A Tale of Two Eras

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1. America was a different nation in the early era, one that saw itself as that shining city on a hill. And none is better suited to represent that period than George Washington.

Today, August 28th, 1776, times looked bleak for the incipient nation....
a. After the defeat of the Battle of Long Island (see 8/21), William Howe sent his army to move against the Continentals on Brooklyn Heights. Admiral Richard Howe prepared to send ships in the East River, surrounding Washington’s army. The end was near.

b. Just then the weather changed: wind began to rise and rain to fall. On August 29, Washington ordered a secret evacuation; the nor’easter masked Washington’s movements. A dense fog settled over the camps: Americans at that time recognized the source... “a providential occurrence.’

c. ".... "After dawn of the next day approached, those of us who remained in the trenches became very anxious for our own safety and when the dawn appeared there were several regiments here on duty. At this time, a very dense fog began to rise out of the ground and off the river. It seemed to settle in a peculiar manner over both encampments. I recollect this peculiar Providential occurrence perfectly well. And so very dense was the atmosphere that I could scarcely discern a man six yards distance. We tarried until the sun had risen but the fog remained as dense as ever."
The fog remained until the last boats left Long Island." George Washington Prays, God Sends Supernatural Fog to Allow Escape






[The following might imply that Roosevelt was the anti-George Washington.
Pretty much.]


So...if George Washington represents America at an earlier time....who are the post-Roosevelt era candidates representing America?

Some suggestions:

2. “Liberals spent the Vietnam War rooting for the enemy and clamoring for America's defeat, a tradition they have brought back for the Iraq war….During the Vietnam War, New York Times scion Arthur "Pinch" Sulzberger told his father that if an American soldier ran into a North Vietnamese soldier, he would prefer for the American to get shot. "It's the other guy's country," he explained.”
The Democratic Party: A Vast Sleeper Cell | Human Events


3.In may, of 2010, Michael H. Posner
Assistant Secretary, Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor, during official talks with China about human rights violations, compared the recently passed Arizona Law with “topics, including religious freedom, labor rights, freedom of expression, rule of law, racial discrimination,… the Falun, the religious situation in China. Also, concerning the Tibetans, monks also, asking for freedom – actually, it’s religious freedom….specifically about Gao Zhisheng’s whereabouts…any kind of a list of prisoners of conscience” in China.
QUESTION: Did the recently passed Arizona immigration law come up? And, if so, did they bring it up or did you bring it up?
ASSISTANT SECRETARY POSNER: We brought it up early and often. It was mentioned in the first session, and as a troubling trend in our society and an indication that we have to deal with issues of discrimination or potential discrimination, and that these are issues very much being debated in our own society. Briefing on the U.S.-China Human Rights Dialogue


4. [Democrat] Senator Pat Leahy was annoyed with the Reagan administration's war on terrorism in the 1980s. At the time he was vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. Therefore, "Leaky Leahy," threatened to sabotage classified strategies he didn't like. [In 1988] as the Senate was preparing to hold hearings on the Iran-Contra scandal, Leahy had to resign his Intelligence Committee post after he was caught leaking secret information to a reporter. The Vermont Democrat's Iran-Contra leak was considered to be one of the most serious breaches of secrecy in the committee's 28-year history.
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/17720






5. In 1983, [Democrat] Sen. Edward M. Kennedy offered to help the Soviets mount a public-relations offensive in the United States. This propaganda attack would target President Reagan and his policies. These are the same policies that eventually ended the Cold War and reduced the possibility of nuclear annihilation. This charge was made by Paul Kengor in his book "The Crusader: Ronald Reagan and the Fall of Communism." Ted Kennedy sides with Soviets. Traitor [Archive] - Georgia Outdoor News Forum


6. [Democrat] Senator Robert Torricelli of New Jersey, who led the charge in the mid-1990s to prevent the CIA from hiring unsavory characters. Torricelli rallied to the defense of State Department employee Robert Nuccio, who leaked classified material dealing with CIA operations in Guatemala to Torricelli, who in turn held a press conference and revealed the information to the media. It was these revelations that led to congressional restrictions on the ability of agents in the field to deal with “bad people.”
History News Network


7. Oliver Stone: “These remarks should surprise no one who's followed Stone's long-standing hatred of Israel and, more blatantly, America. In 1987, he told an interviewer that U.S. soldiers deserved mass slaughter to compensate for the nation's past sins.” Oliver Stone's "Secret History" - Medved Blog - MyNorthwest.com





May I add, "Dishonorable Mention:," KKK official and FDR appointee, Justice Hugo Black, who delivered the Supreme Court opinion taking prayer out of public schools.




The only two chapters in this story.....
 
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All liberals were not for the Vietnamese, just against America being there. Get your facts straight.




Clarification....

Does your post mean that you agree to the veracity of the rest of the OP...or that your ADD kicked in and that's as far as you got?
 
All liberals were not for the Vietnamese, just against America being there. Get your facts straight.




Clarification....

Does your post mean that you agree to the veracity of the rest of the OP...or that your ADD kicked in and that's as far as you got?

When you read such such untruths, why read further?

How old were you during the Vietnam War?
 
All liberals were not for the Vietnamese, just against America being there. Get your facts straight.




Clarification....

Does your post mean that you agree to the veracity of the rest of the OP...or that your ADD kicked in and that's as far as you got?

When you read such such untruths, why read further?

How old were you during the Vietnam War?





1. So....you still have that autogrphed photo of Jane Fonda sitting behind the Viet Cong antiaircraft gun, fantasizing killing American pilots?


Hey....remember when President Reagan said: "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down that Jane Fonda photo!"



2. "How old were you during the Vietnam War?"

Why is it that knuckleheads like you don't believe that folks can have expertise even of eras before their time???

I'm really good at both research, and study.

But, you know that.




BTW....that was a pretty flimsy excuse for the rest of the OP: we both know you read it....but have no defense for those traitors.
 
So, tell us more about George Washington and the magic god fog.
 
Early America was a hellhole

But we have learned and evolved into the greatest nation on earth
 
Early America was a hellhole

But we have learned and evolved into the greatest nation on earth



...the slippage began when the Emperor Franklin the First abridged the Constitution....

The problems have shown up as cracks in the economy, and the tsunami of the Mortgage Meltdown.

Debt is the handwriting on the wall.

Can you imagine, the Emperor never considered that there'd be more folks.....or that they would live longer.
 
Early America was a hellhole

But we have learned and evolved into the greatest nation on earth



...the slippage began when the Emperor Franklin the First abridged the Constitution....

The problems have shown up as cracks in the economy, and the tsunami of the Mortgage Meltdown.

Debt is the handwriting on the wall.

Can you imagine, the Emperor never considered that there'd be more folks.....or that they would live longer.

I will take 21st century America over 18th century America any day

We are stronger as a society, as a culture and as a country
 
Early America was a hellhole

But we have learned and evolved into the greatest nation on earth



...the slippage began when the Emperor Franklin the First abridged the Constitution....

The problems have shown up as cracks in the economy, and the tsunami of the Mortgage Meltdown.

Debt is the handwriting on the wall.

Can you imagine, the Emperor never considered that there'd be more folks.....or that they would live longer.

I will take 21st century America over 18th century America any day

We are stronger as a society, as a culture and as a country




And having lived in both....you'd be the one to ask!



Rumor is, you're so old that your blood type has been discontinued.
 
Early America was a hellhole

But we have learned and evolved into the greatest nation on earth



...the slippage began when the Emperor Franklin the First abridged the Constitution....

The problems have shown up as cracks in the economy, and the tsunami of the Mortgage Meltdown.

Debt is the handwriting on the wall.

Can you imagine, the Emperor never considered that there'd be more folks.....or that they would live longer.

I will take 21st century America over 18th century America any day

We are stronger as a society, as a culture and as a country



Certainly not as a culture.

Did you enjoy Miley's performance?
 
Early America was a hellhole

But we have learned and evolved into the greatest nation on earth



...the slippage began when the Emperor Franklin the First abridged the Constitution....

The problems have shown up as cracks in the economy, and the tsunami of the Mortgage Meltdown.

Debt is the handwriting on the wall.

Can you imagine, the Emperor never considered that there'd be more folks.....or that they would live longer.

I will take 21st century America over 18th century America any day

We are stronger as a society, as a culture and as a country

I must agree. When I went to DC and Virginia last spring it became very clear how much of a hell ho le the colonies were. There were food shortages in the 1600s. Habeas Corpus had not found the colonies. There would be no Constitution for another 100 or so years. Many people indentured themselves to come here as slaves, only to realize the harsh realities of the day. I would not have wanted to be here in that day.

I do see the point, however, that the thinking of our leaders seems to have done a 180. We have become well fed and complacent.
 
...the slippage began when the Emperor Franklin the First abridged the Constitution....

The problems have shown up as cracks in the economy, and the tsunami of the Mortgage Meltdown.

Debt is the handwriting on the wall.

Can you imagine, the Emperor never considered that there'd be more folks.....or that they would live longer.

I will take 21st century America over 18th century America any day

We are stronger as a society, as a culture and as a country



Certainly not as a culture.

Did you enjoy Miley's performance?

Her dry humping has been around for a while

But that woman needs to learn to keep her tongue in her mouth
 
So, what does Reagan sychophant PoliticalChic think of this disclosure?


http://www.usmessageboard.com/curre...-america-helped-saddam-as-he-gassed-iran.html


:)

Once again, you knew exactly to whom to turn for correct answers.
Truly, the single indication of wisdom you have ever shown.


1. "A State Department account indicates that the administration had decided to limit its "efforts against the Iraqi CW program to close monitoring because of our strict neutrality in the Gulf war, the sensitivity of sources, and the low probability of achieving desired results." But the department noted in late November 1983 that "with the essential assistance of foreign firms, Iraq ha[d] become able to deploy and use CW and probably has built up large reserves of CW for further use. Given its desperation to end the war, Iraq may again use lethal or incapacitating CW, particularly if Iran threatens to break through Iraqi lines in a large-scale attack" [Document 25]. The State Department argued that the U.S. needed to respond in some way to maintain the credibility of its official opposition to chemical warfare, and recommended that the National Security Council discuss the issue.

2. On March 3, the State Department intervened to prevent a U.S. company from shipping 22,000 pounds of phosphorous fluoride, a chemical weapons precursor, to Iraq. Washington instructed the U.S. interests section to protest to the Iraqi government, and to inform the Ministry of Foreign Affairs that "we anticipate making a public condemnation of Iraqi use of chemical weapons in the near future," and that "we are adamantly opposed to Iraq's attempting to acquire the raw materials, equipment, or expertise to manufacture chemical weapons from the United States. When we become aware of attempts to do so, we will act to prevent their export to Iraq" [Document 42].

3. The U.S. is to emphasize points made in a recent State Department press conference, including the assertion that "The USG evenhandedly condemns the prohibited use of chemical weapons whenever it occurs."
Source: Declassified under the Freedom of Information Act


4. The U.S. is to emphasize points made in a recent State Department press conference, including the assertion that "The USG evenhandedly condemns the prohibited use of chemical weapons whenever it occurs."
Source: Declassified under the Freedom of Information Act
Shaking Hands with Saddam Hussein




On this subject, Dr. J. Glazov writes in his book that Islamofascism is a blood cult, and requires blood for martyrdom. The use of poison gas ended the Iran-Iraq war, as it would not have resulted in the shedding of actual blood:

Outlined by Dr. Hans-Peter Raddatz, Orientalist, and frequent critic of Islam, this blood-lust was the explanation of Iran’s demand for a truce, when it was learned that Iraq planned to kill the waves of Iranians with Tabun and Sarin nerve gas, which would not cause blood to flow.
Glazov, “United in Hate,” p. 107-108.
 
So, what does Reagan sychophant PoliticalChic think of this disclosure?


http://www.usmessageboard.com/curre...-america-helped-saddam-as-he-gassed-iran.html


:)

Once again, you knew exactly to whom to turn for correct answers.
Truly, the single indication of wisdom you have ever shown.


1. "A State Department account indicates that the administration had decided to limit its "efforts against the Iraqi CW program to close monitoring because of our strict neutrality in the Gulf war, the sensitivity of sources, and the low probability of achieving desired results." But the department noted in late November 1983 that "with the essential assistance of foreign firms, Iraq ha[d] become able to deploy and use CW and probably has built up large reserves of CW for further use. Given its desperation to end the war, Iraq may again use lethal or incapacitating CW, particularly if Iran threatens to break through Iraqi lines in a large-scale attack" [Document 25]. The State Department argued that the U.S. needed to respond in some way to maintain the credibility of its official opposition to chemical warfare, and recommended that the National Security Council discuss the issue.

2. On March 3, the State Department intervened to prevent a U.S. company from shipping 22,000 pounds of phosphorous fluoride, a chemical weapons precursor, to Iraq. Washington instructed the U.S. interests section to protest to the Iraqi government, and to inform the Ministry of Foreign Affairs that "we anticipate making a public condemnation of Iraqi use of chemical weapons in the near future," and that "we are adamantly opposed to Iraq's attempting to acquire the raw materials, equipment, or expertise to manufacture chemical weapons from the United States. When we become aware of attempts to do so, we will act to prevent their export to Iraq" [Document 42].

3. The U.S. is to emphasize points made in a recent State Department press conference, including the assertion that "The USG evenhandedly condemns the prohibited use of chemical weapons whenever it occurs."
Source: Declassified under the Freedom of Information Act


4. The U.S. is to emphasize points made in a recent State Department press conference, including the assertion that "The USG evenhandedly condemns the prohibited use of chemical weapons whenever it occurs."
Source: Declassified under the Freedom of Information Act
Shaking Hands with Saddam Hussein




On this subject, Dr. J. Glazov writes in his book that Islamofascism is a blood cult, and requires blood for martyrdom. The use of poison gas ended the Iran-Iraq war, as it would not have resulted in the shedding of actual blood:

Outlined by Dr. Hans-Peter Raddatz, Orientalist, and frequent critic of Islam, this blood-lust was the explanation of Iran’s demand for a truce, when it was learned that Iraq planned to kill the waves of Iranians with Tabun and Sarin nerve gas, which would not cause blood to flow.
Glazov, “United in Hate,” p. 107-108.
Maybe you didn't understand the question. :lol:
 
1. America was a different nation in the early era, one that saw itself as that shining city on a hill. And none is better suited to represent that period than George Washington.

<SNIP> Go back and read the rest of the OP if you are interested...

There was much to admire that August and coming fall and leading up to Trenton, yes.

Sexism, slavery, racism, ethnocentrism, imprisonment for debt, cruel and unusual punishment, etc., not so much.
 

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