A Modern Emancipation Proclamation

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Do you support the resolution as written in the OP?

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  2. I mostly support it but do have some problems which I will explain.

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  1. Foxfyre
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    A MODERN EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION

    WHEREAS, Federal spending is out of control to the point that not only is there a lack of will to balance the budget, but it is fast becoming an impossibility, and

    WHEREAS, the ability to use other people's money to increase one's personal power, prestige, influence, and wealth makes it irrisistible to avoid doing that, and

    WHEREAS, it is human nature to become comfortable and dependent on government benefits we receive, and

    WHEREAS, we Americans as a people have long abandoned a concept of restricting government to what the Constitution says it can do and we now allow government to do anything not specifically prohibited by the Constitution, and

    WHEREAS, the resulting entitlement mentality at all levels from big corporations to agricultural subsidies to the typical welfare recipient is a pervasive corrupting force infecting both those in government and the beneficiaries of government benevolence,

    THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that a constitutional amendment must be passed to prohibit the federal government at any level from bestowing any form of benevolence or benefit upon any person, group, demographic, or entity that does not equally benefit all regardless of political leanings and/or socioeconomic status.

    This amendment will not affect or apply to any policies of state or local governments.

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    Your observations, comments, opinions, objections, and rebuttal follows. . . . .
     
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    Outstanding (as always) Fox! :clap2: We need to reform the corruption in Washington and stuff like this is the first step in doing that.
     
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    To generalized
     
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    other countries do it also even China.It is not a corrupting influence if managed correctly
     
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    There is a reason the framers did not add ANY entitlements to the Constitution. They didn't add healthcare, despite the fact that people got sick and they had doctors back then. They didn't add Social Security, despite the fact that they had people hungry back then. They didn't add government subsidized housing, despite the fact that they had homeless back then.

    Sadly, we've allowed the Communism/Marxism/Socialism movements of the late 1800's / early 1900's to hijack a good portion of our government and we're seeing the results of that now. $16 trillion in debt, high unemployment, and catastrophic failure every where. We have to take it back (we made a great first step in doing so during the November 2010 elections, we need to take another huge step this November). We need more Rand Paul's and Paul Ryan's and we need to "drain the swamp" of the radicals like Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and Barack Obama.
     
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    Then we can stop calling ourselves a Christian nation? When Muslims are feeding their poor and hungry from govt funds, we should be ashamed to pass this.
     
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    Your still subject to Supreme Court review of what the amendment means. I think enumerating what the federal government is limited to spending funds on and excluding all others might be a better course.
     
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    I find it terribly disturbing that the left keeps pointing to China as an example of what to be like. They are a true Communist nation, complete with oppression and misery.

    Every liberal on USMB points to China and not too long ago, psycho Elizabeth Warren stated that China spends 9% of their GDP on infrastructure while we spend 1%, as if China is a nation we should admire and model ourselves after.

    Can you help me understand MG why you guys keep point to China? The people in China would literally committ murder to get away from their oppressive Communist regime and come here to America. China has massive ghost towns, complete with malls, rails, etc. that are completely empty because they spend money developing "infrastructure" that is not needed. Not exactly something to model yourself after.
     
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    Not true. The govt. bough Jeffersons library beause he was old and poor.
    There were other instances where petitioning Congress brought govt. relief.
    Free land from the US govt. was given to all that would settle and work the land.
    The Indians recieved welfare only to have greedy whites steal the materials given, the Wild West was given fed troop protection when petitioned, even if it was not a state.
    The railroads recieved govt. help to build the TCR. That helped people move west and ease the long journey by boat around the southern coast of South America.
    The Freedmans office which help blacks to vote and to receive their 40 acres and a mule for compen\sation of being enslaved.
    lincoln wanted 40 million in 6% bonds to pay for emancipation by payment of slaves to slave owners.
     
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    The operative words in the post were, "not in the Constitution". It still stands that none of what you wrote is in the Constitution.
     

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