CDZ A look at Trump’s racism—is it as bad as people think?

[Slyhunter]

Wrong.

In this specific instance, he called BOTH groups fine people, including violent radical leftists who are no better than white supremacists. He was a fool for saying this bc it was taken out of context from the get-go. Funny how you emit part of the story. I’m not surprised though, not in the least. The “truth” to you is whatever fits your worldview. Anything else is disposable.

I win. You lose.

Why do you think anyone cares what Paul Ryan thinks? You think we’ll just be like, “well if Paul Ryan says it’s racist, it MUST be racist “? We have our own minds to perceive the world around us. I don’t need anyone to tell me what to believe. It’s frightening to me you seem to think we need others to tell us what to think.

You can believe whatever you want. Trump is a racist. That is a fact whether your believe it or not.

There is a lot of evidence that Obama was a black racist....prominently that he followed a waycist so called religious leader for 20 years aka. Rev. Wright whom obama only broke with when he decided to run for the presidency.
Ben Stein: Obama ‘most racist president’ in American history

Now......Let’s take the New Black Panther Party controversy for a moment. This is a group that blatantly espouses anti-white and antisemitic views. Even the Southern Poverty Law Center has called them a black racist hate group. When several of their thugs showed up at polling centers at Philadelphia in 2008 carrying police batons and calling out racial slurs at voters, the Obama administration declined to prosecute that for voter intimidation. It’s not hard to imagine what would have happened if members of the Klu Klux Klan showed up at an Alabama polling station carrying weapons. Enough said.

One of the most shocking comments I have heard an American president make were the words uttered about Russian president Vladimir Putin. After the media pressed Obama on his relationship with Putin in 2013, Obama stated, “He’s got that kind of slouch, looking like the bored kid in the back of the classroom.” Can you imagine a white president saying that about a black African leader? Could this be the reason our relationship with Russia has deteriorated so badly?

Then there is the incident where Harvard professor Skip Gates was arrested for disorderly conduct after police were called to the house for a possible burglary. Obama admitted he knew none of the details but proceeded to state that the police acted stupidly in arresting the professor. Don’t we have due process in this country? Is that comment not borne out of an anti-white worldview? Obama is the president of the United States as he famously said, not the president of black America.

Michelle Obama played the racist card by suggesting during a speech to a high school graduation ceremony that students should monitor their relatives and friends for anti-minority comments. Hmmm. I’ve never heard Michelle Obama talk about black racists and their comments around the dinner table. I wonder what the reason could be?

The Obamas took the country backwards and divided the population among racial lines. There is more animosity between the races than I have ever seen in my lifetime. (And, I grew up in the deep south.) Yes, there are racist white people. However, their views are not mainstream, nor are they accepted in society. On the other hand, black racism is tolerated. Just look at the actions and words of our first family. How’s that post racial America working out for ya?

There is no evidence that President Trump is racist.

He called white supremicists “very fine people”.
More evidence abounds.

When you call Klansmen “Very fine people” you’re a racist. Sorry.

He didn't call Klansmen "very fine people" he called those who wanted to keep the Rebel flag and statues some of whom are very fine people. Some of whom were not Klansmen. You can't get a grip that there are people who believe in States rights who aren't Klansmen and that makes you biased.

 

[candycorn]

I don’t think I called you “stupid”. If I did, I apologize.
Most have figured out how to properly reply to a post though. Just saying.

I think you have a problem with definitions. Stating that someone cannot be a judge because of their heritage (as Trump did) is racist. Sorry. That is just an example of racism that, for some reason, you ignore.

Add in that, the unimaginable cruelty of having a hard and fast policy of ripping kids from their family when you really do not need to do that in every case….

It speaks for itself.

and another lie..........you should be censored and reprimanded for all your lies.................show this board where Trump said someone cannot be a judge because of his heritage....you either made that up, or some moronic liar told you Trump said that. Put up or shut up. Have you no shame...most liars when they are caught slink away but you just tell more lies. It must suck to be you.

I think (I'm possibly wrong and am giving your too much credit) that you knew I was speaking to being a judge in a case that features our pervert commander in chief.

Perhaps you are just not good at saying what you really mean? Is English your first language?....I am more linient with those who have a language problem. Let me try and help you out...............Trump said the judge is biased against him because he is building a wall between Mexico and the U.S. He did not say as you claimed that he cannot be a judge....he just wanted the judge to recuse himself in this case....big difference from what you were claiming. Judges recuse themselves all the time....but still are judges.

And why did he want the judge from Indiana to recuse himself.....

Wait for it....

That has already been explained to you.....because Trump felt he was biased based on Trump's position against illegal mexican immigrants aka his desire to build a wall between Mexico and the U.S.A. a very understandable thing. Perhaps this will explain it better.....If you were being tried for running over a amish kid in your car...would you want a amish judge?

Again, why did Trump feel that way?

Why not just answer the question..... Why did Trump want the judge from Indiana to recuse himself ?

 

[candycorn]

Wrong.

In this specific instance, he called BOTH groups fine people, including violent radical leftists who are no better than white supremacists. He was a fool for saying this bc it was taken out of context from the get-go. Funny how you emit part of the story. I’m not surprised though, not in the least. The “truth” to you is whatever fits your worldview. Anything else is disposable.

I win. You lose.

You can believe whatever you want. Trump is a racist. That is a fact whether your believe it or not.

There is a lot of evidence that Obama was a black racist....prominently that he followed a waycist so called religious leader for 20 years aka. Rev. Wright whom obama only broke with when he decided to run for the presidency.
Ben Stein: Obama ‘most racist president’ in American history

Now......Let’s take the New Black Panther Party controversy for a moment. This is a group that blatantly espouses anti-white and antisemitic views. Even the Southern Poverty Law Center has called them a black racist hate group. When several of their thugs showed up at polling centers at Philadelphia in 2008 carrying police batons and calling out racial slurs at voters, the Obama administration declined to prosecute that for voter intimidation. It’s not hard to imagine what would have happened if members of the Klu Klux Klan showed up at an Alabama polling station carrying weapons. Enough said.

One of the most shocking comments I have heard an American president make were the words uttered about Russian president Vladimir Putin. After the media pressed Obama on his relationship with Putin in 2013, Obama stated, “He’s got that kind of slouch, looking like the bored kid in the back of the classroom.” Can you imagine a white president saying that about a black African leader? Could this be the reason our relationship with Russia has deteriorated so badly?

Then there is the incident where Harvard professor Skip Gates was arrested for disorderly conduct after police were called to the house for a possible burglary. Obama admitted he knew none of the details but proceeded to state that the police acted stupidly in arresting the professor. Don’t we have due process in this country? Is that comment not borne out of an anti-white worldview? Obama is the president of the United States as he famously said, not the president of black America.

Michelle Obama played the racist card by suggesting during a speech to a high school graduation ceremony that students should monitor their relatives and friends for anti-minority comments. Hmmm. I’ve never heard Michelle Obama talk about black racists and their comments around the dinner table. I wonder what the reason could be?

The Obamas took the country backwards and divided the population among racial lines. There is more animosity between the races than I have ever seen in my lifetime. (And, I grew up in the deep south.) Yes, there are racist white people. However, their views are not mainstream, nor are they accepted in society. On the other hand, black racism is tolerated. Just look at the actions and words of our first family. How’s that post racial America working out for ya?

There is no evidence that President Trump is racist.

He called white supremicists “very fine people”.
More evidence abounds.

When you call Klansmen “Very fine people” you’re a racist. Sorry.

He didn't call Klansmen "very fine people" he called those who wanted to keep the Rebel flag and statues some of whom are very fine people. Some of whom were not Klansmen. You can't get a grip that there are people who believe in States rights who aren't Klansmen and that makes you biased.

State's rights? The feds were involved?

 

[Slyhunter]

Wrong.

In this specific instance, he called BOTH groups fine people, including violent radical leftists who are no better than white supremacists. He was a fool for saying this bc it was taken out of context from the get-go. Funny how you emit part of the story. I’m not surprised though, not in the least. The “truth” to you is whatever fits your worldview. Anything else is disposable.

I win. You lose.

When you call Klansmen “Very fine people” you’re a racist. Sorry.

He didn't call Klansmen "very fine people" he called those who wanted to keep the Rebel flag and statues some of whom are very fine people. Some of whom were not Klansmen. You can't get a grip that there are people who believe in States rights who aren't Klansmen and that makes you biased.

State's rights? The feds were involved?

Dumb ass that is the reason those who are fighting for Confederate symbols are fighting for those symbols. Not all of them are KlansMen. You need to take a step back and stay out of the conversation if you don't know wtf you are talking about.

Yo fuckface. So what you're saying is that the klansmen there were fighting Trump's white house?

I'm sorry you made absolutely no sense at all.
I'm saying that when Trump said Both sides had some "very find People" he was talking about both sides of the argument, the protesting, to have Confederate statues removed/destroyed.

What you are saying now made absolutely no sense at all.

 

[Slyhunter]

Wrong.

In this specific instance, he called BOTH groups fine people, including violent radical leftists who are no better than white supremacists. He was a fool for saying this bc it was taken out of context from the get-go. Funny how you emit part of the story. I’m not surprised though, not in the least. The “truth” to you is whatever fits your worldview. Anything else is disposable.

I win. You lose.

There is a lot of evidence that Obama was a black racist....prominently that he followed a waycist so called religious leader for 20 years aka. Rev. Wright whom obama only broke with when he decided to run for the presidency.
Ben Stein: Obama ‘most racist president’ in American history

Now......Let’s take the New Black Panther Party controversy for a moment. This is a group that blatantly espouses anti-white and antisemitic views. Even the Southern Poverty Law Center has called them a black racist hate group. When several of their thugs showed up at polling centers at Philadelphia in 2008 carrying police batons and calling out racial slurs at voters, the Obama administration declined to prosecute that for voter intimidation. It’s not hard to imagine what would have happened if members of the Klu Klux Klan showed up at an Alabama polling station carrying weapons. Enough said.

One of the most shocking comments I have heard an American president make were the words uttered about Russian president Vladimir Putin. After the media pressed Obama on his relationship with Putin in 2013, Obama stated, “He’s got that kind of slouch, looking like the bored kid in the back of the classroom.” Can you imagine a white president saying that about a black African leader? Could this be the reason our relationship with Russia has deteriorated so badly?

Then there is the incident where Harvard professor Skip Gates was arrested for disorderly conduct after police were called to the house for a possible burglary. Obama admitted he knew none of the details but proceeded to state that the police acted stupidly in arresting the professor. Don’t we have due process in this country? Is that comment not borne out of an anti-white worldview? Obama is the president of the United States as he famously said, not the president of black America.

Michelle Obama played the racist card by suggesting during a speech to a high school graduation ceremony that students should monitor their relatives and friends for anti-minority comments. Hmmm. I’ve never heard Michelle Obama talk about black racists and their comments around the dinner table. I wonder what the reason could be?

The Obamas took the country backwards and divided the population among racial lines. There is more animosity between the races than I have ever seen in my lifetime. (And, I grew up in the deep south.) Yes, there are racist white people. However, their views are not mainstream, nor are they accepted in society. On the other hand, black racism is tolerated. Just look at the actions and words of our first family. How’s that post racial America working out for ya?

There is no evidence that President Trump is racist.

He called white supremicists “very fine people”.
More evidence abounds.

When you call Klansmen “Very fine people” you’re a racist. Sorry.

He didn't call Klansmen "very fine people" he called those who wanted to keep the Rebel flag and statues some of whom are very fine people. Some of whom were not Klansmen. You can't get a grip that there are people who believe in States rights who aren't Klansmen and that makes you biased.

State's rights? The feds were involved?

Those fighting for Confederate crap being displayed are fighting for states rights. Most of whom, don't care about the color of your skin, and aren't Klansmen.

 

[Auld Phart]

Some people are not reading the nice little mod note I posted here. earlier.

"Zone 1": Clean Debate Zone (CDZ) / Introduce Yourself (Welcome Threads) / The Lounge: Civil discourse is the focus here, regardless of topic matter. Constructive criticism and debate is the tone. No insulting, name calling, or putting down other posters.

any future violators will be thread banned

 

[candycorn]

When you call Klansmen “Very fine people” you’re a racist. Sorry.

He didn't call Klansmen "very fine people" he called those who wanted to keep the Rebel flag and statues some of whom are very fine people. Some of whom were not Klansmen. You can't get a grip that there are people who believe in States rights who aren't Klansmen and that makes you biased.

State's rights? The feds were involved?

Dumb ass that is the reason those who are fighting for Confederate symbols are fighting for those symbols. Not all of them are KlansMen. You need to take a step back and stay out of the conversation if you don't know wtf you are talking about.

Yo fuckface. So what you're saying is that the klansmen there were fighting Trump's white house?

I'm sorry you made absolutely no sense at all.
I'm saying that when Trump said Both sides had some "very find People" he was talking about both sides of the argument, the protesting, to have Confederate statues removed/destroyed.

What you are saying now made absolutely no sense at all.

You said it was state's rights....not me.
I asked if the feds were involved.

Then you called me a "dumb ass" and cited the following: "that is the reason those who are fighting for Confederate symbols are fighting for those symbols".

If there were feds involved...they were Trump's. Nobody knows what in the hell YOU are talking about when you say "state's rights".

Now, the Klansmen who were there with their little tiki torches, and their racist chants; your Messiah called them "very fine people". If you don't think that is racist....that is your opinion. The rest of the world knows differently.

Donald probably doesn't care as much as you guys do if the relics that celebrate slavery and insurrection are there or not. But he sure doesn't mind taking the votes of those guys marching around with their torches, chanting, mowing down others with their cars...etc

 

[candycorn]

Some people are not reading the nice little mod note I posted here. earlier.

"Zone 1": Clean Debate Zone (CDZ) / Introduce Yourself (Welcome Threads) / The Lounge: Civil discourse is the focus here, regardless of topic matter. Constructive criticism and debate is the tone. No insulting, name calling, or putting down other posters.

any future violators will be thread banned

I apologize.

 

[candycorn]

Chanting "Jews will not replace us" is about confederate statues?

Now that is the largest quantity of bull shavocky I have ever heard of.

 

[Slyhunter]

He didn't call Klansmen "very fine people" he called those who wanted to keep the Rebel flag and statues some of whom are very fine people. Some of whom were not Klansmen. You can't get a grip that there are people who believe in States rights who aren't Klansmen and that makes you biased.

State's rights? The feds were involved?

Dumb ass that is the reason those who are fighting for Confederate symbols are fighting for those symbols. Not all of them are KlansMen. You need to take a step back and stay out of the conversation if you don't know wtf you are talking about.

Yo fuckface. So what you're saying is that the klansmen there were fighting Trump's white house?

I'm sorry you made absolutely no sense at all.
I'm saying that when Trump said Both sides had some "very find People" he was talking about both sides of the argument, the protesting, to have Confederate statues removed/destroyed.

What you are saying now made absolutely no sense at all.

You said it was state's rights....not me.
I asked if the feds were involved.

Then you called me a "dumb ass" and cited the following: "that is the reason those who are fighting for Confederate symbols are fighting for those symbols".

If there were feds involved...they were Trump's. Nobody knows what in the hell YOU are talking about when you say "state's rights".

Now, the Klansmen who were there with their little tiki torches, and their racist chants; your Messiah called them "very fine people". If you don't think that is racist....that is your opinion. The rest of the world knows differently.

Donald probably doesn't care as much as you guys do if the relics that celebrate slavery and insurrection are there or not. But he sure doesn't mind taking the votes of those guys marching around with their torches, chanting, mowing down others with their cars...etc

It's not racist because he was talking about those people fighting for the statues who were fighting for them because they believe in states rights. Not for the ones who belonged to the Klan. Not everyone protesting the destruction of the statues were KLAN MEMBERS! Can you understand that simple point?

 

[candycorn]

State's rights? The feds were involved?

Dumb ass that is the reason those who are fighting for Confederate symbols are fighting for those symbols. Not all of them are KlansMen. You need to take a step back and stay out of the conversation if you don't know wtf you are talking about.

Yo fuckface. So what you're saying is that the klansmen there were fighting Trump's white house?

I'm sorry you made absolutely no sense at all.
I'm saying that when Trump said Both sides had some "very find People" he was talking about both sides of the argument, the protesting, to have Confederate statues removed/destroyed.

What you are saying now made absolutely no sense at all.

You said it was state's rights....not me.
I asked if the feds were involved.

Then you called me a "dumb ass" and cited the following: "that is the reason those who are fighting for Confederate symbols are fighting for those symbols".

If there were feds involved...they were Trump's. Nobody knows what in the hell YOU are talking about when you say "state's rights".

Now, the Klansmen who were there with their little tiki torches, and their racist chants; your Messiah called them "very fine people". If you don't think that is racist....that is your opinion. The rest of the world knows differently.

Donald probably doesn't care as much as you guys do if the relics that celebrate slavery and insurrection are there or not. But he sure doesn't mind taking the votes of those guys marching around with their torches, chanting, mowing down others with their cars...etc

It's not racist because he was talking about those people fighting for the statues who were fighting for them because they believe in states rights. Not for the ones who belonged to the Klan. Not everyone protesting the destruction of the statues were KLAN MEMBERS! Can you understand that simple point?

Was the guy who mowed down the woman an innocent little protestor or a klansmen? I forget.
Were the guys chanting "Jews will not replace us" there for the statues of Jeb and Bobby Lee or klansmen? I forget.

Its a still picture but those who are there to keep the momentos of slavery and insurrection sure don't seem to mind the skinhead standing one foot from them with his Nazi flag. Maybe he just got bad directions and was looking for another demonstration down the street?

 

[Slyhunter]

Dumb ass that is the reason those who are fighting for Confederate symbols are fighting for those symbols. Not all of them are KlansMen. You need to take a step back and stay out of the conversation if you don't know wtf you are talking about.

Yo fuckface. So what you're saying is that the klansmen there were fighting Trump's white house?

I'm sorry you made absolutely no sense at all.
I'm saying that when Trump said Both sides had some "very find People" he was talking about both sides of the argument, the protesting, to have Confederate statues removed/destroyed.

What you are saying now made absolutely no sense at all.

You said it was state's rights....not me.
I asked if the feds were involved.

Then you called me a "dumb ass" and cited the following: "that is the reason those who are fighting for Confederate symbols are fighting for those symbols".

If there were feds involved...they were Trump's. Nobody knows what in the hell YOU are talking about when you say "state's rights".

Now, the Klansmen who were there with their little tiki torches, and their racist chants; your Messiah called them "very fine people". If you don't think that is racist....that is your opinion. The rest of the world knows differently.

Donald probably doesn't care as much as you guys do if the relics that celebrate slavery and insurrection are there or not. But he sure doesn't mind taking the votes of those guys marching around with their torches, chanting, mowing down others with their cars...etc

It's not racist because he was talking about those people fighting for the statues who were fighting for them because they believe in states rights. Not for the ones who belonged to the Klan. Not everyone protesting the destruction of the statues were KLAN MEMBERS! Can you understand that simple point?

Was the guy who mowed down the woman an innocent little protestor or a klansmen? I forget.
Were the guys chanting "Jews will not replace us" there for the statues of Jeb and Bobby Lee or klansmen? I forget.

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Its a still picture but those who are there to keep the momentos of slavery and insurrection sure don't seem to mind the skinhead standing one foot from them with his Nazi flag. Maybe he just got bad directions and was looking for another demonstration down the street?

Who the guy was that mowed down the woman is immaterial to whom Trump was speaking of when he said "there were good people on both sides."
Also immaterial is the fact that Klansmen chanted stupid shit in protest to the tearing down of the statue. It should not change the fact that there were State rights people also there fighting for keeping the statues intacted.

Should we ostracize the Democratic party and Hillary, because Hamas wanted them to win. Are we to characterize people by their followers now vs who they themselves in turn follow? Like Obama's mentor?
It doesn't matter who follows you, it matters who you follow.

 

[candycorn]

Yo fuckface. So what you're saying is that the klansmen there were fighting Trump's white house?

I'm sorry you made absolutely no sense at all.
I'm saying that when Trump said Both sides had some "very find People" he was talking about both sides of the argument, the protesting, to have Confederate statues removed/destroyed.

What you are saying now made absolutely no sense at all.

You said it was state's rights....not me.
I asked if the feds were involved.

Then you called me a "dumb ass" and cited the following: "that is the reason those who are fighting for Confederate symbols are fighting for those symbols".

If there were feds involved...they were Trump's. Nobody knows what in the hell YOU are talking about when you say "state's rights".

Now, the Klansmen who were there with their little tiki torches, and their racist chants; your Messiah called them "very fine people". If you don't think that is racist....that is your opinion. The rest of the world knows differently.

Donald probably doesn't care as much as you guys do if the relics that celebrate slavery and insurrection are there or not. But he sure doesn't mind taking the votes of those guys marching around with their torches, chanting, mowing down others with their cars...etc

It's not racist because he was talking about those people fighting for the statues who were fighting for them because they believe in states rights. Not for the ones who belonged to the Klan. Not everyone protesting the destruction of the statues were KLAN MEMBERS! Can you understand that simple point?

Was the guy who mowed down the woman an innocent little protestor or a klansmen? I forget.
Were the guys chanting "Jews will not replace us" there for the statues of Jeb and Bobby Lee or klansmen? I forget.

View attachment 197923

Its a still picture but those who are there to keep the momentos of slavery and insurrection sure don't seem to mind the skinhead standing one foot from them with his Nazi flag. Maybe he just got bad directions and was looking for another demonstration down the street?

Who the guy was that mowed down the woman is immaterial to whom Trump was speaking of when he said "there were good people on both sides."
Also immaterial is the fact that Klansmen chanted stupid shit in protest to the tearing down of the statue. It should not change the fact that there were State rights people also there fighting for keeping the statues intacted.

Should we ostracize the Democratic party and Hillary, because Hamas wanted them to win. Are we to characterize people by their followers now vs who they themselves in turn follow? Like Obama's mentor?
It doesn't matter who follows you, it matters who you follow.

And here we go with the "what about _______________________" in the defense of your messiah.

Never fails. Again, the states rights folks didn't seem to mind the skin head in the picture...did they?
Again, the states rights folks didn't seem to utter a peep at the tiki-torch-on-parade chanting "Jews will not replace us"...did they?

The "very fine" guy who organized the "states right" march said the following about the woman his attendee mowed down:

""Heather Heyer was a fat, disgusting Communist. Communists have killed 94 million. Looks like it was payback time."
He too blamed ambien for his comments according to Wikipedia. Looks like Roseanne may have been correct about it's side effect that makes you tweet dumb crap.

Here is mr. Very fine in his Trump hat.

If you say there just happened to be a few klansmen there and, oh by golly, it was just some nice old professional people wanting to keep their quaint little statues up...you can. Nobody with two working brain cells believes you for a second but--whatever.

The fact of the matter is that klansmen, states right jingoistic idiots, anti-semites, nazi's.....the clown pictured above....Trump doesn't mind taking their votes and Trump supporters don't care how racist you are as long as you vote for him.

 

[Slyhunter]

I'm sorry you made absolutely no sense at all.
I'm saying that when Trump said Both sides had some "very find People" he was talking about both sides of the argument, the protesting, to have Confederate statues removed/destroyed.

What you are saying now made absolutely no sense at all.

You said it was state's rights....not me.
I asked if the feds were involved.

Then you called me a "dumb ass" and cited the following: "that is the reason those who are fighting for Confederate symbols are fighting for those symbols".

If there were feds involved...they were Trump's. Nobody knows what in the hell YOU are talking about when you say "state's rights".

Now, the Klansmen who were there with their little tiki torches, and their racist chants; your Messiah called them "very fine people". If you don't think that is racist....that is your opinion. The rest of the world knows differently.

Donald probably doesn't care as much as you guys do if the relics that celebrate slavery and insurrection are there or not. But he sure doesn't mind taking the votes of those guys marching around with their torches, chanting, mowing down others with their cars...etc

It's not racist because he was talking about those people fighting for the statues who were fighting for them because they believe in states rights. Not for the ones who belonged to the Klan. Not everyone protesting the destruction of the statues were KLAN MEMBERS! Can you understand that simple point?

Was the guy who mowed down the woman an innocent little protestor or a klansmen? I forget.
Were the guys chanting "Jews will not replace us" there for the statues of Jeb and Bobby Lee or klansmen? I forget.

View attachment 197923

Its a still picture but those who are there to keep the momentos of slavery and insurrection sure don't seem to mind the skinhead standing one foot from them with his Nazi flag. Maybe he just got bad directions and was looking for another demonstration down the street?

Who the guy was that mowed down the woman is immaterial to whom Trump was speaking of when he said "there were good people on both sides."
Also immaterial is the fact that Klansmen chanted stupid shit in protest to the tearing down of the statue. It should not change the fact that there were State rights people also there fighting for keeping the statues intacted.

Should we ostracize the Democratic party and Hillary, because Hamas wanted them to win. Are we to characterize people by their followers now vs who they themselves in turn follow? Like Obama's mentor?
It doesn't matter who follows you, it matters who you follow.

And here we go with the "what about _______________________" in the defense of your messiah.

Never fails. Again, the states rights folks didn't seem to mind the skin head in the picture...did they?
Again, the states rights folks didn't seem to utter a peep at the tiki-torch-on-parade chanting "Jews will not replace us"...did they?

The "very fine" guy who organized the "states right" march said the following about the woman his attendee mowed down:

""Heather Heyer was a fat, disgusting Communist. Communists have killed 94 million. Looks like it was payback time."
He too blamed ambien for his comments according to Wikipedia. Looks like Roseanne may have been correct about it's side effect that makes you tweet dumb crap.

Here is mr. Very fine in his Trump hat.

View attachment 197924


If you say there just happened to be a few klansmen there and, oh by golly, it was just some nice old professional people wanting to keep their quaint little statues up...you can. Nobody with two working brain cells believes you for a second but--whatever.

The fact of the matter is that klansmen, states right jingoistic idiots, anti-semites, nazi's.....the clown pictured above....Trump doesn't mind taking their votes and Trump supporters don't care how racist you are as long as you vote for him.

You probably have no problem with BLM, antifa, and the Black Panthers.
I'm saying there are people with good reasons who are good people who want Confederate displays kept intact. The fact that there are also those who are racist who want the same thing is immaterial.

 

[candycorn]

You said it was state's rights....not me.
I asked if the feds were involved.

Then you called me a "dumb ass" and cited the following: "that is the reason those who are fighting for Confederate symbols are fighting for those symbols".

If there were feds involved...they were Trump's. Nobody knows what in the hell YOU are talking about when you say "state's rights".

Now, the Klansmen who were there with their little tiki torches, and their racist chants; your Messiah called them "very fine people". If you don't think that is racist....that is your opinion. The rest of the world knows differently.

Donald probably doesn't care as much as you guys do if the relics that celebrate slavery and insurrection are there or not. But he sure doesn't mind taking the votes of those guys marching around with their torches, chanting, mowing down others with their cars...etc

It's not racist because he was talking about those people fighting for the statues who were fighting for them because they believe in states rights. Not for the ones who belonged to the Klan. Not everyone protesting the destruction of the statues were KLAN MEMBERS! Can you understand that simple point?

Was the guy who mowed down the woman an innocent little protestor or a klansmen? I forget.
Were the guys chanting "Jews will not replace us" there for the statues of Jeb and Bobby Lee or klansmen? I forget.

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Its a still picture but those who are there to keep the momentos of slavery and insurrection sure don't seem to mind the skinhead standing one foot from them with his Nazi flag. Maybe he just got bad directions and was looking for another demonstration down the street?

Who the guy was that mowed down the woman is immaterial to whom Trump was speaking of when he said "there were good people on both sides."
Also immaterial is the fact that Klansmen chanted stupid shit in protest to the tearing down of the statue. It should not change the fact that there were State rights people also there fighting for keeping the statues intacted.

Should we ostracize the Democratic party and Hillary, because Hamas wanted them to win. Are we to characterize people by their followers now vs who they themselves in turn follow? Like Obama's mentor?
It doesn't matter who follows you, it matters who you follow.

And here we go with the "what about _______________________" in the defense of your messiah.

Never fails. Again, the states rights folks didn't seem to mind the skin head in the picture...did they?
Again, the states rights folks didn't seem to utter a peep at the tiki-torch-on-parade chanting "Jews will not replace us"...did they?

The "very fine" guy who organized the "states right" march said the following about the woman his attendee mowed down:

""Heather Heyer was a fat, disgusting Communist. Communists have killed 94 million. Looks like it was payback time."
He too blamed ambien for his comments according to Wikipedia. Looks like Roseanne may have been correct about it's side effect that makes you tweet dumb crap.

Here is mr. Very fine in his Trump hat.

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If you say there just happened to be a few klansmen there and, oh by golly, it was just some nice old professional people wanting to keep their quaint little statues up...you can. Nobody with two working brain cells believes you for a second but--whatever.

The fact of the matter is that klansmen, states right jingoistic idiots, anti-semites, nazi's.....the clown pictured above....Trump doesn't mind taking their votes and Trump supporters don't care how racist you are as long as you vote for him.

You probably have no problem with BLM, antifa, and the Black Panthers.
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Again with the false equivalence.

I'm saying there are people with good reasons who are good people who want Confederate displays kept intact. The fact that there are also those who are racist who want the same thing is immaterial.

The fact that the President doesn't differentiate between the two is not troubling at all..nah!!!!

You guys get more unbelievable by the day.

 

[Slyhunter]

You said it was state's rights....not me.
I asked if the feds were involved.

Then you called me a "dumb ass" and cited the following: "that is the reason those who are fighting for Confederate symbols are fighting for those symbols".

If there were feds involved...they were Trump's. Nobody knows what in the hell YOU are talking about when you say "state's rights".

Now, the Klansmen who were there with their little tiki torches, and their racist chants; your Messiah called them "very fine people". If you don't think that is racist....that is your opinion. The rest of the world knows differently.

Donald probably doesn't care as much as you guys do if the relics that celebrate slavery and insurrection are there or not. But he sure doesn't mind taking the votes of those guys marching around with their torches, chanting, mowing down others with their cars...etc

It's not racist because he was talking about those people fighting for the statues who were fighting for them because they believe in states rights. Not for the ones who belonged to the Klan. Not everyone protesting the destruction of the statues were KLAN MEMBERS! Can you understand that simple point?

Was the guy who mowed down the woman an innocent little protestor or a klansmen? I forget.
Were the guys chanting "Jews will not replace us" there for the statues of Jeb and Bobby Lee or klansmen? I forget.

View attachment 197923

Its a still picture but those who are there to keep the momentos of slavery and insurrection sure don't seem to mind the skinhead standing one foot from them with his Nazi flag. Maybe he just got bad directions and was looking for another demonstration down the street?

Who the guy was that mowed down the woman is immaterial to whom Trump was speaking of when he said "there were good people on both sides."
Also immaterial is the fact that Klansmen chanted stupid shit in protest to the tearing down of the statue. It should not change the fact that there were State rights people also there fighting for keeping the statues intacted.

Should we ostracize the Democratic party and Hillary, because Hamas wanted them to win. Are we to characterize people by their followers now vs who they themselves in turn follow? Like Obama's mentor?
It doesn't matter who follows you, it matters who you follow.

And here we go with the "what about _______________________" in the defense of your messiah.

Never fails. Again, the states rights folks didn't seem to mind the skin head in the picture...did they?
Again, the states rights folks didn't seem to utter a peep at the tiki-torch-on-parade chanting "Jews will not replace us"...did they?

The "very fine" guy who organized the "states right" march said the following about the woman his attendee mowed down:

""Heather Heyer was a fat, disgusting Communist. Communists have killed 94 million. Looks like it was payback time."
He too blamed ambien for his comments according to Wikipedia. Looks like Roseanne may have been correct about it's side effect that makes you tweet dumb crap.

Here is mr. Very fine in his Trump hat.

View attachment 197924


If you say there just happened to be a few klansmen there and, oh by golly, it was just some nice old professional people wanting to keep their quaint little statues up...you can. Nobody with two working brain cells believes you for a second but--whatever.

The fact of the matter is that klansmen, states right jingoistic idiots, anti-semites, nazi's.....the clown pictured above....Trump doesn't mind taking their votes and Trump supporters don't care how racist you are as long as you vote for him.

You probably have no problem with BLM, antifa, and the Black Panthers.

Again with the false equivalence.

I'm saying there are people with good reasons who are good people who want Confederate displays kept intact. The fact that there are also those who are racist who want the same thing is immaterial.

The fact that the President doesn't differentiate between the two is not troubling at all..nah!!!!
You guys get more unbelievable by the day.

Your bias is showing.

 

[BookShaka]

But there happened to be Klansmen there so they were who he was talking about, LOL. It’s so obvious... to brainwashed folks.

Wrong.

In this specific instance, he called BOTH groups fine people, including violent radical leftists who are no better than white supremacists. He was a fool for saying this bc it was taken out of context from the get-go. Funny how you emit part of the story. I’m not surprised though, not in the least. The “truth” to you is whatever fits your worldview. Anything else is disposable.

I win. You lose.

He called white supremicists “very fine people”.
More evidence abounds.

When you call Klansmen “Very fine people” you’re a racist. Sorry.

He didn't call Klansmen "very fine people" he called those who wanted to keep the Rebel flag and statues some of whom are very fine people. Some of whom were not Klansmen. You can't get a grip that there are people who believe in States rights who aren't Klansmen and that makes you biased.

State's rights? The feds were involved?

Those fighting for Confederate crap being displayed are fighting for states rights. Most of whom, don't care about the color of your skin, and aren't Klansmen.

 

[BookShaka]

You’re ignoring the fact that he said “both sides have very fine people.” Just fucking admit it already. Tell the whole truth or else you’re lying... you know, like Trump sometimes does. Lies aren’t okay and purposely omitting things from a story to spin it a certain way is definitely a dishonest tactic.

So far your responses to me have been devoid of anything to debate, consisting of “I’m right, you’re wrong and that’s the end of the story.” You say I ignore evidence that points to Trump’s racism, but you’ve ignored every point I’ve made. Unless I missed it, you STILL haven’t acknowledged the fact that no one gave a damn when Trump said Ted Cruz couldn’t become president bc he was born outside the US, NOR have you (likewise) admitted you were wrong for saying Obama was the only person Trump has questioned the birthplace of—you stated that as a fact, but it’s not a fact. It’s 100% false.

If you can’t admit it when you’re wrong, you’re doing yourself a disservice, and to reply to a different thing you said to me, I’ve never ignored Trump’s comments about the Mexican judge... please point out where I ignored that. In fact, I do understand why you and others consider that to be racist, so there you go.

I’ll give you one last chance to respond with something worth continuing the conversation.

He didn't call Klansmen "very fine people" he called those who wanted to keep the Rebel flag and statues some of whom are very fine people. Some of whom were not Klansmen. You can't get a grip that there are people who believe in States rights who aren't Klansmen and that makes you biased.

State's rights? The feds were involved?

Dumb ass that is the reason those who are fighting for Confederate symbols are fighting for those symbols. Not all of them are KlansMen. You need to take a step back and stay out of the conversation if you don't know wtf you are talking about.

Yo fuckface. So what you're saying is that the klansmen there were fighting Trump's white house?

I'm sorry you made absolutely no sense at all.
I'm saying that when Trump said Both sides had some "very find People" he was talking about both sides of the argument, the protesting, to have Confederate statues removed/destroyed.

What you are saying now made absolutely no sense at all.

You said it was state's rights....not me.
I asked if the feds were involved.

Then you called me a "dumb ass" and cited the following: "that is the reason those who are fighting for Confederate symbols are fighting for those symbols".

If there were feds involved...they were Trump's. Nobody knows what in the hell YOU are talking about when you say "state's rights".

Now, the Klansmen who were there with their little tiki torches, and their racist chants; your Messiah called them "very fine people". If you don't think that is racist....that is your opinion. The rest of the world knows differently.

Donald probably doesn't care as much as you guys do if the relics that celebrate slavery and insurrection are there or not. But he sure doesn't mind taking the votes of those guys marching around with their torches, chanting, mowing down others with their cars...etc

 

[BookShaka]

How many Trump supporters do you know personally?

I'm sorry you made absolutely no sense at all.
I'm saying that when Trump said Both sides had some "very find People" he was talking about both sides of the argument, the protesting, to have Confederate statues removed/destroyed.

What you are saying now made absolutely no sense at all.

You said it was state's rights....not me.
I asked if the feds were involved.

Then you called me a "dumb ass" and cited the following: "that is the reason those who are fighting for Confederate symbols are fighting for those symbols".

If there were feds involved...they were Trump's. Nobody knows what in the hell YOU are talking about when you say "state's rights".

Now, the Klansmen who were there with their little tiki torches, and their racist chants; your Messiah called them "very fine people". If you don't think that is racist....that is your opinion. The rest of the world knows differently.

Donald probably doesn't care as much as you guys do if the relics that celebrate slavery and insurrection are there or not. But he sure doesn't mind taking the votes of those guys marching around with their torches, chanting, mowing down others with their cars...etc

It's not racist because he was talking about those people fighting for the statues who were fighting for them because they believe in states rights. Not for the ones who belonged to the Klan. Not everyone protesting the destruction of the statues were KLAN MEMBERS! Can you understand that simple point?

Was the guy who mowed down the woman an innocent little protestor or a klansmen? I forget.
Were the guys chanting "Jews will not replace us" there for the statues of Jeb and Bobby Lee or klansmen? I forget.

View attachment 197923

Its a still picture but those who are there to keep the momentos of slavery and insurrection sure don't seem to mind the skinhead standing one foot from them with his Nazi flag. Maybe he just got bad directions and was looking for another demonstration down the street?

Who the guy was that mowed down the woman is immaterial to whom Trump was speaking of when he said "there were good people on both sides."
Also immaterial is the fact that Klansmen chanted stupid shit in protest to the tearing down of the statue. It should not change the fact that there were State rights people also there fighting for keeping the statues intacted.

Should we ostracize the Democratic party and Hillary, because Hamas wanted them to win. Are we to characterize people by their followers now vs who they themselves in turn follow? Like Obama's mentor?
It doesn't matter who follows you, it matters who you follow.

And here we go with the "what about _______________________" in the defense of your messiah.

Never fails. Again, the states rights folks didn't seem to mind the skin head in the picture...did they?
Again, the states rights folks didn't seem to utter a peep at the tiki-torch-on-parade chanting "Jews will not replace us"...did they?

The "very fine" guy who organized the "states right" march said the following about the woman his attendee mowed down:

""Heather Heyer was a fat, disgusting Communist. Communists have killed 94 million. Looks like it was payback time."
He too blamed ambien for his comments according to Wikipedia. Looks like Roseanne may have been correct about it's side effect that makes you tweet dumb crap.

Here is mr. Very fine in his Trump hat.

View attachment 197924


If you say there just happened to be a few klansmen there and, oh by golly, it was just some nice old professional people wanting to keep their quaint little statues up...you can. Nobody with two working brain cells believes you for a second but--whatever.

The fact of the matter is that klansmen, states right jingoistic idiots, anti-semites, nazi's.....the clown pictured above....Trump doesn't mind taking their votes and Trump supporters don't care how racist you are as long as you vote for him.

 

[candycorn]

But there happened to be Klansmen there so they were who he was talking about, LOL. It’s so obvious... to brainwashed folks.

Wrong.

In this specific instance, he called BOTH groups fine people, including violent radical leftists who are no better than white supremacists. He was a fool for saying this bc it was taken out of context from the get-go. Funny how you emit part of the story. I’m not surprised though, not in the least. The “truth” to you is whatever fits your worldview. Anything else is disposable.

I win. You lose.

When you call Klansmen “Very fine people” you’re a racist. Sorry.

He didn't call Klansmen "very fine people" he called those who wanted to keep the Rebel flag and statues some of whom are very fine people. Some of whom were not Klansmen. You can't get a grip that there are people who believe in States rights who aren't Klansmen and that makes you biased.

State's rights? The feds were involved?

Those fighting for Confederate crap being displayed are fighting for states rights. Most of whom, don't care about the color of your skin, and aren't Klansmen.

Okay, proof that wasn't who he was talking about? Door swings both ways.