality Alternative: Single-Payer National Health System Reform | Physicians for a National Health Program
Baucus to Meet with Single-Payer Advocates | CommonDreams.org

HC and genuine Christians

Sojourners : Faith in Action
Truth-telling and Responsibility in Health Care - Jim Wallis - God's Politics Blog
Dan Nejfelt: Christians Weigh In On Health Care Reform
Rob Warmowski: Christians, Please Report to the Health Insurance Reform Debate

health and children

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/04/magazine/04anxiety-t.html?em
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/29/health/29brod.html?em

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You're welcome Democrats. Scott Brown will now swoop in and save your sorry a*ses on health care. Now just unlock those meeting room doors and let em in. Seriously,how could Reid & Pelosi manage to f*ck up a Super Majority? Yikes!
 
Wow Midcan, you publish a collection of links from socialists, known opponents of capitalism, Universal Health Care special interest groups and political hacks.

And then you try to claim credibilty?

Oy vey!
 
I have yet to see a single piece of information that supports the republicans had any interest at all in healthcare, except maybe lining their pockets from K Street. Nothing, nada, no a single thing and yet the buffoons on the right post 10 word replies confirming what? Their own lack of thought!

ask and Ye shall receive

YouTube - A health care plan for America

here is a list of the bills the republicans introduced that the dems have shut down

Republican Health Care Plans shot down by the Democrat congress


H.R. 198 Health Care Tax Deduction Act
H.R. 502 Health Care Freedom of Choice Act
H.R. 544 Flexible Health Savings Act
H.R. 879 Affordable Health Care Expansion Act
H.R. 1891 Sunset of Life Protection Act
H.R. 2607 The Small Business Health Fairness Act
H.R. 3217 Health Care Choice Act
H.R. 3218 Improving Health Care for All Americans Act
H.R. 3508 Healthy Savings Act
H.R. 3821 Improved Employee Access to Health Insurance Act
H.R. 3822 Improved Access to Employer Financed Health Insurance Act
H.R. 3823 Medicaid and SCHIP Beneficiary Choice Improvement Act
H.R. 3824 Expanded Health Insurance Options Act





Rooting Out Waste, Fraud, Abuse and Enhancing Transparency

H.R. 27 Medicare Fraud Prevention and Enforcement Act
R. 203 Medicare Fraud Prevention Act
H.R. 2249 Health Care Price Transparency Promotion Act
H.R. 2785 Health Care Paperwork Reduction and Fraud Prevention Act



Medical Liability Reform

H.R. 1086 Help Efficient, Accessible, Low-cost, Timely Healthcare Act
H.R. 1468 Medical Justice Act
H.R. 2787 Medical Liability Procedural Reform Act
H.R. 2975 Medical Practice Protection Act
H.R. 3372 Health Care Over Use Reform Today Act



Prevention/Wellness

H.R. 3468 Promoting Health and Preventing Chronic Disease through Prevention and Wellness Programs for Employees, Communities, and Individuals Act



Preserving Doctor/Patient Relationship

H.R. 2516 Medical Rights Act
H.R. 3002 Patients Act

Ok?
 
Oh how dare you post something right from the House's own website! You evil evil person you!

:funnyface: :lol:
 
I have yet to see a single piece of information that supports the republicans had any interest at all in healthcare, except maybe lining their pockets from K Street. Nothing, nada, no a single thing and yet the buffoons on the right post 10 word replies confirming what? Their own lack of thought!

But I will post a few links I have reviewed or consulted for the interested. I do not have time to educate the stupid. Plus they may remain stupid; you know what they say about horses and water.
for you to post that and call ANYONE else stupid, is massively ironic
 
Wow Midcan, you publish a collection of links from socialists, known opponents of capitalism, Universal Health Care special interest groups and political hacks....

It is too easy to label and not think I guess.


"Labels are for cans, not people." Anthony Rapp
 
Wow Midcan, you publish a collection of links from socialists, known opponents of capitalism, Universal Health Care special interest groups and political hacks....

It is too easy to label and not think I guess.


"Labels are for cans, not people." Anthony Rapp
Anthony Rapp is a can of shit then. A halfwitty rejoinder in an attempt to form the illusion of wisdom. To quote Oscar Wilde, "There are witty people, and those who QUOTE witty people."

This being said...

You libs use labels all the time, but squeal like a baby pig when they're used on you and you don't like them.

The real purpose of labels is to give a handle to large chunks of data, philosophical concepts and descriptive titles in which you can quickly convey positions, and information.

For instance, calling you a liberal idiot conveys two very important concepts. One, you support socialism and collectivism, eschewing individual rights and property as well as describing your lack of mental accumen.

It's accuracy infuriates you, so you choose to attack the label instead of the intelligent thing and recant from your failed philosophy and smarten up to the realities of this world that collectivism can never succeed.
 
Wow Midcan, you publish a collection of links from socialists, known opponents of capitalism, Universal Health Care special interest groups and political hacks....

It is too easy to label and not think I guess.


"Labels are for cans, not people." Anthony Rapp
Anthony Rapp is a can of shit then. A halfwitty rejoinder in an attempt to form the illusion of wisdom. To quote Oscar Wilde, "There are witty people, and those who QUOTE witty people."

This being said...

You libs use labels all the time, but squeal like a baby pig when they're used on you and you don't like them.

The real purpose of labels is to give a handle to large chunks of data, philosophical concepts and descriptive titles in which you can quickly convey positions, and information.

For instance, calling you a liberal idiot conveys two very important concepts. One, you support socialism and collectivism, eschewing individual rights and property as well as describing your lack of mental accumen.

It's accuracy infuriates you, so you choose to attack the label instead of the intelligent thing and recant from your failed philosophy and smarten up to the realities of this world that collectivism can never succeed.

The issue of labels comes up quite a bit among my group of friends, because we are all people who don't fit well into any predetermined group. However, labels can be a useful communication shortcut to convey certain important information. Therefore, our consensus is that the idea is to consider labels as a guideline, not as a cage. They are tools, not masters.
 
It is too easy to label and not think I guess.


"Labels are for cans, not people." Anthony Rapp
Anthony Rapp is a can of shit then. A halfwitty rejoinder in an attempt to form the illusion of wisdom. To quote Oscar Wilde, "There are witty people, and those who QUOTE witty people."

This being said...

You libs use labels all the time, but squeal like a baby pig when they're used on you and you don't like them.

The real purpose of labels is to give a handle to large chunks of data, philosophical concepts and descriptive titles in which you can quickly convey positions, and information.

For instance, calling you a liberal idiot conveys two very important concepts. One, you support socialism and collectivism, eschewing individual rights and property as well as describing your lack of mental accumen.

It's accuracy infuriates you, so you choose to attack the label instead of the intelligent thing and recant from your failed philosophy and smarten up to the realities of this world that collectivism can never succeed.

The issue of labels comes up quite a bit among my group of friends, because we are all people who don't fit well into any predetermined group. However, labels can be a useful communication shortcut to convey certain important information. Therefore, our consensus is that the idea is to consider labels as a guideline, not as a cage. They are tools, not masters.
Bingo. You getsa cookie... since I cant rep you again for a little while. ;)
 
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Anthony Rapp is a can of shit then. A halfwitty rejoinder in an attempt to form the illusion of wisdom. To quote Oscar Wilde, "There are witty people, and those who QUOTE witty people."

This being said...

You libs use labels all the time, but squeal like a baby pig when they're used on you and you don't like them.

The real purpose of labels is to give a handle to large chunks of data, philosophical concepts and descriptive titles in which you can quickly convey positions, and information.

For instance, calling you a liberal idiot conveys two very important concepts. One, you support socialism and collectivism, eschewing individual rights and property as well as describing your lack of mental accumen.

It's accuracy infuriates you, so you choose to attack the label instead of the intelligent thing and recant from your failed philosophy and smarten up to the realities of this world that collectivism can never succeed.

The issue of labels comes up quite a bit among my group of friends, because we are all people who don't fit well into any predetermined group. However, labels can be a useful communication shortcut to convey certain important information. Therefore, our consensus is that the idea is to consider labels as a guideline, not as a cage. They are tools, not masters.
Bingo. You getsa cookie... since I cant rep you again for a little while. ;)

Snickerdoodles? :eusa_drool:
 
Well, thanks for reminding me of some more useless trivia. The invention of the Chocolate Chip cookie.

Used to be chocolate cookies were the rage around the year 1900. During a state fair cooking contest, I dont' remember the woman's name (this IS off the top of my head) didn't have time to melt the chocolate into the dough, so she thought she may use the heat of the baking to melt it throughout the cookies. Of course, it did melt, into the pockets we now know and love as the world's favorite cookie: the Chocolate Chip cookie.

mmmmm... now I want some too... :(
 
Much more than i do the DNC at this point. My God,what a disaster. Seriously though,how could Pelosi & Reid manage to f*ck up a Super Majority? That ain't no easy feat brutha. Don't worry though,Scott Brown's on the way to save their sorry a*ses. Go get em Mr. Brown! ;)
 
The GOP does not want anything to do with HC reform. They are confident that a NO! concerning health care will take Obama down.

Basically....Party before Country
 

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