87% or 1.4 billion Muslims are NOT affected by the TEMPORARY TRAVEL BAN. Not much of a "MUSLIM BAN"

[GaryDog]

What kind of shit "MUSLIM BAN" is this when 87% of the world's Muslims are still free to enter the USA with PROPER PAPERWORK?

If 1.4 BILLION MUSLIMS can enter the USA, Trump doesn't know how to do a ban.

so true-----it is a HOSTILE COUNTRY BAN-------nothing new

Presumably ALL of the countries that contained the 9/11 hijackers, the shoebomber, et al, are NOT hostile?

That's what you're saying?

So our goal is to retroactively stop an attack that happened in 2001?

So where's your time machine?

So it's your position that the countries of origin for hijackers who produced the worst terrorist attack in world history are NOT countries that are likely to host more attackers?

Said country has severely tightened down both its border security and how it keeps tabs on the more militant of its citizens, something the countries on the current list (made by Obama) are unable or unwilling to do.

LMAO!! Okay. You're not getting it. The terrorists didn't immigrate to those countries. They were BORN there.

 

[martybegan]

so true-----it is a HOSTILE COUNTRY BAN-------nothing new

Presumably ALL of the countries that contained the 9/11 hijackers, the shoebomber, et al, are NOT hostile?

That's what you're saying?

So our goal is to retroactively stop an attack that happened in 2001?

So where's your time machine?

So it's your position that the countries of origin for hijackers who produced the worst terrorist attack in world history are NOT countries that are likely to host more attackers?

can you be more specific?

Trump is NOT banning entry from immigrations from UAE, Lebanon, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia.


Those are the exact countries where all 19 9/11 hijackers came from.

He's also not banning travel from Pakistan, where Osama bin Laden was being sheltered.

So tell me again how this ban is targeted to prevent future attacks when it doesn't address the country that played host to the perpetrators of ALL PRIOR ATTACKS?

All of those prior attackers are dead, and those countries are trying or have already beefed up both their border security or their tracking of their own radicals.

 

[NYcarbineer]

It's a Muslim ban in the countries under the ban because the EO includes an explicit exception for 'religious minorities' in those countries.

Religious minorities in Muslim majority countries. Work that out in your head.

 

[ColonelAngus]

What kind of shit "MUSLIM BAN" is this when 87% of the world's Muslims are still free to enter the USA with PROPER PAPERWORK?

If 1.4 BILLION MUSLIMS can enter the USA, Trump doesn't know how to do a ban.

It's not a Muslim Ban, that's a bogus term. It is an overreactive and counter productive ban on citizens from 7 hostile countries. Basically it is a political posture tough guy move by Trump that wasn't completely thought through

Trump himself calls it a Muslim ban, however.

He sucks at banning Muslims if 1.4 billion are still allowed to legally enter the USA.

Trump sucks at A LOT.

What do you think of the fact that he's giving preference to let back in Christian citizens of the banned countries? Still no "muslim ban" even though he's discriminating on the basis of those who identify as Muslims and he also called it a Muslim ban?

I blame liberals and the $1.2 billion they pissed away trying to get a criminal into the White House for Obama's 3rd term.


When will those death camps open?

 

[martybegan]

so true-----it is a HOSTILE COUNTRY BAN-------nothing new

Presumably ALL of the countries that contained the 9/11 hijackers, the shoebomber, et al, are NOT hostile?

That's what you're saying?

So our goal is to retroactively stop an attack that happened in 2001?

So where's your time machine?

So it's your position that the countries of origin for hijackers who produced the worst terrorist attack in world history are NOT countries that are likely to host more attackers?

Said country has severely tightened down both its border security and how it keeps tabs on the more militant of its citizens, something the countries on the current list (made by Obama) are unable or unwilling to do.

LMAO!! Okay. You're not getting it. The terrorists didn't immigrate to those countries. They were BORN there.

No, you are the one that appears to be fighting the last war, as usual.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Presumably ALL of the countries that contained the 9/11 hijackers, the shoebomber, et al, are NOT hostile?

That's what you're saying?

So our goal is to retroactively stop an attack that happened in 2001?

So where's your time machine?

So it's your position that the countries of origin for hijackers who produced the worst terrorist attack in world history are NOT countries that are likely to host more attackers?

can you be more specific?

Trump is NOT banning entry from immigrations from UAE, Lebanon, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia.


Those are the exact countries where all 19 9/11 hijackers came from.

He's also not banning travel from Pakistan, where Osama bin Laden was being sheltered.

So tell me again how this ban is targeted to prevent future attacks when it doesn't address the country that played host to the perpetrators of ALL PRIOR ATTACKS?

All of those prior attackers are dead, and those countries are trying or have already beefed up both their border security or their tracking of their own radicals.

And Iraq hasn't?

 

[martybegan]

So our goal is to retroactively stop an attack that happened in 2001?

So where's your time machine?

So it's your position that the countries of origin for hijackers who produced the worst terrorist attack in world history are NOT countries that are likely to host more attackers?

can you be more specific?

Trump is NOT banning entry from immigrations from UAE, Lebanon, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia.


Those are the exact countries where all 19 9/11 hijackers came from.

He's also not banning travel from Pakistan, where Osama bin Laden was being sheltered.

So tell me again how this ban is targeted to prevent future attacks when it doesn't address the country that played host to the perpetrators of ALL PRIOR ATTACKS?

All of those prior attackers are dead, and those countries are trying or have already beefed up both their border security or their tracking of their own radicals.

And Iraq hasn't?

Considering they still have fighting going on in country, no they have not.

 

[ColonelAngus]

I'll just leave this statute right here.

Read the actual statute and make up your own mind if what Trump did was illegal.

8 U.S. Code § 1182 - Inadmissible aliens

(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President

Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate. Whenever the Attorney General finds that a commercial airline has failed to comply with regulations of the Attorney General relating to requirements of airlines for the detection of fraudulent documents used by passengers traveling to the United States (including the training of personnel in such detection), the Attorney General may suspend the entry of some or all aliens transported to the United States by such airline.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Dems are ANGRY that the travel ban isn't WIDER? If the Dems want to suggest additional countries that we should temporarily ban from travel to the USA, I am willing to listen. Mexico, maybe?

 

[Dschrute3]

There is no 'Muslim Ban.' That's just Left Wing/Democrat Fake News. Muslims will continue entering the US. His recent Executive Order applies to certain countries that are incredibly chaotic and dangerous. He's done the right thing. He's looking out for Americans. That should always be the #1 priority. The Democrats can continue throwing their hissy-fits, that is their right. But most Americans do support Trump on this.

 

[NYcarbineer]

So it's your position that the countries of origin for hijackers who produced the worst terrorist attack in world history are NOT countries that are likely to host more attackers?

can you be more specific?

Trump is NOT banning entry from immigrations from UAE, Lebanon, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia.


Those are the exact countries where all 19 9/11 hijackers came from.

He's also not banning travel from Pakistan, where Osama bin Laden was being sheltered.

So tell me again how this ban is targeted to prevent future attacks when it doesn't address the country that played host to the perpetrators of ALL PRIOR ATTACKS?

All of those prior attackers are dead, and those countries are trying or have already beefed up both their border security or their tracking of their own radicals.

And Iraq hasn't?

Considering they still have fighting going on in country, no they have not.

So why is Trump willing to let Syrian Christians in?

 

[Slade3200]

What kind of shit "MUSLIM BAN" is this when 87% of the world's Muslims are still free to enter the USA with PROPER PAPERWORK?

If 1.4 BILLION MUSLIMS can enter the USA, Trump doesn't know how to do a ban.

It's not a Muslim Ban, that's a bogus term. It is an overreactive and counter productive ban on citizens from 7 hostile countries. Basically it is a political posture tough guy move by Trump that wasn't completely thought through

Trump himself calls it a Muslim ban, however.

He sucks at banning Muslims if 1.4 billion are still allowed to legally enter the USA.

Trump sucks at A LOT.

What do you think of the fact that he's giving preference to let back in Christian citizens of the banned countries? Still no "muslim ban" even though he's discriminating on the basis of those who identify as Muslims and he also called it a Muslim ban?

I blame liberals and the $1.2 billion they pissed away trying to get a criminal into the White House for Obama's 3rd term.


When will those death camps open?

How is the 1.2 billion relevant at all?

 

[ColonelAngus]

Carter, Obama, Trump...all racists.

DISGUSTING.

 

[martybegan]

can you be more specific?

Trump is NOT banning entry from immigrations from UAE, Lebanon, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia.


Those are the exact countries where all 19 9/11 hijackers came from.

He's also not banning travel from Pakistan, where Osama bin Laden was being sheltered.

So tell me again how this ban is targeted to prevent future attacks when it doesn't address the country that played host to the perpetrators of ALL PRIOR ATTACKS?

All of those prior attackers are dead, and those countries are trying or have already beefed up both their border security or their tracking of their own radicals.

And Iraq hasn't?

Considering they still have fighting going on in country, no they have not.

So why is Trump willing to let Syrian Christians in?

Who knows? and it isn't an automatic "in", they just get to go to the front of the line, which will probably be the same situation when the moratorium is lifted in 90 days.

 

[Tom Cassidy]

What kind of shit "MUSLIM BAN" is this when 87% of the world's Muslims are still free to enter the USA with PROPER PAPERWORK?

If 1.4 BILLION MUSLIMS can enter the USA, Trump doesn't know how to do a ban.

All terrorists are Muslims = "Muslim terrorists", even though 1.4 billion Muslims are not terrorists.

All banned people are Muslims = "Muslim ban", even though 1.4 million Muslims can enter USA.

Be logically consistent, pussy. Call a spade a spade. This is a Muslim ban. Trump is keeping his promise.

GO TRUMP!

 

[ColonelAngus]

The "MARCH FOR WOMEN" organizers banned women who were "PRO LIFE"...UNAMERICAN! Right?

 

[Dragonlady]

It's not a Muslim Ban, that's a bogus term. It is an overreactive and counter productive ban on citizens from 7 hostile countries. Basically it is a political posture tough guy move by Trump that wasn't completely thought through

Trump himself calls it a Muslim ban, however.

He sucks at banning Muslims if 1.4 billion are still allowed to legally enter the USA.

Trump sucks at A LOT.

What do you think of the fact that he's giving preference to let back in Christian citizens of the banned countries? Still no "muslim ban" even though he's discriminating on the basis of those who identify as Muslims and he also called it a Muslim ban?

I blame liberals and the $1.2 billion they pissed away trying to get a criminal into the White House for Obama's 3rd term.


When will those death camps open?

How is the 1.2 billion relevant at all?

Because even though 1.2 billion Muslims aren't affected by the travel bank, they are pissed off about it, because it is hating on Muslims, no matter how much the admirers of Steve Bannon and the White Nationalists say it isn't.

Trump has given 1.2 million people new reasons to hate America, including your Iraqi allies in the war on ISIS. ISIS now has recruitment material to last another all-out war.

Anyone who still thinks this ban is a good idea, is dumber than a sack of hammers.

 

[Slade3200]

There is no 'Muslim Ban.' That's just Left Wing/Democrat Fake News. Muslims will continue entering the US. His recent Executive Order applies to certain countries that are incredibly chaotic and dangerous. He's done the right thing. He's looking out for Americans. That should always be the #1 priority. The Democrats can continue throwing their hissy-fits, that is their right. But most Americans do support Trump on this.

Saying that he did the right thing is extremely debatable... I don't see how the EA makes Americans safer... seems that it could have the opposite effect with all things considered

 

[Dragonlady]

The "MARCH FOR WOMEN" organizers banned women who were "PRO LIFE"...UNAMERICAN! Right?

No they didn't. They banned pro-life "sponsors" of the march. Many pro-life women marched in the women's march.

 

[Dschrute3]

There is no 'Muslim Ban.' That's just Left Wing/Democrat Fake News. Muslims will continue entering the US. His recent Executive Order applies to certain countries that are incredibly chaotic and dangerous. He's done the right thing. He's looking out for Americans. That should always be the #1 priority. The Democrats can continue throwing their hissy-fits, that is their right. But most Americans do support Trump on this.

Saying that he did the right thing is extremely debatable... I don't see how the EA makes Americans safer... seems that it could have the opposite effect with all things considered

Limiting Immigration from certain very dangerous countries, is fine with me. Accepting Thousands in from those countries, isn't. Trump's got it right. Protecting Americans has to be the #1 priority.