How much art depicts Jesus as a blond, blue-eyed Caucasian when there is no doubt he was a Semite with typically black hair and dark complexion.
The same art that has him as Black, Asian and Hispanic.
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How much art depicts Jesus as a blond, blue-eyed Caucasian when there is no doubt he was a Semite with typically black hair and dark complexion.
One of them is famous in Greece because he's the one that went to Greece. May have been Paul. I forgot. I'll ask my brother. He's greek orthodox.Didn't Jesus' disciples high tail it out of there and spread the word to non Jews in Europe?
No not exactly. I guess it depends on which source you use. Some sources say they all went to different parts of the known world at the time. Other sources say they stayed in Judea. Tradition says this, the apocrypha says that. Acts says one thing, Paul says another. The truth is we really don't know what happened to them for certain, but at least some of them, Peter most notably, apparently continued to minister to Jews. It was Paul that ministered to Gentiles.
One of them is famous in Greece because he's the one that went to Greece. May have been Paul. I forgot. I'll ask my brother. He's greek orthodox.Didn't Jesus' disciples high tail it out of there and spread the word to non Jews in Europe?
No not exactly. I guess it depends on which source you use. Some sources say they all went to different parts of the known world at the time. Other sources say they stayed in Judea. Tradition says this, the apocrypha says that. Acts says one thing, Paul says another. The truth is we really don't know what happened to them for certain, but at least some of them, Peter most notably, apparently continued to minister to Jews. It was Paul that ministered to Gentiles.
Tonight they almost stoned all of jesus"' disciples to death but one Jewish elder saved them. Boy did the Jews miss their opportunity there.
Coming from an athiest I laugh because you christians can't even get the story straight.Well I finally got around to addressing this. Up until now I have been giving the benefit of the doubt and allowing for some artistic license. Last Sunday's episode was such a complete cluster fuck that it totally destroys the message of Paul. In the episode, Saul (Paul) was shown confronting Peter directly prior to his conversion and arguing about the verse in Deuteronomy about God cursing those who hang from a tree. In the show it is Peter that argues about the Deuteronomic verse.
This is so huge I cannot understate it, for that verse is critical to understanding the Pauline Doctrine of Justification Through Faith. That doctrine is what Christianity is based upon totally and completely. Paul is very specific in his letter to the Galatians that he did not meet Peter until three or four years after his conversion. This is critical because Paul is attempting to establish that his teachings come from Jesus Himself and not from Peter or the Apostles. In the TV depiction, the entire doctrine of Justification Through Faith comes from Peter and not Paul.
For those that do not know scripture, I cannot stress enough how big of a fuck up this is. This is an epic proportion, throw the whole faith over your shoulder, start from scratch cluster fuck. This is exactly what I have been concerned about. No problem in some artistic license but I don't think the producers even understand what they just did. That means the producers do not understand the scripture they are trying to depict. And viewers will think this is what scripture says...it is not. The last episode totally destroys the basis for Christian faith.
Terrible...absolutely terrible
Coming from an athiest I laugh because you christians can't even get the story straight.Well I finally got around to addressing this. Up until now I have been giving the benefit of the doubt and allowing for some artistic license. Last Sunday's episode was such a complete cluster fuck that it totally destroys the message of Paul. In the episode, Saul (Paul) was shown confronting Peter directly prior to his conversion and arguing about the verse in Deuteronomy about God cursing those who hang from a tree. In the show it is Peter that argues about the Deuteronomic verse.
This is so huge I cannot understate it, for that verse is critical to understanding the Pauline Doctrine of Justification Through Faith. That doctrine is what Christianity is based upon totally and completely. Paul is very specific in his letter to the Galatians that he did not meet Peter until three or four years after his conversion. This is critical because Paul is attempting to establish that his teachings come from Jesus Himself and not from Peter or the Apostles. In the TV depiction, the entire doctrine of Justification Through Faith comes from Peter and not Paul.
For those that do not know scripture, I cannot stress enough how big of a fuck up this is. This is an epic proportion, throw the whole faith over your shoulder, start from scratch cluster fuck. This is exactly what I have been concerned about. No problem in some artistic license but I don't think the producers even understand what they just did. That means the producers do not understand the scripture they are trying to depict. And viewers will think this is what scripture says...it is not. The last episode totally destroys the basis for Christian faith.
Terrible...absolutely terrible
As a rational person I can only toss the entire story out and demand we start over. Sorry god but the message got lost. Maybe you should have waited until we started writing and recording history before you sent your son. Oh yea, they were recording history, only none of Jesus' 12 thought to write what Jesus said down. In fact the bibles may have only been written hundred of years after the fact.
Bottom line is I can't believe the bible or christians. God should send another son. Go cure cancer in the hospitals and I promise this time we won't crucify you.
Only christian scholars but that's an oxymoron. If they are putting their faith in hearsay and stories from a church you can hardly say any of them have hard evidence of this. Did you know not one non christian wrote about Jesus after seeing him? Every non christian who wrote about Jesus did it from hearsay second or 3rd hand accounts. Someone told jesephus about Jesus and he wrote about it. He was not a witness.Coming from an athiest I laugh because you christians can't even get the story straight.Well I finally got around to addressing this. Up until now I have been giving the benefit of the doubt and allowing for some artistic license. Last Sunday's episode was such a complete cluster fuck that it totally destroys the message of Paul. In the episode, Saul (Paul) was shown confronting Peter directly prior to his conversion and arguing about the verse in Deuteronomy about God cursing those who hang from a tree. In the show it is Peter that argues about the Deuteronomic verse.
This is so huge I cannot understate it, for that verse is critical to understanding the Pauline Doctrine of Justification Through Faith. That doctrine is what Christianity is based upon totally and completely. Paul is very specific in his letter to the Galatians that he did not meet Peter until three or four years after his conversion. This is critical because Paul is attempting to establish that his teachings come from Jesus Himself and not from Peter or the Apostles. In the TV depiction, the entire doctrine of Justification Through Faith comes from Peter and not Paul.
For those that do not know scripture, I cannot stress enough how big of a fuck up this is. This is an epic proportion, throw the whole faith over your shoulder, start from scratch cluster fuck. This is exactly what I have been concerned about. No problem in some artistic license but I don't think the producers even understand what they just did. That means the producers do not understand the scripture they are trying to depict. And viewers will think this is what scripture says...it is not. The last episode totally destroys the basis for Christian faith.
Terrible...absolutely terrible
As a rational person I can only toss the entire story out and demand we start over. Sorry god but the message got lost. Maybe you should have waited until we started writing and recording history before you sent your son. Oh yea, they were recording history, only none of Jesus' 12 thought to write what Jesus said down. In fact the bibles may have only been written hundred of years after the fact.
Bottom line is I can't believe the bible or christians. God should send another son. Go cure cancer in the hospitals and I promise this time we won't crucify you.
I am not sure where you are getting the hundreds of years thing. You mentioned that before on another thread and I never got around to responding to it. The books of the Bible were not compiled together for hundreds of years after Jesus' death but they existed as individual books far earlier. Most scholars date the latest book, Revelation, at 120 CE or earlier. We know this for several reasons. One is the Temple of Jerusalem. Books that refer to the temple as still existing were probably written prior to 70 CE before the Temple was destroyed. Also the early Church fathers such as Origen and Polycarp refer to certain books in their writings. So if you have a guy writing a commentary on the Gospel of Matthew in 165 CE, for example, then the book was clearly in existence and circulation prior to that. There may be some scholars that argue for far later dates but they would be in the minority...the vast minority actually.
Only christian scholars but that's an oxymoron.
If they are putting their faith in hearsay and stories from a church you can hardly say any of them have hard evidence of this. Did you know not one non christian wrote about Jesus after seeing him? Every non christian who wrote about Jesus did it from hearsay second or 3rd hand accounts. Someone told jesephus about Jesus and he wrote about it. He was not a witness.
Other things from this time survive. Even older. Yet nothing from Jesus survives except for a shroud which by the way my brother is going to see.
If you want to believe it all that's cool. I'm just too smart for that. And that's OK because no god said believe christianity or go to hell. That is a lie written by men hundreds of years after Jesus died. When the religion was just a cult.
Notice how god demonstrates his existence to the people? Apparently god has interacted with humans several times in history but we're the unlucky ones in the dice roll of time. Why has he gone in hiding?Well I finally got around to addressing this. Up until now I have been giving the benefit of the doubt and allowing for some artistic license. Last Sunday's episode was such a complete cluster fuck that it totally destroys the message of Paul. In the episode, Saul (Paul) was shown confronting Peter directly prior to his conversion and arguing about the verse in Deuteronomy about God cursing those who hang from a tree. In the show it is Peter that argues about the Deuteronomic verse.
This is so huge I cannot understate it, for that verse is critical to understanding the Pauline Doctrine of Justification Through Faith. That doctrine is what Christianity is based upon totally and completely. Paul is very specific in his letter to the Galatians that he did not meet Peter until three or four years after his conversion. This is critical because Paul is attempting to establish that his teachings come from Jesus Himself and not from Peter or the Apostles. In the TV depiction, the entire doctrine of Justification Through Faith comes from Peter and not Paul.
For those that do not know scripture, I cannot stress enough how big of a fuck up this is. This is an epic proportion, throw the whole faith over your shoulder, start from scratch cluster fuck. This is exactly what I have been concerned about. No problem in some artistic license but I don't think the producers even understand what they just did. That means the producers do not understand the scripture they are trying to depict. And viewers will think this is what scripture says...it is not. The last episode totally destroys the basis for Christian faith.
Terrible...absolutely terrible
God blinded Saul then let some guy heal him.