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I found some pictures of severely deform infants being kept alive on life support. Babies with their brains and spinal cords exposed.
With all the talk about abortion exceptions (rape, incest, health of mother) why does no one talk about the health / quality of life of the baby?
What about these exceptions:
Deformity.
Severe Deformity.
Retardation.
Severe retardation.
Down Syndrome.
Malformed Heart.
Malformed Spinal Chord.
When parents who only want to have a healthy baby find out their baby-to-be will have serious and often painful health issues (may even die soon after being born), why aren't we discussion why the GOPs think they have any business in that conversation.
By all means... Let's get selective about who we kill. I'm sure that will lead to: "but I really wanted a girl this time". Seems to me that if you can detect the abnormalities you have listed... The argument that it isn't a child yet ship has already sailed. You baby killers are a really sick bunch.
I know they can't determine whether or not a baby has down's until the fifth month.
That isn't zygote or an embryo. That's a baby.
Screening tests during pregnancy
Various screening tests can help identify whether you have a high risk of carrying a baby with Down syndrome. In the past, blood tests typically have been offered around the 16th week of pregnancy to screen for Down syndrome, spina bifida and various other chromosomal disorders.
Currently, more women are electing the first trimester combined test, done in two steps during week 11 to 13 of pregnancy. The first trimester combined test includes:
Ultrasound. The doctor uses ultrasound to measure a specific region on the back of a baby's neck. This is known as a nuchal translucency screening test. When abnormalities are present, more fluid than usual tends to collect in this tissue.
Blood tests. Results of the ultrasound are paired with blood tests that measure levels of pregnancy-associated plasma protein-A (PAPP-A) and a hormone known as human chorionic gonadotropin (HCG). Abnormal levels of PAPP-A and HCG may indicate a problem with the baby.
If early assessment isn't your first priority, you can have full integrated testing, which is done in two parts during the first two trimesters of your pregnancy. The results of the two parts are combined to estimate the risk that your baby has Down syndrome. This test can achieve the same level of detection as the first trimester combined test but with a lower false-positive rate, meaning that fewer women are incorrectly identified as carrying a baby with Down syndrome.
Hazel thinks we should kill babies he doesn't want to look at.
With all the talk about abortion exceptions (rape, incest, health of mother) why does no one talk about the health / quality of life of the baby?
What about these exceptions:
Deformity.
Severe Deformity.
Retardation.
Severe retardation.
Down Syndrome.
Malformed Heart.
Malformed Spinal Chord.
When parents who only want to have a healthy baby find out their baby-to-be will have serious and often painful health issues (may even die soon after being born), why aren't we discussion why the GOPs think they have any business in that conversation.
Hearts can be fixed. There is so many things that can help deformed spines . I guess you want every child that is not 100 percent perfect to be aborted. Same like Hitler wanted a master race.. HUH....
If early assessment isn't your first priority, you can have full integrated testing, which is done in two parts during the first two trimesters of your pregnancy. The results of the two parts are combined to estimate the risk that your baby has Down syndrome. This test can achieve the same level of detection as the first trimester combined test but with a lower false-positive rate, meaning that fewer women are incorrectly identified as carrying a baby with Down syndrome.
They don't know they have those disorders when they're zygotes and embryos, baby killer.
Hazel thinks we should kill babies he doesn't want to look at.
Don't put words in my mouth.
Where did I say that?
I am against causing babies (live babies) to suffer pain for months and then die.
I am against you determining for me what is quality of life.
I am against causing babies (live babies) to suffer pain for months and then die.
I am against you determining for me what is quality of life.
I found some pictures of severely deform infants being kept alive on life support. Babies with their brains and spinal cords exposed.
If their on life support and can't live without it......there is legal and ethical protocol to deal with the cessation of life support.
I am against causing babies (live babies) to suffer pain for months and then die.
I am against you determining for me what is quality of life.
But "you" will decide for the parents who choose to give their children a chance.
I found some pictures of severely deform infants being kept alive on life support. Babies with their brains and spinal cords exposed.
If their on life support and can't live without it......there is legal and ethical protocol to deal with the cessation of life support.
And there is a legal and ethical protocol to deal with termination of a pregnancy...
Why do you want to fuck with that?
By all means... Let's get selective about who we kill.
We terminate life support every day. We remove feeding tubes and turn off life support in a compassionate manner. WHEN THE FAMILY DECIDES!!
Elderly patients are given morphine when they get pneumonia. (morphine helps them die w/o pain) Doctors call pneumonia the old persons friend.
That's called compassion.
I'm sure that will lead to: "but I really wanted a girl this time".
The slippery slope does not apply as I was very specific. Don't straw man me, okay?
Seems to me that if you can detect the abnormalities you have listed... The argument that it isn't a child yet ship has already sailed. You baby killers are a really sick bunch.
How do you jump from Zygote/embryo to baby? A non-viable fetus can not live outside the womb. A non-viable fetus w/o a spinal chord will a die a painful death durning delivery. Why would you not terminate that pregnancy?
Do you like to cause babies pain and then let them die?
And who are you to decide for me what is quality of life.
Don't you people realize you lose the fight as soon as you go to the 'baby killer' extreme?
I am against causing babies (live babies) to suffer pain for months and then die.
I am against you determining for me what is quality of life.
But "you" will decide for the parents who choose to give their children a chance.
Where did I say that?
If their on life support and can't live without it......there is legal and ethical protocol to deal with the cessation of life support.
And there is a legal and ethical protocol to deal with termination of a pregnancy...
Why do you want to fuck with that?
I don't. Either does Mitt Romney in the extreme cases you put forth as the norm.
Can you show me where he specifically said he would not sign any legislation restricting abortions?
But "you" will decide for the parents who choose to give their children a chance.
Where did I say that?
"I am against causing babies (live babies) to suffer pain for months and then die."
- Hazlnut
Can you show me where he specifically said he would not sign any legislation restricting abortions?
Romney promises no abortion legislation - Yahoo! Finance
Still unclear is what Romney would do if a Republican-controlled Congress passed abortion legislation and presented it to him to sign into law.