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what leads anyone to believe the same group of idiots who dont know the difference between debt and deficit has a freakin' clue about trade deficits ?
levy a tariff on your biggest ally in the world - STUPID MF'R ... STUPID.
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Why don't you want workers to have a living wage ?
SEE ^^^^^^^
I rest my case ... STUPID.
No you are the stupid fuck..
Why are you against a living wage for American workers? Once again you want cheap shit from China and fuck American made ones.
Less overall production and more lost jobs. Prices all around go up = less demand = less production. Wealth destruction./----/ From your link:Earlier this year Trump announced a big ol' MAGA tariff on solar panels imported from China. This was great news for the U.S. solar industry, who later announced $1 billion in investment and job hires! However, this was bad news for the U.S. solar industry, who later announced $2.5 billion in investment and jobs losses. Thank you for joining me, in today's brief lesson on tariffs.
Billions in U.S. solar projects shelved after Trump panel tariff
‘A LOT OF ROBOTS’
Trump’s tariff has boosted the domestic manufacturing sector as intended, which over time could significantly raise U.S. panel production and reduce prices.
Panel manufacturers First Solar (FSLR.O) and JinkoSolar (JKS.N), for example, have announced plans to spend $800 million on projects to increase panel construction in the United States since the tariff, creating about 700 new jobs in Ohio and Florida. Just last week, Korea’s Hanwha Q CELLS (HQCL.O) joined them, saying it will open a solar module factory in Georgia next year, though it did not detail job creation.
SunPower Corp, meanwhile, purchased U.S. manufacturer SolarWorld’s Oregon factory after the tariff was announced, saving that facility’s 280 jobs. The company said it plans to hire more people at the plant to expand operations, without specifying how many.
Canada has tariffs on us. They only got rid of some after NAFTA
Doesnt china have a 100% tariff on our poultry?
Hek, we have 12,000 tariffs right now. Why is it all of a sudden so bad?
what leads anyone to believe the same group of idiots who dont know the difference between debt and deficit has a freakin' clue about trade deficits ?
levy a tariff on your biggest ally in the world - STUPID MF'R ... STUPID.
END OF STORY
Why don't you want workers to have a living wage ?
SEE ^^^^^^^
I rest my case ... STUPID.
No you are the stupid fuck..
Why are you against a living wage for American workers? Once again you want cheap shit from China and fuck American made ones.
COORS MAKES 13 MILLION ALUMINUM CANS a day - that tariff increases the cost of overhead ... two things happen to offset the incerase
Coors is loyal to shareholders, not employees.
buy a cheaper product
or
cut workers wages
trump is a fucking idiot just like his collective of drones that kiss his ass.
Those nations hurt themselves with their tariffs far more than America. Consider the EU, that has almost double the population of the U.S. but cannot match its GDP. Same with Canada, with a worse GDP per capita. Then China, with a far worse GDP per capita and hundreds of millions living in conditions that the average American would consider atrocious.You should contact Canada, EU and China than and tell the sob's to decrease their tariffs, we both agree they are bad!
You need to realize that you're calling for China stop giving us such great deals on a product that employs thousands in many businesses. That's Trump's demand here. There are no tariffs against American manufactured solar panels in China. The Chinese government subsidizes solar panel makers so they can lower prices. Chinese taxpayers are literally paying for a portion of your new solar panels.This is so silly and sad. Wanna try to sell U.S.-made solar panels and technology in China? Guess what you'll pay to do so? You see, why is it that it's bad for us to do the same thing that China and many other nations have been doing for decades, namely, protecting their industries with tariffs?
It will produce less because the high price will lower the demand. The price will go up because Americans don't like to live China's conditions, and command a higher salary. The solar industry then sinks, and possibly disappears because it's become that much harder to compete with other energy sources.Now, if the free traders don't succeed in overturning this tariff, the U.S. market will adjust to the tariff rates and our solar-panel industry will be just fine.
You traded for a fraction of what's available now. Access to the rest of the world was difficult back then, and less products existed. Tariffs couldn't do that much harm because there wasn't that much competition. We did not become a superpower because of tariffs from the 19th and early 20th century.Here's a lesson in tariffs for you: We became an industrial and economic powerhouse behind the protection of high tariffs for decades. In fact, from the 1850s until the 1960s, the Republican Party was the champion of protective tariffs. Such notable Republicans as Abrham Lincoln, Ulysses Grant, Rutherford B. Hayes, William Howard Taft, Calvin Coolidge, and Robert Taft ("Mr. Republican" in the 1940s and 50s) supported protective tariffs.
Less workers and less money than beforeLess overall production and more lost jobs. Prices all around go up = less demand = less production. Wealth destruction./----/ From your link:Earlier this year Trump announced a big ol' MAGA tariff on solar panels imported from China. This was great news for the U.S. solar industry, who later announced $1 billion in investment and job hires! However, this was bad news for the U.S. solar industry, who later announced $2.5 billion in investment and jobs losses. Thank you for joining me, in today's brief lesson on tariffs.
Billions in U.S. solar projects shelved after Trump panel tariff
‘A LOT OF ROBOTS’
Trump’s tariff has boosted the domestic manufacturing sector as intended, which over time could significantly raise U.S. panel production and reduce prices.
Panel manufacturers First Solar (FSLR.O) and JinkoSolar (JKS.N), for example, have announced plans to spend $800 million on projects to increase panel construction in the United States since the tariff, creating about 700 new jobs in Ohio and Florida. Just last week, Korea’s Hanwha Q CELLS (HQCL.O) joined them, saying it will open a solar module factory in Georgia next year, though it did not detail job creation.
SunPower Corp, meanwhile, purchased U.S. manufacturer SolarWorld’s Oregon factory after the tariff was announced, saving that facility’s 280 jobs. The company said it plans to hire more people at the plant to expand operations, without specifying how many.
Yea but those select few workers bank money
No?
what leads anyone to believe the same group of idiots who dont know the difference between debt and deficit has a freakin' clue about trade deficits ?
levy a tariff on your biggest ally in the world - STUPID MF'R ... STUPID.
END OF STORY
Why don't you want workers to have a living wage ?
SEE ^^^^^^^
I rest my case ... STUPID.
No you are the stupid fuck..
Why are you against a living wage for American workers? Once again you want cheap shit from China and fuck American made ones.
COORS MAKES 13 MILLION ALUMINUM CANS a day - that tariff increases the cost of overhead ... two things happen to offset the incerase
Coors is loyal to shareholders, not employees.
buy a cheaper product
or
cut workers wages
trump is a fucking idiot just like his collective of drones that kiss his ass.
This is what I don't get about you guys, tariffs and a higher minimum wage is basically the same thing to me, a tax that's all it is..with tariffs a select few products cost me more, with minimum wage everything cost me a little bit more and pennies add up to dollars.
Can someone start by telling me how it is good for America to have huge trade deficits? Why is that desirable to the left?
They increase tariffs because that's how trade wars work. You make something more expensive for me (and, stupidly, for yourself as well), so I make something more expensive for you. We all lose. Chinese taxpayers used to pay for part of your new solar panel, but now if you want that solar panel the U.S. government is forcing to pay a hefty tax on it or to buy more expensive ones from the U.S. You'll have to let several employees go, cancel some projects, work with lesser profits, and be less competitive against fossil fuels, but oh well. All this makes you want a drink. At the store, you realize the price of your favorite beer is a higher than before. Wasn't there something in the news about aluminum tariffs?Those nations hurt themselves with their tariffs far more than America. Consider the EU, that has almost double the population of the U.S. but cannot match its GDP. Same with Canada, with a worse GDP per capita. Then China, with a far worse GDP per capita and hundreds of millions living in conditions that the average American would consider atrocious.You should contact Canada, EU and China than and tell the sob's to decrease their tariffs, we both agree they are bad!
Well, then why are they increasing tariffs now in retaliation?
They cannot compete with America in and apples to apples comparison, they have to cheat, lie, misrepresent, act covertly and quietly against you and use the media and global socialist influence to convince America that these countries are your "allies".
I really want someone to define ally for me, I can tell you I can define enemy very easily.
^ says that while living in the wealthiest nation in the entire history of mankindCan someone start by telling me how it is good for America to have huge trade deficits? Why is that desirable to the left?
Because it makes us poor, and the left want's us poor.
It's always been bad. More sure doesn't make it better.Canada has tariffs on us. They only got rid of some after NAFTA
Doesnt china have a 100% tariff on our poultry?
Hek, we have 12,000 tariffs right now. Why is it all of a sudden so bad?
^ says that while living in the wealthiest nation in the entire history of mankindCan someone start by telling me how it is good for America to have huge trade deficits? Why is that desirable to the left?
Because it makes us poor, and the left want's us poor.
Why don't you want workers to have a living wage ?
SEE ^^^^^^^
I rest my case ... STUPID.
No you are the stupid fuck..
Why are you against a living wage for American workers? Once again you want cheap shit from China and fuck American made ones.
COORS MAKES 13 MILLION ALUMINUM CANS a day - that tariff increases the cost of overhead ... two things happen to offset the incerase
Coors is loyal to shareholders, not employees.
buy a cheaper product
or
cut workers wages
trump is a fucking idiot just like his collective of drones that kiss his ass.
This is what I don't get about you guys, tariffs and a higher minimum wage is basically the same thing to me, a tax that's all it is..with tariffs a select few products cost me more, with minimum wage everything cost me a little bit more and pennies add up to dollars.
you want a min wage thread - start one
Tumps tariffs are as F'd up as he is
take a wild guess how much steel US auto manufacturers use in one day - now tell everyone how they make up that tariff increase
but you cant because youre an idiot.
You can't attack progressives while being one yourself. Tariffs are not a capitalist concept. The rest of your post is beyond garbage. How did you become a mod?^ says that while living in the wealthiest nation in the entire history of mankindCan someone start by telling me how it is good for America to have huge trade deficits? Why is that desirable to the left?
Because it makes us poor, and the left want's us poor.
Indeed. Thanks to the capitalist system. For all of its faults, and there are many, the capitalist system generates more wealth, for more people, than any other system the world has ever seen. That's why progressives hate it. People who aren't poor, can't be herded like sheep. Progressives require sheep.
Can someone start by telling me how it is good for America to have huge trade deficits? Why is that desirable to the left?
Because it makes us poor, and the left want's us poor.
Can someone start by telling me how it is good for America to have huge trade deficits? Why is that desirable to the left?
Because it makes us poor, and the left want's us poor.
How does it make us poor?
Please explain how me buying a car from Korea instead of Detroit makes “us” poor?
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You can't attack progressives while being one yourself. Tariffs are not a capitalist concept. The rest of your post is beyond garbage. How did you become a mod?^ says that while living in the wealthiest nation in the entire history of mankindCan someone start by telling me how it is good for America to have huge trade deficits? Why is that desirable to the left?
Because it makes us poor, and the left want's us poor.
Indeed. Thanks to the capitalist system. For all of its faults, and there are many, the capitalist system generates more wealth, for more people, than any other system the world has ever seen. That's why progressives hate it. People who aren't poor, can't be herded like sheep. Progressives require sheep.
They increase tariffs because that's how trade wars work. You make something more expensive for me (and, stupidly, for yourself as well), so I make something more expensive for you. We all lose. Chinese taxpayers used to pay for part of your new solar panel, but now if you want that solar panel the U.S. government is forcing to pay a hefty tax on it or to buy more expensive ones from the U.S. You'll have to let several employees go, cancel some projects, work with lesser profits, and be less competitive against fossil fuels, but oh well. All this makes you want a drink. At the store, you realize the price of your favorite beer is a higher than before. Wasn't there something in the news about aluminum tariffs?Those nations hurt themselves with their tariffs far more than America. Consider the EU, that has almost double the population of the U.S. but cannot match its GDP. Same with Canada, with a worse GDP per capita. Then China, with a far worse GDP per capita and hundreds of millions living in conditions that the average American would consider atrocious.You should contact Canada, EU and China than and tell the sob's to decrease their tariffs, we both agree they are bad!
Well, then why are they increasing tariffs now in retaliation?
They cannot compete with America in and apples to apples comparison, they have to cheat, lie, misrepresent, act covertly and quietly against you and use the media and global socialist influence to convince America that these countries are your "allies".
I really want someone to define ally for me, I can tell you I can define enemy very easily.
That sounds like the effects of the $15.00 an hour minimum but ewe championed that right?They increase tariffs because that's how trade wars work. You make something more expensive for me (and, stupidly, for yourself as well), so I make something more expensive for you. We all lose. Chinese taxpayers used to pay for part of your new solar panel, but now if you want that solar panel the U.S. government is forcing to pay a hefty tax on it or to buy more expensive ones from the U.S. You'll have to let several employees go, cancel some projects, work with lesser profits, and be less competitive against fossil fuels, but oh well. All this makes you want a drink. At the store, you realize the price of your favorite beer is a higher than before. Wasn't there something in the news about aluminum tariffs?Those nations hurt themselves with their tariffs far more than America. Consider the EU, that has almost double the population of the U.S. but cannot match its GDP. Same with Canada, with a worse GDP per capita. Then China, with a far worse GDP per capita and hundreds of millions living in conditions that the average American would consider atrocious.You should contact Canada, EU and China than and tell the sob's to decrease their tariffs, we both agree they are bad!
Well, then why are they increasing tariffs now in retaliation?
They cannot compete with America in and apples to apples comparison, they have to cheat, lie, misrepresent, act covertly and quietly against you and use the media and global socialist influence to convince America that these countries are your "allies".
I really want someone to define ally for me, I can tell you I can define enemy very easily.
