A Thought on Judaism...no "pie in the sky"

that is changing slowly. some jews dump the democrats if they become wealthy. i dumped them after 6 years in the navy.5 of my cousins vote gop.
I is a jew----registered democrat since the DAY I turned 21. ----Trump is my first
REPUB VOTE for president (when kerry was on the ticket I abstained) I ain't
wealthy. I AM WAITING FOR THE DONKEY TO RECOVER
 
I am of no sect. God called me directly. All of the churches have been wrong for a long time. I am working on changing that. The mouth and tongue must not be perverted. People called pedophilia people are not perverts. They are people who do what life does. Pedophilia people are not wanting populate the world, taking over. Catholic church, and Baal, are the same. What one did, so will the other. The church hides evil behind the word sex. It is a false facade. Muslims want to take over the world, and the people on it, not being the name. Pedophilia people don't have that mentality. Our mentality needs to be that of Christ, being good to people, considering the life of living things. Muslims love the name Muslim, and the being they bow down to who is distant, not caring about anyone, not able to call that beings self Father God. Can't Muslims be smart realizing that they are obeying a being who is faking it? Where am I wrong? Man did not write the Bible. Carnal minds could not have instructions on how to be righteous. Counsel and wisdom would not be found therein. People would have praised the murderous enemies of Jesus. Jesus said woe into them in many ways. The Bible would not read in the way it reads, that is contrary to the way a sinful mind thinks. The carnal mind will not think of what is written, saying this is the peacful way. Walk ye in it. The carnal mind thinks that vex means sex, not realizing that they are vexing people with what they say. How can a natural man write a book, that corrects errors, that people don't even think of? Muslims read the Quran. They that don't memorize it, are killed. They are seen as being infidels. Don't ask a Muslim a question. Truth will not be spoken to you. They practice taqiyya. They think they are smart when they do that. Jesus did not do that, and never will do that.
Our mentality needs to be that of Christ ...

how is being without a "sect" ... refers to a messiah - - which called you.
 
nationalism has nothing to do with the right-wing concept, including some of the Nazis were absolute left, the left wing of National Socialism, including Goebbels.
In fact, the restrictions on the rights of Jews in Europe were not nationalism at all, it was just that the aristocracy saw in them a danger in terms of mixing and seizing power through government and financial mechanisms, there was no chauvinism.
And contrary the left-wing Prussians have been nationalists since the days of the Hohenzollerns.

Nothing to do? I think you're wise enough to admit the logical fallacy.
Then again why the need to separate? As with collective archetypes,
these social tendencies can vary on all political spectrum.

Nationalists can be right or left wing,
Socialists can be nationalists or globalist.
When any of these totally denied it fails else.

As for the restrictions you can theorize about whatever cause or period,
those can be completely contradictory simultaneously or sporadically,
again - those defying all categories, expected to have answers

...or else...
 
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Rabbi Kook Z"L, the first chief Rabbi of Israel - On Evolution

Darwin Day:
"The doctrine of evolution...has a greater affinity with the secret teachings of the Kabbalah than all other philosophies. In probing the inner meaning of evolution towards an improved state, we find here an explanation of the divine concepts with absolute clarity.

It is precisely the Eyn Sof in action that manages to bring the realization of the infinite potentiality. Evolution sheds light on all the ways of God."

- Rabbi Kook Ztz"l - Orot HaKodesh 2:155
(written in approx. 1910)​

 
While I have read the Torah and some commentaries, I have only a passing understanding of jewish beliefs. I also have the distinct impression that there is a very broad range of beliefs within judaism about very basic issues. Hell, some jews admit to being atheists and agnostics.

But it is my distinct understanding that judaism has no formalized or universal belief in an afterlife, and individual jews have beliefs that are "all over the lot," on that subject. Some believe that dead is dead...done and gone. Others have varying different beliefs about conditions in the hereafter, who will end up there, and so on. Dennis Prager bases his belief on a belief that God is "just." If that is the case, the a virtuous life will be rewarded in the afterlife and an evil life will be punished - if only with oblivion. Indeed, if God is just, then there MUST be a "balancing" in the afterlife because many virtuous people die penniless and wretched, and any evil people die in the lap of luxury, so to speak.

But the more important question is how the lack of a "pie in the sky" impacts the day to day decisions of jews in how to conduct their affairs. If there is no accountability, then the Torah can speak of moral and ethical behavior, and emphasize it, but there are (obviously) no ramifications for most people. This is clearly observable in life.

Christians are encouraged to "love" everyone, especially their "enemies," and Christian charities thrive all over the world, educating, feeding, housing, and providing medical care to people who may or may not believe anything that Christianity teaches. Most Christians believe that these good works will impact how they live out "eternity," so to speak.

Jewish charities tend to benefit exclusively jews (correct me if I'm wrong). Are there any avowedly Muslim charities. Bhuddist charities, etc.? I don't know.

There is a perception abroad - maybe it's just bigotry - that jews tend to (a) be entrepreneurial - which is understandable, and (b) they tend to lean toward businesses that exploit the exploitable...pawn shops, check cashing businesses, jewelry stores, slum apartment buildings, flashy clothing stores in "urban" neighborhoods, and so on. These are things that "Christians" tend to shy away from, as they are unseemly.

So again, how does the lack of a Pie in the Sky affect the everyday decision making of "good jews"? Or does it? I have never seen any study that explored the moral or ethical behavior of different religious groups. Does such a study exist?
The Jews during biblical times believed in the afterlife. That is why they carried their descendants bones with them. To watch them rise from out of their graves.


Joshua 24:32
And Joseph’s bones, which the Israelites had brought up from Egypt, were buried at Shechem in the tract of land that Jacob bought for a hundred pieces of silver from the sons of Hamor, the father of Shechem. This became the inheritance of Joseph’s descendants.

Daniel 12:2
Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt.

Job 19:26
And after my skin has been destroyed, yet in my flesh I will see God;

Ezekiel 37:13
Then you, my people, will know that I am the Lord, when I open your graves and bring you up from them.

Matthew 27:52
and the tombs broke open. The bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life.
 
Neitzche and God - The shallowness of the society is not affected by the deep contents of awe before God

Founder of The Noahide World Center,
Rabbi Oury 'Amos Sherki -

What is it, 'to know God'?
There're those who say 'I believe in existence of power above', kind of shallowness like that. Yes, Rabbi Avraham HaCohen Kook says - this too, the definition of God looks ridiculous, correct? Because they haven't learned it in depth.

Again we feel here the intellectual streams of the Rabbi's time,
that are revolting against the belief in God.

Among many, the Positivism and also, our acquainted from primordial days, Nietzsche, and also many others who saw in the definition of God a kind of fiction, overburdening the human soul. And that humanity has to release from it, not to do with the awe before God, but the very essence of the definition of God, looks like a heavy stone, that it is possible to live much better without putting it into consciousness. There's such a position.
So Rabbi Kook says, it's because they didn't learn it properly.

Yes, Nietzsche our acquainted, after saying the sentence that shocked everyone, he said...
do You wan't shocking quotes, or is that forbidden? Ok we'll keep it between us, don't tell others, Nietzsche said "God is dead, I was at His funeral"...whoaah... So much that there went a joke once, that Zarathustra received a letter, in which it's written that "Nietzsche is dead", yes, and signed by God.

However in anyway Nietzsche meant something serious, when he said "god is dead"
he meant that this perception went and relinquished from the world.

But in his book 'The Dawn of Day', so said Nietzsche, "the world is going through changes, and the God of Israel, the ancient of days stands to return to His nation and His world,
and we shall all rejoice in His joy."

If so what meant Nietzsche?
He meant that the small perception of God has died, and there's a need to clear for it some deeper comprehension of God, which he didn't know exactly to define, but is in the hidden of our Torah.

Yes, I just want to remind what is known from some prayer books, people sometimes read the 'Opening of Elyahu', right? Before the prayer what is said in that opening Ribbon 'Almin D'ant Hu Had V'la Bhushban, the Master of the worlds, You're One - but it's not a number.

Correct?
'Leit Mahashavah Tefisah Bach Klal',
there's no thought that can comprehend God.

Conclusion - the Atheists are correct,
when they refuse to accept a defined perception of Godliness.


 
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Sounds like a very strange place. You wouldn't have run into that in the South.

Hitler wasn't a practicing Catholic.

I have no idea why they would have given up Jews so easily.. but then I can't explain why Trump has any power or why anyone would follow him. Maybe some people like insane demagogues. Jim Jones had a measure of success.
The teachings of the Catholic church affected how Hitler was. The catholic church affected everyone. I see it not being affected by the church. God set me apart to learn on my own. God blessed me with the time to do that. Trump has power. The Devil is against him because of it. The Devil is in Muslims influencing the Left. I would tell you otherwise had that not be true. Condemn yourself rejecting me. You are blind comparing me to a man that I don't even want to say. Poison is on your tongue like that which he gave to people.
 
Science and the gates of wisdom - year 1840 | The Book of Zohar

The gates of Wisdom in preparation for Geulah
Anyone who looks at the days of the world sees that in all the Middle Ages the world has advanced almost nothing. People plowed with a donkey and a plow like in the days of Noah, rode horses and a cart on dirt roads like in the days of our ancestors, heated their homes using firewood because there was no oil and did not know about the virtues of electricity. Certainly the world did not know an incandescent lamp or a fluorescent lamp. The whole industry was small and manual. Medicine was also a failure and plagues made names among the land.

The opening of the Gates of Wisdom - at it's time
And in the year 1840, HaShem won't wait for their Tshuvah and awake the redemption -

. "וּבְשִׁית מְאָה שְׁנִין לִשְׁתִיתָאָה יִתְפַּתְּחוּן תַּרְעֵי דְחָכְמְתָא לְעֵילָא וּמַבּוּעֵי דְחָכְמְתָא לְתַתָּא, וְיִתְתַּקַּן עַלְמָא לְאָעֳלָא בִּשְׁבִיעָאָה. כְּבַר נָשׁ דְּמִתְתַּקַּן בְּיוֹמָא שְׁתִיתָאָה מֵכִי עָרַב שִׁמְשָׁא לְאֲעָלָא בְּשַׁבַּתָּא. אוּף הָכִי נָמֵי. וְסִימָנִיךְ (בראשית ז) בִּשְׁנַת שֵׁשׁ מֵאוֹת שָׁנָה לְחַיֵּי נֹחַ וְגו' נִבְקְעוּ כָּל מַעְיְינוֹת תְּהוֹם רַבָּה".

The Geulah starts at the opening of the gates of the wisdom above and the streams of wisdom from below. In such manner the world is fixed towards its ascension, as one who prepares himself for Shabbat already during Friday, when the sun tilts towards the west.

The progress of science
The Zohar tells us that in these years the gates of wisdom will be opened, wonderful things will be revealed to the world that we never knew about. According to the Zohar it turns out that it is no coincidence that they are revealed in these years, that every revelation is the preparation of the world for the Messianic days. In these years the power of electricity is revealed, the invention of the lamp and the invention of the electric motor.

During these years the first oil field in Baku was opened and petrol engines were invented. From here it is a short distance to the invention of the car, steamships and trains. Railroads were paved across the globe and a network of roads began to weave across the earth.

In those days the power of the ether waves was also discovered, the telegraph and radio were invented, it was discovered that it is possible to record and photograph a human being.

The possibility of flying on a zeppelin also developed in those years until it progressed to the invention of airplanes. From here it is a short way to settle the world, to plant orchards and harvest them through sophisticated mechanization and to establish efficient industrial plants that produce clothes, cars and medicines cheaply and quickly.

In those days it was discovered how bacteria affect the health of people (Louis Pasteur, and Zemlois). The road is being paved to eradicate the plagues and diseases that have plagued hundreds of thousands of people around the world steadily. These discoveries have opened the door to the discovery of hundreds and thousands of life-saving drugs. Since then, the average life expectancy of human beings in the world has doubled from 45 to 75 years on average. The world population has increased sevenfold (from one billion to 7.5 billion). In this way it will be possible to sustain in the future "and the earth is full of knowledge of God as water to the sea covering." Not when the world is barren and animals roam it.

This multiplication is leading to the spread of humanity all over the planet,
and along the way also eradicates the ignorant idols from the more distant places in the world.

'As in adorning herself for her husband' - Israel raises from dust
In those years, the people of Israel begin to emerge from the humiliating bondage that had existed for thousands of years and received equal rights. The people of Israel are also beginning to return to their land. When 'Knesset Israel' is established, God commands all the wicked to take revenge on them, and 'Knesset Israel', which have been low and dusty to that day, will be raised by God above and beyond.

The Jewish residents of Jerusalem gain courage and go outside the walls for the first time and establish new neighborhoods. New cities are built by Jews in the Land of Israel, including Rosh Pina, Petah Tikva
and Rishon LeZion. Jews immigrate to the Holy Land and it begins giving fruits in splendor and revive.

This is what the Zohar says about the Knesset Israel -

"וּכְדֵין יִתְחֲזֵי קַשְׁתָּא בַּעֲנָנָא בִּגְוָונֵי נְהִירִין כְּאִתְּתָא דְמִתְקַשְּׁטָא לְבַעֲלָהּ דִּכְתִיב, (בראשית ט) וּרְאִיתִיהָ לִזְכֹּר בְּרִית עוֹלָם","וּכְנֶסֶת יִשְׂרָאֵל יוֹקִים לָהּ מֵעַפְרָא וְיִדְכַּר לָהּ קוּדְשָׁא בְּרִיךְ הוּא. וְיִשְׁתַּכַּח קוּדְשָׁא בְּרִיךְ הוּא לְגַבָּהּ גּוֹ גָּלוּתָא כְּחוּשְׁבַּן וא"ו שִׁית זִמְנִין י'. עֶשֶׂר זִמְנִין שִׁית שְׁנִין, וּכְדֵין תֵּיקוּם וְיִתְפַּקַד עַלְמָא לְמֶעְבַּד נוּקְמִין, וּמַאן דְּאִיהוּ מָאִיךְ יִתְרְמֵי"

- The book of Zohar on Beresheet
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Where Is Technology Taking Us?

From the series: Sparks of Things to Come


Long before anyone ever dreamed of a steam engine or a light bulb, the Zohar predicted an era when the world would be flooded with wisdom from below and wisdom from above.
It all begins with Noah and the Flood: “In the six hundredth year of the life of Noah…all wellsprings of the great deep burst open, and the windows of heaven were opened…”
Here’s how the Zohar interprets that: “In the six hundredth year of the sixth millennia the gates of wisdom above and the wellsprings of wisdom below will open, and the world will prepare to enter into the seventh millennia, just as a person prepares on the eve of Shabbat to enter Shabbat.”
When was the six hundredth year of the sixth millennia? That’s the year 5,600 on the Hebrew calendar. On the secular calendar, that’s the year 1840.
Now, that doesn’t sound like such a spectacular date. But it sits smack in the middle of the greatest shift in human history.

Here’s a chart that plots discovery and invention over world population. Guess which decade spikes to the top? The decade of 1840. Yes, the rain had begun to fall at least a century earlier. But by that date, the floodgates were opened wide and gushing.

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The wellsprings of wisdom from below to which the Zohar refers turn out to be the technology, science and distance communications that burst open in a torrent unprecedented in all of history. Something we call the Industrial Revolution. And that created an entirely new world.

Am I exaggerating?
Here’s a chart that shows how much wealth people had starting from the year one of the Common Era and up until our time. You’ll notice that there’s not much happening for most of this chart. That’s because, for most of time, most people had barely what they needed to survive, if that—the equivalent of you or I earning $200 a year.

And then, wealth, health and the quality of life explodes—at just the time that the Zohar predicts.

From Max Rosen, OurWorldInData.org

From Max Rosen, OurWorldInData.org​
So what does technology, science and distance communications have to do with “preparing the world to enter into the seventh millennia”?

The seventh millennia is an era when the universe discovers its own oneness, a oneness that expresses exquisitely the oneness of its Creator. So we’re not talking so much about some revelation that pours down from above. We’re talking about the world opening up to its own truths.

 

Secularism and Knowing God by Rabbi Uri Sherki


This article discusses the questions: How did the secular age come about and is it part of God’s divine providence? What are the meaning and positive purpose of atheism and how can it contribute to religious life?

This recording is a reading of an unofficial translation of Rabbi Uri Sherki’s article entitled “Secularism and Knowing God” originally published in Hebrew in his book entitled “Sanctity and Nature".

 
Before Edomite Vatican invented the letter 'J', about 500 years ago, there was no Jesus and no Jews.

About 125 BC, after King Cyrus helped the Tribe of Yehuda go back to Palestine, the King of Yehuda, John Hyrcanus, invaded Edom and conquered it, and incorporated many Edomites and their gods into His Kingdom.
List of His successors in relative rapid succession:

Hasmonean High Priests and Kings, 153 - 37 B.C.​

Jonathan 153 - 142 B.C.
Simon 142 - 134 B.C.
John Hyrcanus I 134 - 104 B.C.
Aristobulus I (also King) 104 - 103 B.C.
Alexander Jannaeus (also King) 103 - 76 B.C.
Alexandra Salome (Queen) 76 - 67 B.C.
John Hyrcanus II (High Priest only) 76 - 66 B.C.
Aristobulus II 66 - 63 B.C.
John Hyrcanus II (High Priest only) 63 - 40 B.C.
Antigonus 40 - 37 B.C.

Herodian Dynasty, 60 B.C.- 100 A.D.​

Antipater the Idumaean (Edomite) (Governor of Judaea) 60 - 43 B.C.
Herod (Governor of Galilee) 43 - 40 B.C.
Phasael (Governor of Judaea) 43 - 40 B.C.
Herod the Great, King of Yehudea, elected by Roman Senate, 37-4 B.C.
Herod Archelaus (Ethnarch of Judaea) 4 B.C. – 6 BC
Herod Antipas (Tetrarch of Galilee) 4 B.C.-39 BC
Herod Philip (Tetrarch of Batanaea) 4 B.C - 34 BC
Herod I, Agrippa King of Yehudea, nominated by Claudius
Tetrarch of Batanaea 37- 41 A.D.
Tetrarch of Galilee 40- 41 A.D.

By the time that YahvehShua came as the Perfect Man, the Edomites had taken over the kingship, temple, priesthood, lawyers, scribes etc.

And since that time,. Edomites have considered themselves the heirs of Yehuda and Israel until Edomite Central in the Vatican invented the letter 'J'. After that, they began calling themselves "Jews". And, their hatred of YahvehShua Messiah, modified the word Iesus, into Jesus, pronounced Geesus, meaning unfaithful seducing pig, which is how they viewed Him from the time of His Birth.

So successful has this trick been, that almost all Christians are thus slandering He who would be their Savior. In some ways, it is laughable how deluded Christians have been.
 
Before Edomite Vatican invented the letter 'J', about 500 years ago, there was no Jesus and no Jews.

About 125 BC, after King Cyrus helped the Tribe of Yehuda go back to Palestine, the King of Yehuda, John Hyrcanus, invaded Edom and conquered it, and incorporated many Edomites and their gods into His Kingdom.
List of His successors in relative rapid succession:

Hasmonean High Priests and Kings, 153 - 37 B.C.​

Jonathan 153 - 142 B.C.
Simon 142 - 134 B.C.
John Hyrcanus I 134 - 104 B.C.
Aristobulus I (also King) 104 - 103 B.C.
Alexander Jannaeus (also King) 103 - 76 B.C.
Alexandra Salome (Queen) 76 - 67 B.C.
John Hyrcanus II (High Priest only) 76 - 66 B.C.
Aristobulus II 66 - 63 B.C.
John Hyrcanus II (High Priest only) 63 - 40 B.C.
Antigonus 40 - 37 B.C.

Herodian Dynasty, 60 B.C.- 100 A.D.​

Antipater the Idumaean (Edomite) (Governor of Judaea) 60 - 43 B.C.
Herod (Governor of Galilee) 43 - 40 B.C.
Phasael (Governor of Judaea) 43 - 40 B.C.
Herod the Great, King of Yehudea, elected by Roman Senate, 37-4 B.C.
Herod Archelaus (Ethnarch of Judaea) 4 B.C. – 6 BC
Herod Antipas (Tetrarch of Galilee) 4 B.C.-39 BC
Herod Philip (Tetrarch of Batanaea) 4 B.C - 34 BC
Herod I, Agrippa King of Yehudea, nominated by Claudius
Tetrarch of Batanaea 37- 41 A.D.
Tetrarch of Galilee 40- 41 A.D.

By the time that YahvehShua came as the Perfect Man, the Edomites had taken over the kingship, temple, priesthood, lawyers, scribes etc.

And since that time,. Edomites have considered themselves the heirs of Yehuda and Israel until Edomite Central in the Vatican invented the letter 'J'. After that, they began calling themselves "Jews". And, their hatred of YahvehShua Messiah, modified the word Iesus, into Jesus, pronounced Geesus, meaning unfaithful seducing pig, which is how they viewed Him from the time of His Birth.

So successful has this trick been, that almost all Christians are thus slandering He who would be their Savior. In some ways, it is laughable how deluded Christians have been.
No J But Y transliterated as the H sound which is why the book of Joshua (Yashua) was called Hoshea.
 
I am of no sect. God called me directly. All of the churches have been wrong for a long time. I am working on changing that. The mouth and tongue must not be perverted. People called pedophilia people are not perverts. They are people who do what life does. Pedophilia people are not wanting populate the world, taking over. Catholic church, and Baal, are the same. What one did, so will the other. The church hides evil behind the word sex. It is a false facade. Muslims want to take over the world, and the people on it, not being the name. Pedophilia people don't have that mentality. Our mentality needs to be that of Christ, being good to people, considering the life of living things. Muslims love the name Muslim, and the being they bow down to who is distant, not caring about anyone, not able to call that beings self Father God. Can't Muslims be smart realizing that they are obeying a being who is faking it? Where am I wrong? Man did not write the Bible. Carnal minds could not have instructions on how to be righteous. Counsel and wisdom would not be found therein. People would have praised the murderous enemies of Jesus. Jesus said woe into them in many ways. The Bible would not read in the way it reads, that is contrary to the way a sinful mind thinks. The carnal mind will not think of what is written, saying this is the peacful way. Walk ye in it. The carnal mind thinks that vex means sex, not realizing that they are vexing people with what they say. How can a natural man write a book, that corrects errors, that people don't even think of? Muslims read the Quran. They that don't memorize it, are killed. They are seen as being infidels. Don't ask a Muslim a question. Truth will not be spoken to you. They practice taqiyya. They think they are smart when they do that. Jesus did not do that, and never will do that.

What a crock. You don't know anything about Islam or Muslims.
 
The teachings of the Catholic church affected how Hitler was.
Hitler was insane
The catholic church affected everyone.
In a good way or a bad way?

God blessed me with the time to do that. Trump has power.
Trump is a deranged man, insane to say the least.
The Devil is against him because of it.
Trump admires the devil
The Devil is in Muslims influencing the Left. I would tell you otherwise had that not be true.
Muslims are not the problem, the real problem is people who falsely accuse Muslims of being bad while they themselves are the devils in disguise.
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