9th Circuit Strikes once again

ScreamingEagle

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Teaching Johnny About Islam
Posted 5/19/2006

Education: In our brave new schools, Johnny can't say the pledge, but he can recite the Quran. Yup, the same court that found the phrase "under God" unconstitutional now endorses Islamic catechism in public school.

In a recent federal decision that got surprisingly little press, even from conservative talk radio, California's 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled it's OK to put public-school kids through Muslim role-playing exercises, including:

Reciting aloud Muslim prayers that begin with "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful . . . ."

Memorizing the Muslim profession of faith: "Allah is the only true God and Muhammad is his messenger."

Chanting "Praise be to Allah" in response to teacher prompts.

Professing as "true" the Muslim belief that "The Holy Quran is God's word."

Giving up candy and TV to demonstrate Ramadan, the Muslim holy month of fasting.

Designing prayer rugs, taking an Arabic name and essentially "becoming a Muslim" for two full weeks.

Parents of seventh-graders, who after 9-11 were taught the pro-Islamic lessons as part of California's world history curriculum, sued under the First Amendment ban on religious establishment. They argued, reasonably, that the government was promoting Islam.

But a federal judge appointed by President Clinton told them in so many words to get over it, that the state was merely teaching kids about another "culture."

So the parents appealed. Unfortunately, the most left-wing court in the land got their case. The 9th Circuit, which previously ruled in favor of an atheist who filed suit against the words "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance, upheld the lower court ruling.

The decision is a major victory for the multiculturalists and Islamic apologists in California and across the country who've never met a culture or religion they didn't like — with the exception of Western civilization and Christianity. They are legally in the clear to indoctrinate kids into the "peaceful" and "tolerant" religion of Islam, while continuing to denigrate Judeo-Christian values.

In the California course on world religions, Christianity is not presented equally. It's covered in just two days and doesn't involve kids in any role-playing activities. But kids do get a good dose of skepticism about the Christian faith, including a biting history of its persecution of other peoples. In contrast, Islam gets a pass from critical review. Even jihad is presented as an "internal personal struggle to do one's best to resist temptation," and not holy war.

The ed consultant's name is Susan L. Douglass. No, she's not a Christian scholar. She's a devout Muslim activist on the Saudi government payroll, according to an investigation by Paul Sperry, author of "Infiltration: How Muslim Spies and Subversives Have Penetrated Washington." He found that for years Douglass taught social studies at the Islamic Saudi Academy just outside Washington, D.C. Her husband still teaches there.

So what? By infiltrating our public school system, the Saudis hope to make Islam more widely accepted while converting impressionable American youth to their radical cause. Recall that John Walker Lindh, the "American Taliban," was a product of the California school system. What's next, field trips to Mecca?

This case is critical not just to our culture but our national security. It should be brought before the Supreme Court, which has outlawed prayer in school. Let's see what it says about practicing Islam in class. It will be a good test for the bench's two new conservative justices.

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Man I love the 9th Circuit. It takes courage to rewrite the US Constitution on an almost daily basis. Anybody that can wipe their ass with the building block of democracy is ok in my book! :321: :finger: :fu2: :finger3:
 
Why the condemnation? You should be proud of the tolerance shown. I'm willing to bet that in Pakistan or Afghanistan or any other 'stan that there are no classes teaching Yusuf about how Christians pray and how they view The Bible.

Is Buddhism in the curriculum? If not, then it should be. The harried and overworked teacher could get the kids meditating. Silently. With their eyes closed.

Ah, peace, not necessarily world peace, just peace :D
 
Diuretic said:
Why the condemnation? You should be proud of the tolerance shown. I'm willing to bet that in Pakistan or Afghanistan or any other 'stan that there are no classes teaching Yusuf about how Christians pray and how they view The Bible.

Is Buddhism in the curriculum? If not, then it should be. The harried and overworked teacher could get the kids meditating. Silently. With their eyes closed.

Ah, peace, not necessarily world peace, just peace :D

The condemnation is because the good old 9th does not have the same tolerance for other religions in its schools....I can just imagine what would happen if someone tried to teach some Christian prayers or rituals in public schools!

There is something seriously wrong on that coast!
 
Sickening. I'm pretty sure why there's little mention of the US in the Bible/last days/ etc. At this rate our country will no longer exist within 100 years.

The people responsible for that ruling would better serve humanity if they'd look into assisted-suicide. :(
 
Diuretic said:
Why the condemnation? You should be proud of the tolerance shown. I'm willing to bet that in Pakistan or Afghanistan or any other 'stan that there are no classes teaching Yusuf about how Christians pray and how they view The Bible.

Is Buddhism in the curriculum? If not, then it should be. The harried and overworked teacher could get the kids meditating. Silently. With their eyes closed.

Ah, peace, not necessarily world peace, just peace :D

The problem is that the Bible isn't tolerated in public schools. If it were taught along side the other religions then I wouldn't have a problem with this.
 
onthefence said:
The problem is that the Bible isn't tolerated in public schools. If it were taught along side the other religions then I wouldn't have a problem with this.

Indeed. Teaching all religions side by side in a comparative religions class, or even social studies, would be fine. But to disallow Christianity and allow Islam is no different than allowing Christianity and disallowing Islam.
 
5stringJeff said:
Indeed. Teaching all religions side by side in a comparative religions class, or even social studies, would be fine. But to disallow Christianity and allow Islam is no different than allowing Christianity and disallowing Islam.
I've posted this before and I'm sure will again, as it's a topic that seems to come round and round:

I teach in a CATHOLIC SCHOOL. The 7th grade curriculum for religion is CREED. As its name implies, the basis is the Nicene Creed. Within the study is comparative religions: Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Zoroastrianism, agnosticism, atheism. The whole thing is covered within 2 weeks. At a high school level, I would bet in 4 weeks, as they would deal with more philosophical details.

In 6th grade, we use Prentice Hall for ancient history. Within the studies are the major religions cited, except Zoroastrianism, agnosticism, and atheism. There are more polytheistic religions mentioned.

In both forums, the religions are presented in a respectful and factual way. In religion classes of course, the Catholic perspective is accented. But even in that, there is no condescension of the other religions given.

Prentice Hall is a MAJOR publisher, I do wonder how some of the West Coast schools are finding texts to match what they are doing? The teachers have to be writing their own curricula, which to the best of my knowledge would go against all state teaching standards due to lack of peer revue.
 

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