A question for Republicans

[RetiredGySgt]

Because shitstain, they are able to BUY politicians to make what is clearly unethical "legal".

Why do you think Obama wants to end "insider trading" in congress. It's legal, but is it ethical?

Why do you think Boehner could pass out BRIBES on the house floor just before a vote. BECAUSE IT'S PERFECTLY LEGAL. So should "BRIBES" be legal? If you think they should, you are worse than I thought.

Republican Minority Leader John Boehner explains why he handed out bribes on the House floor - YouTube

Four fucking years and he's suddenly realized that insider trading is illegal for everyone except congress? Ohhhh yea, he really 'wants' to end it. Damn, you are such a sucker.... he's scared... and insider trading is the one thing he's got.

Suddenly, he realizes that he forgot his promise to 'clean up Washington'.

As if he didn't have enough Republican fuck ups to worry about.

And yet while he was a Senator and while he had a Democratic Congress he did NOTHING. Never mentioned it, never said a word about it. Now all of a sudden it is a problem? Where was he while Pelosi and Reid got rich?

 

[rdean]

Once again you dumb ass, they pay the LEGAL rates based on what their income sources are. I don't see you screaming for all the rich Liberals to pay extra.

Because shitstain, they are able to BUY politicians to make what is clearly unethical "legal".

Why do you think Obama wants to end "insider trading" in congress. It's legal, but is it ethical?

Why do you think Boehner could pass out BRIBES on the house floor just before a vote. BECAUSE IT'S PERFECTLY LEGAL. So should "BRIBES" be legal? If you think they should, you are worse than I thought.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAC2xeT2yOg]Republican Minority Leader John Boehner explains why he handed out bribes on the House floor - YouTube[/ame]

RETARD ALERT, retard alert.

You didn't need to alert us. We already KNEW you were a "tard". But thanks for being so thoughtful.

I bought you a "TEA" Shirt:

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Should the idle rich, who don't work, pay taxes at a lower rate than people who do work?

What amount the rich pay in taxes isn’t the issue.

The issue is the desire of republicans to balance the budget on the backs of the working middle class, the disabled, and elderly while keeping taxes low for the wealthy.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Should the idle rich, who don't work, pay taxes at a lower rate than people who do work?

What amount the rich pay in taxes isn’t the issue.

The issue is the desire of republicans to balance the budget on the backs of the working middle class, the disabled, and elderly while keeping taxes low for the wealthy.

Wrong as usual. Once again the rich are not the only ones that get a lower tax on investment income. So tell us why do you support demonizing law abiding people simply because they have more money then you? Why do you support increasing taxes on the middle class?

 

[rdean]

Four fucking years and he's suddenly realized that insider trading is illegal for everyone except congress? Ohhhh yea, he really 'wants' to end it. Damn, you are such a sucker.... he's scared... and insider trading is the one thing he's got.

Suddenly, he realizes that he forgot his promise to 'clean up Washington'.

As if he didn't have enough Republican fuck ups to worry about.

And yet while he was a Senator and while he had a Democratic Congress he did NOTHING. Never mentioned it, never said a word about it. Now all of a sudden it is a problem? Where was he while Pelosi and Reid got rich?

Why should it always be the Democrats who have to do the right thing? Why can't Republicans EVER do anything good? Aren't they the ones who claim to be so "moral" and have all these "values"? Yet they seem to have a shit excuse for every dirty thing they do. Says a lot about you for defending them.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

As if he didn't have enough Republican fuck ups to worry about.

And yet while he was a Senator and while he had a Democratic Congress he did NOTHING. Never mentioned it, never said a word about it. Now all of a sudden it is a problem? Where was he while Pelosi and Reid got rich?

Why should it always be the Democrats who have to do the right thing? Why can't Republicans EVER do anything good? Aren't they the ones who claim to be so "moral" and have all these "values"? Yet they seem to have a shit excuse for every dirty thing they do. Says a lot about you for defending them.

In other words you got nothing, thanks for admitting it.

 

[Charles_Main]

Should the idle rich, who don't work, pay taxes at a lower rate than people who do work?

If they are investing their money, and thereby providing Capital for Businesses to Grow, They are not Idle! If they were truly idle and just sat their money in Savings accounts, they would pay regular income tax on said interest. Duh. That is the whole point to lower Cap Gains Rates, to encourage people with lots of money. To do more with their money than just let it sit and Gain Interest. To encourage them to invest their money in more risky, but more Economically Beneficial Investments.

But again, why do I find myself trying to argue with a pure Socialist like Chris. It's not that he is to dumb to understand it, he just chooses to ignore it, Because he despises everything about Capitalism and want to see it end.

 

[freedombecki]

Should the idle rich, who don't work, pay taxes at a lower rate than people who do work?

What amount the rich pay in taxes isn’t the issue.

The issue is the desire of republicans to balance the budget on the backs of the working middle class, the disabled, and elderly while keeping taxes low for the wealthy.

That's what Obama does every time he spends another trillion dollars. So far, he's trying to spend 2 trillion a year, but the Republicans in Congress, led by John Boehner, whom your fellow aparatchik pilloried, stopped him.

When the budget is balanced, everyone benefits--the working middle class, the disabled, and the elderly, the poor, and the rich.

All it takes is faith in the American system.

Obama doesn't have any, so his thrust has been to spend it all and then some before we take his job away, and that is gonna happen soon.

 

[Dot Com]

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Director's Blog » Blog Archive » Trends in the Distribution of Income

CBO finds that between 1979 and 2007:

For the 1 percent of the population with the highest income, average real after-tax household income grew by 275 percent (see figure below).
For others in the 20 percent of the population with the highest income, average real after-tax household income grew by 65 percent.
For the 60 percent of the population in the middle of the income scale, the growth in average real after-tax household income was just under 40 percent.
For the 20 percent of the population with the lowest income, the growth in average real after-tax household income was about 18 percent.

 

[Intense]

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Director's Blog » Blog Archive » Trends in the Distribution of Income

CBO finds that between 1979 and 2007:

For the 1 percent of the population with the highest income, average real after-tax household income grew by 275 percent (see figure below).
For others in the 20 percent of the population with the highest income, average real after-tax household income grew by 65 percent.
For the 60 percent of the population in the middle of the income scale, the growth in average real after-tax household income was just under 40 percent.
For the 20 percent of the population with the lowest income, the growth in average real after-tax household income was about 18 percent.

You really want to compare Obama to Carter?

Is this a Precious Moment?

What do you have on inflation ?

What to you have on Retirement Investment Interest?

Spending Power?

 

[Listening]

Should the idle rich, who don't work, pay taxes at a lower rate than people who do work?

They don't.

So your question is loaded lie.

Romney pays 60-65%.

You pay 22%.

That makes you a freeloader.

 

[Listening]

yes

Director's Blog » Blog Archive » Trends in the Distribution of Income

CBO finds that between 1979 and 2007:

For the 1 percent of the population with the highest income, average real after-tax household income grew by 275 percent (see figure below).
For others in the 20 percent of the population with the highest income, average real after-tax household income grew by 65 percent.
For the 60 percent of the population in the middle of the income scale, the growth in average real after-tax household income was just under 40 percent.
For the 20 percent of the population with the lowest income, the growth in average real after-tax household income was about 18 percent.

Which might be an argument if people stayed in those quintiles.

News Flash: They don't !

So, how are you going to average out what a person has seen in terms of income growth ?

Failed argument #369 by the left.

 

[Full-Auto]

As if he didn't have enough Republican fuck ups to worry about.

And yet while he was a Senator and while he had a Democratic Congress he did NOTHING. Never mentioned it, never said a word about it. Now all of a sudden it is a problem? Where was he while Pelosi and Reid got rich?

Why should it always be the Democrats who have to do the right thing? Why can't Republicans EVER do anything good? Aren't they the ones who claim to be so "moral" and have all these "values"? Yet they seem to have a shit excuse for every dirty thing they do. Says a lot about you for defending them.

How is double taxation the right thing? All Americans should be taxed at the same rate regardless of income.

 

[Listening]

As if he didn't have enough Republican fuck ups to worry about.

And yet while he was a Senator and while he had a Democratic Congress he did NOTHING. Never mentioned it, never said a word about it. Now all of a sudden it is a problem? Where was he while Pelosi and Reid got rich?

Why should it always be the Democrats who have to do the right thing?

The democrats have never done the right thing. Unless you call bailing out a private corporation the right thing.

ooops I forgot...to you...buying votes is the right thing.

My mistake.

 

[Intense]

And yet while he was a Senator and while he had a Democratic Congress he did NOTHING. Never mentioned it, never said a word about it. Now all of a sudden it is a problem? Where was he while Pelosi and Reid got rich?

Why should it always be the Democrats who have to do the right thing? Why can't Republicans EVER do anything good? Aren't they the ones who claim to be so "moral" and have all these "values"? Yet they seem to have a shit excuse for every dirty thing they do. Says a lot about you for defending them.

How is double taxation the right thing? All Americans should be taxed at the same rate regardless of income.

The thing is that Investment Income is not necessarily double taxed. You are taxed on the Profit, the Return. That said, my argument would bring Employment Income down to the Investment level, and start taxing Everyone based on a uniform Percentage of what they actually earn, including Benefits.

 

[Listening]

How can the poor pay when they have no money????

You are taxed on your income, the same as everyone else. Deal with it. I'm poor and I can't pay my cable bill? Really? I'm poor and they are threatening to disconnect my cell phone? Yeah Right. I'm poor and I think I should not have to pay anything, but, but, but, but, I have the right to impose my will on others, against their will, at their expense. Those days are numbered. Learn to Prioritize.

The rich who don't work can afford to pay a little bit more.

The working poor with families deserve a break.

If you can't see that, I feel sorry for you.

Why don't you pay some more ?

Instead of deciding what other "should" do.

I am sure your burn rate is low since you still live at home.

 

[ilia25]

Should the idle rich, who don't work, pay taxes at a lower rate than people who do work?

I'd support a Flat Percentage Tax at a fair, low rate that treated all income the same, Investment, Dividend, Salary, be you Rich or Poor. Everybody should Pay Their Share.

That would make the poor paying more and the rich paying less in taxes, than they are paying now.

As for fairness -- do you think it is fair that some hard working suit is making 100 times more than an equally hard working, but a less talented janitor? Some lucky people are just born with more talent than the others -- so why we should reward their luck?

I think there is nothing unfair if a guy making more than a million a year would have their marginal tax rate set at 70%.

 

[Listening]

Should the idle rich, who don't work, pay taxes at a lower rate than people who do work?

I'd support a Flat Percentage Tax at a fair, low rate that treated all income the same, Investment, Dividend, Salary, be you Rich or Poor. Everybody should Pay Their Share.

That would make the poor paying more and the rich paying less in taxes, than they are paying now.

As for fairness -- do you think it is fair that some hard working suit is making 100 times more than an equally hard working, but a less talented janitor? Some lucky people are just born with more talent than the others -- so why we should reward their luck?

I think there is nothing unfair if a guy making more than a million a year would have their marginal tax rate set at 70%.

This is so funny.

There are very few jobs that pay 1,000,000 a year. Which means you are going to tax capital gains.

So the rich are going to take less risks and there will be less need for janitors.

You should apply to be on Obama's econcomic team. You are a stupid as the rest of them.

 

[Big Fitz]

Should the idle rich, who don't work, pay taxes at a lower rate than people who do work?

I'd support a Flat Percentage Tax at a fair, low rate that treated all income the same, Investment, Dividend, Salary, be you Rich or Poor. Everybody should Pay Their Share.

That would make the poor paying more and the rich paying less in taxes, than they are paying now.

As for fairness -- do you think it is fair that some hard working suit is making 100 times more than an equally hard working, but a less talented janitor? Some lucky people are just born with more talent than the others -- so why we should reward their luck?

I think there is nothing unfair if a guy making more than a million a year would have their marginal tax rate set at 70%.

Is 13% of 25,000 dollars less than 13% of 2.5 million dollars? With withholding, who's going to notice? Just withhold the fat 13% and let them keep the rest. Sounds very fair to me if you tax income.

 

[beagle9]

Should the idle rich, who don't work, pay taxes at a lower rate than people who do work?

My take on that question is this, at what point do we begin to "reward" success in this nation then ?

Where are the "rewards" for being smart and successful now, just like they have always been included as a part of the success stories found in the American experience?

Now what has not been a part of that experience, and should be always under fire, is catching as much as possible (all of the illegal activity found in greed/fraud that is undermining this nation) in which has been going on bad lately, and in which we all do know about. This type of activity, has since created some very specific super corrupt rich people, who have become tyrants in many ways, and we all know just about now upon who they are (some have already been sent to prison), and what there is to know about them also.

Hec, the nations troubles and woes to some extent, are tied directly to these types of individuals in many ways, and for the ones who are out there and still on the loose, they have been working very hard to try and put everyone who is interested in them, and their ways of aquiring their wealth corruptly, on to a cold trail somehow. More will fall soon enough, but the blanketing rhetoric spewed by the whitehouse for campaign purposes, is pure class warfare, and is simply all done for political reasons when blanketing or stereo typing the rich in the way that it is being done now.

If a person who has worked most of their life or even some of their life in America, where as they then took their smart minds or backbones, and figured out a way to become far more successful with them (i.e. in a moral and legal way), then should they be punished in that success afterwards, through being stereo typed as bad by their government ? No they shouldnot, and if there are incentives being found all over the place after they have legally obtained their wealth in a legal and honest way, then so be it. Otherwise then, where would the incentive be for those who are climbing the ladder found, if they see the above who are at the top of the ladder, being knocked off of it (or) are now being looked at as being bad all due their successes by their governemnt, who then lets or allows the real criminals go free ?

Blanket accusations against wealth in the hands of many whom do have that wealth, is pure and unadulterated class warfare at it's best when being waged in a blanket term or way by the government. When a government starts targeting that wealth for it's agenda, in which it claims that it has to draw new revenue from now, and thus wants that new revenue stream to pay for continued entitlement programs or redistribution of that wealth down the road a ways (to whom?), then this nation has a serious problem then.

Now if the government constantly said that it was going to go after the bad guy's and gal's who have done wrong within their means of obtaining wealth in this nation by corrupt means, where as the bad guy's and/or gal's done this in an illegal or corrupt way, then the nation would have no problem of government going after and being whole heartedly in support always of that kind of action, but that is not what is going on here is it ?

The tax code is already progressive, in which was set up many many years ago in this nation, and it worked well back in the olden days perfectly, or up until all the loop holes and wide gaps that were created or were added, in which were then re-interpreted by scheming accountants, who then exploited these things in ways that border lined on being illegal or were illegal in the ways that they used them, so looking at these areas is definitely a place to start with reform, and is also A-ok by the nation to take a look see in that respect, but this fair share talk and tax the rich (whom ever they may be) more sort of talk, is not what the people want, and they will vote against this come election time if it continues.

This is totally idiotic as to what is going on in this nation right now, where as all the incentives that were out there, in which made a person or persons at the bottom or mid levels "strive" for success because of, and in which are being threatened daily now with this blanket socialism kind of talk going on, will send the dems packing before long, I am sure of it.

They then can count themselves as failures for their cause and their party, because they wanted to include all in this blanketing speak concerning the rich, and their successes that were gained and found in the nation in trust of. It's kind of like when Bush claimed from his mouth that these illegals were just doing the job's that Americans wouldn't do, thus blanketing all American workers at a certain level as bums in such speak.. You see what I mean by government getting out of control with this sort of thing?

I can see why people are blowing back against them badly on such rhetoric being spewed so wrecklessly by them now.. If these crazy politicians (or) this President would just get it finally somehow, and would become the President for all in the nation, and in a fair minded, more level headed, and honest sort of way when speaking in concerns of, then we would have something going once again in this America.

The only thing the President should be doing that is not class warfare, (if he wants to), along with his party, is lifting up those for whom they want to (i.e. the unions for example) in order to leverage better for the working class their wages and benefits, and their lack of voice and power against those who are not wanting to distribute the wealth within their companies (i.e. through profit sharing programs and etc.), any better than what they are these days, and also to create a (national grading system), and this where unions are not active in those states who are so called "right to work states" in order to hopefully shame them into doing what is right by such a system that would be totally ok by the working class I think just as well. This is just about the extent of his power as the President, so the quicker he learns this, then the better off he will be as the President.

Stop with the class warfare and dum speak from the oval office already, and begin running this nation for all, instead of getting bogged down by special interest groups, who have led this President astray badly.

A good example of a situation that has taken place over time in this nation is this. Lets say XYZ corporation has an executive that goes out and lands a huge account (one of many), so his CEO gives him these big incentives or bonuses for doing this, in which end up being so aggregious in the amounts of, it's almost like no one works any lower down the ladder than this cat does when given him, so the ones who are at the bottom or mid levels in the company, well they begin to suffer greatly as a result of this selfishness going on at the top, while the top takes to much in respect to it all. Now here is where the folly comes into play, if the lower worker is given say $5.00 an hour in this American economy with no benefits, and let's just say that the manager/executive who had been given so much in the deal by his CEO, and then the workforce so very little, where as next this exec. he then generously goes home and gives part of that money to his wife. Ok, follow me now, then she goes out and opens up a bakery with some of that money, but then afterwards she is found standing there and waiting on a customer or many customers to come in and do some business with her, and this within her grand opening, but uh ohhh (big problem) no customers yet, but why? Hmmmm!

It's because she is in the heart of an area where most of the workers who work for the factory are or do live within this case, and now the problem is, is that they no longer make enough money to go out and get that high priced dougnut she needs to sell, in order to stay open in the first few years that she needs to, especially while she is heavily dependent upon them to come in and buy from her these things. OK, so these workers are barely getting by now, because of her husband and his band of merry thieves who are at the top, and for whom have decided that they don't need anymore these workers to make a living wage or to have decent benefits also, and so they have decided now to pay them almost what slavery was paying back in the day (in relation to China workers or Mexican workers etc.), in hopes to get by with it until they these executives at some point bail (golden parachute), especially where there are no unions involved.

So in the meantime, his wifes bakery slides under in the community she opened it up in, because this is where the company and her very own husband has since broken that community and it's local economy, all by their greed and lack of respect for that community, town, state or which ever is or was the case as is found in these things where they all do live.

I guess the only answer for immoral capitalist run amuck now in this nation, is to meet it with the power of a Union if it cannot regulate or police/watch its ownself anylonger, and to also have a government who plays fair on both sides of the issues, when a case or cases are therefore brought before that government to possibly mediate if nessesary when things get out of hand.