A 7-Day Workweek Could Soon Be Legal in Wisconsin

[dblack]

There is no appeal to ignorance of the law.

Ignorance of the law can be quite appealing. Most laws are tedious and annoying. Ignoring them can be positively liberating. For a time.

 

[OKTexas]

And what do you propose to do with the ones that won't, support them indefinitely?

You make it seem like Capitalism doesn't merely require capital to work; why does the right confuse a social work ethic with a capital work ethic while complaining about socialism?

Example please.

Unemployment compensation on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States could solve simple poverty and a natural rate of unemployment; by abolishing the poverty usually associated with a lack of income.

What private sector would be worse off, if the People can obtain a form of minimum wage on an at-will basis that clears our poverty guidelines simply for being unemployed on that same, at-will basis in our at-will employment States.

Why are you always trying to use word games? What the fuck is unemployment on an at-will basis, sit on you ass and expect someone to pay you for it. You might want to get a freaking reality check.

I believe in capitalism, don't you?

Why does the right prefer to bear false witness to our own laws and expect to be taken seriously, with moral seriousness?

There is no appeal to ignorance of the law.

Why do you believe someone on unemployment compensation for being unemployed on an at-will basis will just, sit on their ass?

What law, you got a link?

At-will means by choice, if a person choses to be unemployed they should get nothing. If they are fired for cause, they should get nothing. If they are laid off due to no fault of their own, then unemployment compensation is justified for a short period of time.

 

[danielpalos]

There is no appeal to ignorance of the law.

Ignorance of the law can be quite appealing. Most laws are tedious and annoying. Ignoring them can be positively liberating. For a time.

Sure; until you have to "muster" before the Judicature to "splain" yourself.

 

[danielpalos]

You make it seem like Capitalism doesn't merely require capital to work; why does the right confuse a social work ethic with a capital work ethic while complaining about socialism?

Example please.

Unemployment compensation on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States could solve simple poverty and a natural rate of unemployment; by abolishing the poverty usually associated with a lack of income.

What private sector would be worse off, if the People can obtain a form of minimum wage on an at-will basis that clears our poverty guidelines simply for being unemployed on that same, at-will basis in our at-will employment States.

Why are you always trying to use word games? What the fuck is unemployment on an at-will basis, sit on you ass and expect someone to pay you for it. You might want to get a freaking reality check.

I believe in capitalism, don't you?

Why does the right prefer to bear false witness to our own laws and expect to be taken seriously, with moral seriousness?

There is no appeal to ignorance of the law.

Why do you believe someone on unemployment compensation for being unemployed on an at-will basis will just, sit on their ass?

What law, you got a link?

At-will means by choice, if a person choses to be unemployed they should get nothing. If they are fired for cause, they should get nothing. If they are laid off due to no fault of their own, then unemployment compensation is justified for a short period of time.

A federal Doctrine in American law and State laws regarding the concept of employment at will.

At-will employment is generally described as follows: "any hiring is presumed to be 'at will'; that is, the employer is free to discharge individuals 'for good cause, or bad cause, or no cause at all,' and the employee is equally free to quit, strike, or otherwise cease work."[5] Source: At-will employment - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

California Labor Code 2922: An employment, having no specified term, may be terminated at the will of either party on notice to the other. Employment for a specified term means an employment for a period greater than one month.

Do Only capitalists of wealth have equal protection of the law under our form of Capitalism?

It may give the impression that the least wealthy are worth-less under our form of Capitalism.

 

[OKTexas]

Example please.

Unemployment compensation on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States could solve simple poverty and a natural rate of unemployment; by abolishing the poverty usually associated with a lack of income.

What private sector would be worse off, if the People can obtain a form of minimum wage on an at-will basis that clears our poverty guidelines simply for being unemployed on that same, at-will basis in our at-will employment States.

Why are you always trying to use word games? What the fuck is unemployment on an at-will basis, sit on you ass and expect someone to pay you for it. You might want to get a freaking reality check.

I believe in capitalism, don't you?

Why does the right prefer to bear false witness to our own laws and expect to be taken seriously, with moral seriousness?

There is no appeal to ignorance of the law.

Why do you believe someone on unemployment compensation for being unemployed on an at-will basis will just, sit on their ass?

What law, you got a link?

At-will means by choice, if a person choses to be unemployed they should get nothing. If they are fired for cause, they should get nothing. If they are laid off due to no fault of their own, then unemployment compensation is justified for a short period of time.

A federal Doctrine in American law and State laws regarding the concept of employment at will.

At-will employment is generally described as follows: "any hiring is presumed to be 'at will'; that is, the employer is free to discharge individuals 'for good cause, or bad cause, or no cause at all,' and the employee is equally free to quit, strike, or otherwise cease work."[5] Source: At-will employment - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

California Labor Code 2922: An employment, having no specified term, may be terminated at the will of either party on notice to the other. Employment for a specified term means an employment for a period greater than one month.

Do Only capitalists of wealth have equal protection of the law under our form of Capitalism?

It may give the impression that the least wealthy are worth-less under our form of Capitalism.

Why do you refuse to understand that both parties have equal power to terminate the agreement?

 

[danielpalos]

Unemployment compensation on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States could solve simple poverty and a natural rate of unemployment; by abolishing the poverty usually associated with a lack of income.

What private sector would be worse off, if the People can obtain a form of minimum wage on an at-will basis that clears our poverty guidelines simply for being unemployed on that same, at-will basis in our at-will employment States.

Why are you always trying to use word games? What the fuck is unemployment on an at-will basis, sit on you ass and expect someone to pay you for it. You might want to get a freaking reality check.

I believe in capitalism, don't you?

Why does the right prefer to bear false witness to our own laws and expect to be taken seriously, with moral seriousness?

There is no appeal to ignorance of the law.

Why do you believe someone on unemployment compensation for being unemployed on an at-will basis will just, sit on their ass?

What law, you got a link?

At-will means by choice, if a person choses to be unemployed they should get nothing. If they are fired for cause, they should get nothing. If they are laid off due to no fault of their own, then unemployment compensation is justified for a short period of time.

A federal Doctrine in American law and State laws regarding the concept of employment at will.

At-will employment is generally described as follows: "any hiring is presumed to be 'at will'; that is, the employer is free to discharge individuals 'for good cause, or bad cause, or no cause at all,' and the employee is equally free to quit, strike, or otherwise cease work."[5] Source: At-will employment - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

California Labor Code 2922: An employment, having no specified term, may be terminated at the will of either party on notice to the other. Employment for a specified term means an employment for a period greater than one month.

Do Only capitalists of wealth have equal protection of the law under our form of Capitalism?

It may give the impression that the least wealthy are worth-less under our form of Capitalism.

Why do you refuse to understand that both parties have equal power to terminate the agreement?

Because you are missing the point about equality before the law.

Why do Only capitalists of wealth have full recourse to the legal concept of employment at will, but not the least wealthy regarding unemployment compensation merely for exercising that form of equality in terminating the agreement on an at-will basis and collect unemployment on that same, at-will basis in an at-will employment State.

Do capitalists of wealth find it to difficult to have an employment ethic to complement a work ethic; even in Right to Work States.

 

[OKTexas]

Why are you always trying to use word games? What the fuck is unemployment on an at-will basis, sit on you ass and expect someone to pay you for it. You might want to get a freaking reality check.

I believe in capitalism, don't you?

Why does the right prefer to bear false witness to our own laws and expect to be taken seriously, with moral seriousness?

There is no appeal to ignorance of the law.

Why do you believe someone on unemployment compensation for being unemployed on an at-will basis will just, sit on their ass?

What law, you got a link?

At-will means by choice, if a person choses to be unemployed they should get nothing. If they are fired for cause, they should get nothing. If they are laid off due to no fault of their own, then unemployment compensation is justified for a short period of time.

A federal Doctrine in American law and State laws regarding the concept of employment at will.

At-will employment is generally described as follows: "any hiring is presumed to be 'at will'; that is, the employer is free to discharge individuals 'for good cause, or bad cause, or no cause at all,' and the employee is equally free to quit, strike, or otherwise cease work."[5] Source: At-will employment - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

California Labor Code 2922: An employment, having no specified term, may be terminated at the will of either party on notice to the other. Employment for a specified term means an employment for a period greater than one month.

Do Only capitalists of wealth have equal protection of the law under our form of Capitalism?

It may give the impression that the least wealthy are worth-less under our form of Capitalism.

Why do you refuse to understand that both parties have equal power to terminate the agreement?

Because you are missing the point about equality before the law.

Why do Only capitalists of wealth have full recourse to the legal concept of employment at will, but not the least wealthy regarding unemployment compensation merely for exercising that form of equality in terminating the agreement on an at-will basis and collect unemployment on that same, at-will basis in an at-will employment State.

Do capitalists of wealth find it to difficult to have an employment ethic to complement a work ethic; even in Right to Work States.

Fuck off child, I'm tired of your word games. No need to reply, I won't.

 

[Disir]

And what do you propose to do with the ones that won't, support them indefinitely?

How many are begging?
The Nursing Shortage Myth The Health Care Blog

As The World Churns The Driver Shortage Myth TruckingTruth TruckingTruth Blog

The reality is that there is no shortage. Just don't want to pay.

You are always going to find people that really aren't worth a damn and for whatever reason.

Blogs, seriously:

employment ads for nurses - Bing

employment ads for truck drivers - Bing

I worked in the trucking industry before I retired, I'm aware of the turnover rates. I also know there are many driving jobs that are local type delivery, ranging from auto parts stores to gas and propane delivery that pay a decent wage.

I also have direct knowledge that hospitals all over the country are having to hire contract nurses usually from out of state to fill positions.

So feel free to believe your blogs, I'll go with what I know as facts.

You have a few scattered areas with a shortage but it isn't nationwide. It's like the BS with the STEM shortage. There is none. It's about driving down wages. You guys can BS all you want but the reality is that these people don't want to pay.

You statement is contrary to the laws of economics, shortages, even perceived shortages drive up costs, not down.

That is a rather odd claim. Disir, how does faking shortages drive prices down?

Creates a surplus of nurses and there is absolutely nothing odd about it. It is exactly like the myth of the STEM shortage.

 

[Disir]

Some will but many won't.

And what do you propose to do with the ones that won't, support them indefinitely?

How many are begging?
The Nursing Shortage Myth The Health Care Blog

As The World Churns The Driver Shortage Myth TruckingTruth TruckingTruth Blog

The reality is that there is no shortage. Just don't want to pay.

You are always going to find people that really aren't worth a damn and for whatever reason.

Blogs, seriously:

employment ads for nurses - Bing

employment ads for truck drivers - Bing

I worked in the trucking industry before I retired, I'm aware of the turnover rates. I also know there are many driving jobs that are local type delivery, ranging from auto parts stores to gas and propane delivery that pay a decent wage.

I also have direct knowledge that hospitals all over the country are having to hire contract nurses usually from out of state to fill positions.

So feel free to believe your blogs, I'll go with what I know as facts.

You have a few scattered areas with a shortage but it isn't nationwide. It's like the BS with the STEM shortage. There is none. It's about driving down wages. You guys can BS all you want but the reality is that these people don't want to pay.

You statement is contrary to the laws of economics, shortages, even perceived shortages drive up costs, not down.

Economics is the softest science there is. It's all theory.

 

[Papageorgio]

A process to challenge what, you have yet to define what "it" is. Come on is "it" $1.00 or $500.00 an hour? You freaking commies like to throw out the abstract terms like "living wage" and "fair share" but you refuse to tie them to anything in reality. Care to try again?

You dork. It's a legal term that has been used for over 100 years in Wisconsin and works so that it can be adjusted over time. It absolutely should be based on the job. That said, it needs to be high enough to keep people off of public aid.

Right, because companies will pay people more than they are worth because you want them to. I wouldn't take telemarketing calls, seriously, you believe politicians, you have zero ability to detect someone lying to you

Companies will pay the least that they can get away with.

Employees will make the most they can get away with

You bored, Kaz?

Sounds like he is being honest.

 

[Disir]

You dork. It's a legal term that has been used for over 100 years in Wisconsin and works so that it can be adjusted over time. It absolutely should be based on the job. That said, it needs to be high enough to keep people off of public aid.

Right, because companies will pay people more than they are worth because you want them to. I wouldn't take telemarketing calls, seriously, you believe politicians, you have zero ability to detect someone lying to you

Companies will pay the least that they can get away with.

Employees will make the most they can get away with

You bored, Kaz?

Sounds like he is being honest.

Kaz isn't honest. He simply gets bored.

 

[dblack]

How many are begging?
The Nursing Shortage Myth The Health Care Blog

As The World Churns The Driver Shortage Myth TruckingTruth TruckingTruth Blog

The reality is that there is no shortage. Just don't want to pay.

You are always going to find people that really aren't worth a damn and for whatever reason.

Blogs, seriously:

employment ads for nurses - Bing

employment ads for truck drivers - Bing

I worked in the trucking industry before I retired, I'm aware of the turnover rates. I also know there are many driving jobs that are local type delivery, ranging from auto parts stores to gas and propane delivery that pay a decent wage.

I also have direct knowledge that hospitals all over the country are having to hire contract nurses usually from out of state to fill positions.

So feel free to believe your blogs, I'll go with what I know as facts.

You have a few scattered areas with a shortage but it isn't nationwide. It's like the BS with the STEM shortage. There is none. It's about driving down wages. You guys can BS all you want but the reality is that these people don't want to pay.

You statement is contrary to the laws of economics, shortages, even perceived shortages drive up costs, not down.

That is a rather odd claim. Disir, how does faking shortages drive prices down?

Creates a surplus of nurses and there is absolutely nothing odd about it. It is exactly like the myth of the STEM shortage.

That's pretty cool. So, whenever we want something to cost less, we can pretend there's a shortage and "create" a surplus! Then step 2. ? Then, Profit!

 

[rdean]

If that's the best crap that the GOP can come up with----they are beyond worthless. Nothing says love the working man with crap like this.

Why do you hate working people? Sometimes it's nice to get in a few extra hours to buy the finer things in life.

Or a few extra days? If you could get rid of health care and vacation benefits, it would be perfect.

 

[OKTexas]

How many are begging?
The Nursing Shortage Myth The Health Care Blog

As The World Churns The Driver Shortage Myth TruckingTruth TruckingTruth Blog

The reality is that there is no shortage. Just don't want to pay.

You are always going to find people that really aren't worth a damn and for whatever reason.

Blogs, seriously:

employment ads for nurses - Bing

employment ads for truck drivers - Bing

I worked in the trucking industry before I retired, I'm aware of the turnover rates. I also know there are many driving jobs that are local type delivery, ranging from auto parts stores to gas and propane delivery that pay a decent wage.

I also have direct knowledge that hospitals all over the country are having to hire contract nurses usually from out of state to fill positions.

So feel free to believe your blogs, I'll go with what I know as facts.

You have a few scattered areas with a shortage but it isn't nationwide. It's like the BS with the STEM shortage. There is none. It's about driving down wages. You guys can BS all you want but the reality is that these people don't want to pay.

You statement is contrary to the laws of economics, shortages, even perceived shortages drive up costs, not down.

That is a rather odd claim. Disir, how does faking shortages drive prices down?

Creates a surplus of nurses and there is absolutely nothing odd about it. It is exactly like the myth of the STEM shortage.

Ok, have it your way, I'm done.

 

[danielpalos]

I believe in capitalism, don't you?

Why does the right prefer to bear false witness to our own laws and expect to be taken seriously, with moral seriousness?

There is no appeal to ignorance of the law.

Why do you believe someone on unemployment compensation for being unemployed on an at-will basis will just, sit on their ass?

What law, you got a link?

At-will means by choice, if a person choses to be unemployed they should get nothing. If they are fired for cause, they should get nothing. If they are laid off due to no fault of their own, then unemployment compensation is justified for a short period of time.

A federal Doctrine in American law and State laws regarding the concept of employment at will.

At-will employment is generally described as follows: "any hiring is presumed to be 'at will'; that is, the employer is free to discharge individuals 'for good cause, or bad cause, or no cause at all,' and the employee is equally free to quit, strike, or otherwise cease work."[5] Source: At-will employment - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

California Labor Code 2922: An employment, having no specified term, may be terminated at the will of either party on notice to the other. Employment for a specified term means an employment for a period greater than one month.

Do Only capitalists of wealth have equal protection of the law under our form of Capitalism?

It may give the impression that the least wealthy are worth-less under our form of Capitalism.

Why do you refuse to understand that both parties have equal power to terminate the agreement?

Because you are missing the point about equality before the law.

Why do Only capitalists of wealth have full recourse to the legal concept of employment at will, but not the least wealthy regarding unemployment compensation merely for exercising that form of equality in terminating the agreement on an at-will basis and collect unemployment on that same, at-will basis in an at-will employment State.

Do capitalists of wealth find it to difficult to have an employment ethic to complement a work ethic; even in Right to Work States.

Fuck off child, I'm tired of your word games. No need to reply, I won't.

Is Socialism too much work due to all of the equality required. Why claim it is "hard work" that is important under any form of Capitalism, if you can't handle it under socialism.

 

[OKTexas]

If that's the best crap that the GOP can come up with----they are beyond worthless. Nothing says love the working man with crap like this.

Why do you hate working people? Sometimes it's nice to get in a few extra hours to buy the finer things in life.

Or a few extra days? If you could get rid of health care and vacation benefits, it would be perfect.

Your dear leader already did that quite nicely by destroying the 40 hr. week.

 

[Disir]

Blogs, seriously:

employment ads for nurses - Bing

employment ads for truck drivers - Bing

I worked in the trucking industry before I retired, I'm aware of the turnover rates. I also know there are many driving jobs that are local type delivery, ranging from auto parts stores to gas and propane delivery that pay a decent wage.

I also have direct knowledge that hospitals all over the country are having to hire contract nurses usually from out of state to fill positions.

So feel free to believe your blogs, I'll go with what I know as facts.

You have a few scattered areas with a shortage but it isn't nationwide. It's like the BS with the STEM shortage. There is none. It's about driving down wages. You guys can BS all you want but the reality is that these people don't want to pay.

You statement is contrary to the laws of economics, shortages, even perceived shortages drive up costs, not down.

That is a rather odd claim. Disir, how does faking shortages drive prices down?

Creates a surplus of nurses and there is absolutely nothing odd about it. It is exactly like the myth of the STEM shortage.

That's pretty cool. So, whenever we want something to cost less, we can pretend there a shortage and and it will "create" a surplus, those lower prices. Then step 2. ? Then, Profit!

Is it? Did you like how they claimed that there was a shortage of STEM so that they could hire people via H1B visas? Bet you jumped on the cool wagon there too, eh?

 

[danielpalos]

The high tech sector was complaining that employers merely wanted to lower labor costs by hiring people from less developed economies.

 

[Brain357]

Wisconsin’s GOP is trying to nix an existing law that requires employers in the manufacturing and retail sectors to give employees at least 24 hours off during each consecutive seven-day period. Currently, for an employee to skip his or her weekly day off, an employer has to get approval from the state’s Department of Workforce Development. The Wisconsin Manufacturers and Commerce association—a staunch advocate of the bill—suggests that the step is onerous and unnecessary, since the department has approved 733 such requests over the past five years, a number they imply means that the department is rubber-stamping the requests. Supporters also suggest that the plan ultimately helps employees who want to work more hours.
Will Wisconsin Have 7-Day Workweeks - The Atlantic

Yep. The GOP is awesome.

Morons.

No wonder WI has such bad job creation numbers.

Really,

“Wisconsin’s unemployment rate dropped below 5.0% percent for the first time since 2008 while employment reached an all-time high,” DWD Secretary Reggie Newson said. “The state’s preliminary addition of 13,600 private sector jobs over the month is the best one-month jump since September 2003 according to the benchmarked series. And, with an upward revision of January’s month-over-month gain by 4,200 jobs, the monthly data series suggests we are off to a strong economic start in 2015.”

DWD numbers show Wisconsin unemployment below 5

Yes really.
After running on the promise to create 250,000 new private sector jobs by the end of his first term, Walker didn’t just fail to meet this goal, he failed miserably, creating barely half of his promised amount.

In terms of job growth, Wisconsin has consistently trailed the national average. In fact, Wisconsin only saw 1.5 percent private-sector job growth in 2014. Unfortunately for Wisconsinites, while this is the best job creation number Walker has seen throughout his entire time in office, it lags far behind the national growth rate of 2.6 percent.
A closer look at Wisconsin s economy under Gov. Scott Walker TheHill

 

[danielpalos]

I believe the governor of Wisconsin may have missed his State calling: Unemployment insurance in the United States originated in Wisconsin in 1932.[3]--https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unemployment_benefits