A summary of the Healthcare Meeting

[Political Junky]

The GOP:

• showed up but leave their principles and the interests of the American people in their cars.
• Point out to the Democrats that this could have all been done if they had been included at the beginning.
• Compromise with everything.
• America loses.

The Democrats:

• Mr. Obama speaks smoothly, looks suave and manages to humm and ahh his way through without actually getting to any point. GOP skewers him and makes him look foolish.
• Pelosi frightens small children and racoons when the television turns on her while she speaks
• Democrats whine about not getting any Republican votes even though they didn't need them
• They agree to go with Mr. Obama's proposal, as was planned before they even sat down.

USMB:

• The left will fawn and clean themselves up and claim that Mr. Obama made the GOP look like idiots. No proof will be offered.
• The middle: Will whine.
• The Right: Will continue to complain that the GOP are spineless lemur monkeys, unable to make a rational, solid argument in favor of the American People.

Me:

• I will be sitting back and laughing at it all.

Enjoy the theatrics.

Interesting, you made a summary hours before it was over.
Huge surprise, Cons didn't like it, I'm watching their press conference now.

 

[Avatar4321]

I bet there's a chunk of liberals googling the definition of inimical.

Wouldnt surprise me. I couldnt have told you the definition last week. But i decided to expand my vocabulary and that's the word of the day.

 

[Darkwind]

The GOP:

• showed up but leave their principles and the interests of the American people in their cars.
• Point out to the Democrats that this could have all been done if they had been included at the beginning.
• Compromise with everything.
• America loses.

The Democrats:

• Mr. Obama speaks smoothly, looks suave and manages to humm and ahh his way through without actually getting to any point. GOP skewers him and makes him look foolish.
• Pelosi frightens small children and racoons when the television turns on her while she speaks
• Democrats whine about not getting any Republican votes even though they didn't need them
• They agree to go with Mr. Obama's proposal, as was planned before they even sat down.

USMB:

• The left will fawn and clean themselves up and claim that Mr. Obama made the GOP look like idiots. No proof will be offered.
• The middle: Will whine.
• The Right: Will continue to complain that the GOP are spineless lemur monkeys, unable to make a rational, solid argument in favor of the American People.

Me:

• I will be sitting back and laughing at it all.

Enjoy the theatrics.

Interesting, you made a summary hours before it was over.
Huge surprise, Cons didn't like it, I'm watching their press conference now.

Interesting that My summary turned out be fairly accurate.

Look up the word predictable.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

Obama already called out Cantor for bringing props. Cantor is all ready for some campaigning today with the cameras rolling.

I don't care if they end up in shouting matches, just don't be so dishonest saying you're coming to participate when you really just want yet another obstructionist, teabag Obama down every chance you get type moment.

He's doing well, congress is not.

Yeah...that's what I thought of that Democrat authored healthcare bill too...it was a prop designed and developed to SCREW THE AMERICAN PEOPLE....thanks for agreeing with 80% of America.

 

[Si modo]

Obama already called out Cantor for bringing props. Cantor is all ready for some campaigning today with the cameras rolling.

I don't care if they end up in shouting matches, just don't be so dishonest saying you're coming to participate when you really just want yet another obstructionist, teabag Obama down every chance you get type moment.

He's doing well, congress is not.

Do you know what the "prop" was that Cantor brought? Surprise, it was specific parts of the very bill being debated. What Obama calls a "prop" is what they are all supposed to be there talking about.

Rick

Nope, Obama was calling him out on a very large stack of paper. He was there to obstruct and trot out his talking points. Granted they are there for 6 hours or so but Obama wasn't even going to talk to Cantor that long.

Who would even want to hear Cantor drone on for any length of time anyway. He is always bringing up the dumbest shit.

Ummmm, the health care bill IS a large stack of paper.

Idiot.

 

[Sarah G]

That "very large stack of paper" is the friggin' bill, and those "talking points" are nothing more than reading crap that's actually in that bill.

Ok, the Rs were so in sync with talking points it was embarrassing, Obama was in command. The Dems hardly said anything, he took total control of that meeting and continued to engage the Republicans but they refused to do anything but repeat the same old shit.

I thought it was successful and in spite of Reid saying they haven't been talking about reconcilliation, they are going to get it done with or without conservative input and imo, reconcilliation is the only option at this point.

 

[Si modo]

That "very large stack of paper" is the friggin' bill, and those "talking points" are nothing more than reading crap that's actually in that bill.

Ok, the Rs were so in sync with talking points it was embarrassing, Obama was in command. The Dems hardly said anything, he took total control of that meeting and continued to engage the Republicans but they refused to do anything but repeat the same old shit.

I thought it was successful and in spite of Reid saying they haven't been talking about reconcilliation, they are going to get it done with or without conservative input and imo, reconcilliation is the only option at this point.

Fairy tales are so comforting. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cHsPCAZlP4]YouTube - Pinocchio- When you wish upon a star[/ame]

But then we grow up and learn to think.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

That "very large stack of paper" is the friggin' bill, and those "talking points" are nothing more than reading crap that's actually in that bill.

Ok, the Rs were so in sync with talking points it was embarrassing, Obama was in command. The Dems hardly said anything, he took total control of that meeting and continued to engage the Republicans but they refused to do anything but repeat the same old shit.

I thought it was successful and in spite of Reid saying they haven't been talking about reconcilliation, they are going to get it done with or without conservative input and imo, reconcilliation is the only option at this point.

Obama was in command. The Dems hardly said anything,

I agree...the President had 119 minutes, the Democrats had 243 minutes and DIDN'T SAY A GOD DAMN THING....once again we find common ground Sarah!!!!

 

[hboats]

That "very large stack of paper" is the friggin' bill, and those "talking points" are nothing more than reading crap that's actually in that bill.

Ok, the Rs were so in sync with talking points it was embarrassing, Obama was in command. The Dems hardly said anything, he took total control of that meeting and continued to engage the Republicans but they refused to do anything but repeat the same old shit.

I thought it was successful and in spite of Reid saying they haven't been talking about reconcilliation, they are going to get it done with or without conservative input and imo, reconcilliation is the only option at this point.

I don't know what you were watching, but even all of the major news networks say the exact opposite of what you're saying. They all say that Obama and the Democrats looked silly and came out far behind where they were when they went in to this "summit."

And reconciliation isn't really even an option at this point, the Democrats don't even have the votes right now to pass this piece of crap bill that way.

Rick

 

[Si modo]

So, on the way there, Obama said that he was looking forward to listening, yet he talks more than those to whom he wants to listen. How does that work?

Newspeak.

Or, the Dems are trying their best to gaslight the rest of us.

 

[Sarah G]

That "very large stack of paper" is the friggin' bill, and those "talking points" are nothing more than reading crap that's actually in that bill.

Ok, the Rs were so in sync with talking points it was embarrassing, Obama was in command. The Dems hardly said anything, he took total control of that meeting and continued to engage the Republicans but they refused to do anything but repeat the same old shit.

I thought it was successful and in spite of Reid saying they haven't been talking about reconcilliation, they are going to get it done with or without conservative input and imo, reconcilliation is the only option at this point.

Obama was in command. The Dems hardly said anything,

I agree...the President had 119 minutes, the Democrats had 243 minutes and DIDN'T SAY A GOD DAMN THING....once again we find common ground Sarah!!!!

The Democrats didn't say much at all. Better than opening mouth and inserting foot like the Rs did tho..

 

[Misty]

That "very large stack of paper" is the friggin' bill, and those "talking points" are nothing more than reading crap that's actually in that bill.

Ok, the Rs were so in sync with talking points it was embarrassing, Obama was in command. The Dems hardly said anything, he took total control of that meeting and continued to engage the Republicans but they refused to do anything but repeat the same old shit.

I thought it was successful and in spite of Reid saying they haven't been talking about reconcilliation, they are going to get it done with or without conservative input and imo, reconcilliation is the only option at this point.

all Obama does is repeat rhetoric.

Here's some rhetoric for you.

The healthcare bill is dead

Pay for your own shit!!!

There is no cure for cancer

Everyone dies.

 

[Foxfyre]

That "very large stack of paper" is the friggin' bill, and those "talking points" are nothing more than reading crap that's actually in that bill.

Ok, the Rs were so in sync with talking points it was embarrassing, Obama was in command. The Dems hardly said anything, he took total control of that meeting and continued to engage the Republicans but they refused to do anything but repeat the same old shit.

I thought it was successful and in spite of Reid saying they haven't been talking about reconcilliation, they are going to get it done with or without conservative input and imo, reconcilliation is the only option at this point.

I don't know what you were watching, but even all of the major news networks say the exact opposite of what you're saying. They all say that Obama and the Democrats looked silly and came out far behind where they were when they went in to this "summit."

And reconciliation isn't really even an option at this point, the Democrats don't even have the votes right now to pass this piece of crap bill that way.

Rick

I have to agree with HB here. On the other thread I posted this exerpt from Erick Erickson's (Redstate) summary of the meeting:

Excerpt:

There are many reasons the Republican Party is often referred to as the Stupid Party. Many Republicans thought that after the President overshadowed the GOP at their Baltimore retreat last month, going to Blair House yesterday would just be another PR disaster.

It was anything but.

The GOP won the day so convincingly that even the traditional media had to praise the party for talking issues.

Contrast that with Barack Obama who scowled, berated, lied, and harassed the attendees — not to mention filibustered them.

In the most ironic moment of the day, Barack Obama lectured Virginia Congressman Eric Cantor on having the Democrats’ 2,700+ page health care bill on his desk at the meeting. Obama called it a “prop.” At the same time, Democrats were in the newspapers admitting that, in effect, Barack Obama was using the GOP as a prop in a vain effort to show bipartisanship on health care.

There is bipartisanship on health care. There is bipartisan opposition to it. The Democrats must realize today that they would get nothing out of the meeting. They will now try to force health care deform through Congress on a majority vote in each house.

Only a couple of years ago, Barack Obama praised the filibuster claiming it was what the founding fathers wanted to prevent the tyranny of the majority. Now he is intent on ignoring the filibuster and ramming through health care deform.

If nothing else, today shows the American public that the Republicans have a better agenda, better ideas, and are willing to stand up and oppose a reckless scheme that will increase health care costs. . . .

 

[Foxfyre]

The Democrats didn't say much at all. Better than opening mouth and inserting foot like the Rs did tho..

After every GOP speaker, Obama stressed again that there were still many to speak and they should respect the time allotted. Then he proceeded to disrespect it himself with long winded dissertations of his own.

At one point, a GOP member was making his point and Obama wasn't listening at all. He was rudely having a side conversation with another Democrat.

When one Republican, who had been keeping track of time, pointed out the disparity of the Democrats being allowed significantly more time to speak than the Republicans, Obama's response was to point out that he was, after all, the President.

It should be noted that this meeting was called to afford the GOP an opportunity to present their ideas, concerns, hopes, and ambitions for reforming healthcare. They came to do exactly that, and were criticized for doing it at almost every turn.

This was nothing more than an Obama gimmick to showcase the Republicans as the party of 'no'. After seeing that even the Obama-friendly mainstream media didn't see it that way, I think it backfired on him.

 

[Sarah G]

That "very large stack of paper" is the friggin' bill, and those "talking points" are nothing more than reading crap that's actually in that bill.

Ok, the Rs were so in sync with talking points it was embarrassing, Obama was in command. The Dems hardly said anything, he took total control of that meeting and continued to engage the Republicans but they refused to do anything but repeat the same old shit.

I thought it was successful and in spite of Reid saying they haven't been talking about reconcilliation, they are going to get it done with or without conservative input and imo, reconcilliation is the only option at this point.

I don't know what you were watching, but even all of the major news networks say the exact opposite of what you're saying. They all say that Obama and the Democrats looked silly and came out far behind where they were when they went in to this "summit."

And reconciliation isn't really even an option at this point, the Democrats don't even have the votes right now to pass this piece of crap bill that way.

Rick

Reconciliation is certainly an option and the probable way they will begin piecing this bill together. You don't know what you are talking about.

Your entire first paragraph was such a talking point.. Too funny.

 

[hboats]

Ok, the Rs were so in sync with talking points it was embarrassing, Obama was in command. The Dems hardly said anything, he took total control of that meeting and continued to engage the Republicans but they refused to do anything but repeat the same old shit.

I thought it was successful and in spite of Reid saying they haven't been talking about reconcilliation, they are going to get it done with or without conservative input and imo, reconcilliation is the only option at this point.

I don't know what you were watching, but even all of the major news networks say the exact opposite of what you're saying. They all say that Obama and the Democrats looked silly and came out far behind where they were when they went in to this "summit."

And reconciliation isn't really even an option at this point, the Democrats don't even have the votes right now to pass this piece of crap bill that way.

Rick

Reconciliation is certainly an option and the probable way they will begin piecing this bill together. You don't know what you are talking about.

Your entire first paragraph was such a talking point.. Too funny.

Please, explain to me your understanding of reconciliation. Because using reconciliation has nothing to do with "piecing this bill together." It is their attempt to try to override the rules that are in place and try to push this bill through with a majority vote. And from everything I've seen reported the Democrats don't have the votes to even get this through using reconciliation at the moment. You're really telling me that I don't know what I'm talking about when you can't even support your own views?

And no, my first paragraph was not a "talking point." It was stating what I'm seeing with every new report of this summit that I've seen. Most are either saying that Obama and the Democrats lost ground or they are ignoring it all together. But, being the liberal that you seem to be, I can see how a well thought out response is seen as "talking points" since that's what Obama tried to use to dismiss any well thought out discussion yesterday as well.

Rick

 

[PatekPhilippe]

Ok, the Rs were so in sync with talking points it was embarrassing, Obama was in command. The Dems hardly said anything, he took total control of that meeting and continued to engage the Republicans but they refused to do anything but repeat the same old shit.

I thought it was successful and in spite of Reid saying they haven't been talking about reconcilliation, they are going to get it done with or without conservative input and imo, reconcilliation is the only option at this point.

Obama was in command. The Dems hardly said anything,

I agree...the President had 119 minutes, the Democrats had 243 minutes and DIDN'T SAY A GOD DAMN THING....once again we find common ground Sarah!!!!

The Democrats didn't say much at all. Better than opening mouth and inserting foot like the Rs did tho..

So what...you got to give them an A for effort...better than sitting there with their thumbs up their asses like the D's and Obama who did nothing but spew DNC talking points.

About the only thing he got right was "I'm the President." Then he lied and said "We're not campaigning anymore." He's done nothing BUT campaign the last year...that's why his numbers are in the shitter. At least in November or 2012 he can stop campaigning after he loses the White House.

 

[Foxfyre]

Defense shields up and braced for incoming:

Excerpted from Ann Coulters 2/25/10 syndicated column:

Republicans can't stop the Democrats from socializing health care: They are a tiny minority party in both the House and the Senate. (Note to America: You might want to keep this in mind next time you go to the polls.)

As the Democratic base has been hysterically pointing out, both the House and the Senate have already passed national health care bills. Either body could vote for the other's bill, and -- presto! -- Obama would have a national health care bill, replete with death panels, abortion coverage and lots and lots of new government commissions!

Sadly, as the president's Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel has noted, the Democratic base is "@#$%^ retarded."

The reason massive Democratic majorities in Congress aren't enough to pass socialist health care is AMERICANS DON'T WANT SOCIALIZED MEDICINE!

In fact, you might say that the nation is in a boiling cauldron of rage against it. Consequently, a lot of Democrats are suddenly having second thoughts about vast new government commissions regulating every aspect of Americans' medical care.

Obama isn't stupid -- he's not seriously trying to get a health care bill passed. The whole purpose of this public "summit" with the minority party is to muddy up the Republicans before the November elections. You know, the elections Democrats are going to lose because of this whole health care thing.

Right now, Americans are hopping mad, swinging a stick and hoping to hit anyone who so much as thinks about nationalizing health care.

If they could, Americans would cut the power to the Capitol, throw everyone out and try to deport them. (Whereas I say: Anyone in Washington, D.C., who can produce an original copy of a valid U.S. birth certificate should be allowed to stay.)

But the Democrats think it's a good strategy to call the Republicans "The Party of No." When it comes to Obamacare, Americans don't want a party of "No," they want a party of "Hell, No!" or, as Rahm Emanuel might say, "*&^%$#@ No!"

Anybody want to say she's wrong?

 

[California Girl]

Ok, the Rs were so in sync with talking points it was embarrassing, Obama was in command. The Dems hardly said anything, he took total control of that meeting and continued to engage the Republicans but they refused to do anything but repeat the same old shit.

I thought it was successful and in spite of Reid saying they haven't been talking about reconcilliation, they are going to get it done with or without conservative input and imo, reconcilliation is the only option at this point.

I don't know what you were watching, but even all of the major news networks say the exact opposite of what you're saying. They all say that Obama and the Democrats looked silly and came out far behind where they were when they went in to this "summit."

And reconciliation isn't really even an option at this point, the Democrats don't even have the votes right now to pass this piece of crap bill that way.

Rick

Reconciliation is certainly an option and the probable way they will begin piecing this bill together. You don't know what you are talking about.

Your entire first paragraph was such a talking point.. Too funny.

Two small but quite significant points. Firstly, 'piecing this bill together' is not reconciliation. Secondly, Obama, Reid, Clinton, and Biden all spoke out against Reconciliation previously, back in '06. At that time, Obama said it was against the principles and intent of the Founding Fathers. So, my question to you Sarah is this..... Which one of the Founding Fathers has since changed their view on reconciliation. If it was against the very foundations of our country in '06, how the hell is it okay now?

 

[Ame®icano]

That "very large stack of paper" is the friggin' bill, and those "talking points" are nothing more than reading crap that's actually in that bill.