829 billion dollars

[rdean]

CBO: Health care bill to cost $829 billion.

Here's the boom-POW!!!!

The Congressional Budget Office added that the measure would reduce federal deficits by $81 billion over a decade and probably lead to "continued reductions in federal budget deficits" in the years beyond.

Notice the CBO doesn't mention anything about the national debt......which is where Congress will borrow money to pay for this program....and guess what....there will be across the board tax hikes for ALL Americans.

Hmmmmmmmm.

Wow, that half of what it cost to level Iraq.

How come Republicans are so convinced it's good to not help other Americans.

Study Links Medical Costs and Personal Bankruptcy - BusinessWeek

But medically bankrupt families with private insurance reported average out-of pocket medical bills of $17,749, while the uninsured's bills averaged $26,971. Of the families who started out with insurance but lost it during the course of their illness, medical bills averaged $22,658. "For middle-class Americans, health insurance offers little protection. Most of us have policies with so many loopholes, co-payments, and deductibles that illness can put you in the poorhouse," said lead author Himmelstein. "Unless you're Warren Buffett, your family is just one serious illness away from bankruptcy."

 

[DiamondDave]

CBO: Health care bill to cost $829 billion.

Here's the boom-POW!!!!

The Congressional Budget Office added that the measure would reduce federal deficits by $81 billion over a decade and probably lead to "continued reductions in federal budget deficits" in the years beyond.

Notice the CBO doesn't mention anything about the national debt......which is where Congress will borrow money to pay for this program....and guess what....there will be across the board tax hikes for ALL Americans.

Hmmmmmmmm.

Wow, that half of what it cost to level Iraq.

How come Republicans are so convinced it's good to not help other Americans.

Study Links Medical Costs and Personal Bankruptcy - BusinessWeek

But medically bankrupt families with private insurance reported average out-of pocket medical bills of $17,749, while the uninsured's bills averaged $26,971. Of the families who started out with insurance but lost it during the course of their illness, medical bills averaged $22,658. "For middle-class Americans, health insurance offers little protection. Most of us have policies with so many loopholes, co-payments, and deductibles that illness can put you in the poorhouse," said lead author Himmelstein. "Unless you're Warren Buffett, your family is just one serious illness away from bankruptcy."

You can help all you want you leftist prick... it's called motherfucking CHARITY... real generous with other people's money, so typical for a radical leftist

And again.. show in the constitution where you are owed or entitled to infringe on the personal rights of others to have those other bear the burden for your personal responsibilities and well being

 

[rdean]

CBO: Health care bill to cost $829 billion.

Here's the boom-POW!!!!



Notice the CBO doesn't mention anything about the national debt......which is where Congress will borrow money to pay for this program....and guess what....there will be across the board tax hikes for ALL Americans.

Hmmmmmmmm.

Wow, that half of what it cost to level Iraq.

How come Republicans are so convinced it's good to not help other Americans.

Study Links Medical Costs and Personal Bankruptcy - BusinessWeek

But medically bankrupt families with private insurance reported average out-of pocket medical bills of $17,749, while the uninsured's bills averaged $26,971. Of the families who started out with insurance but lost it during the course of their illness, medical bills averaged $22,658. "For middle-class Americans, health insurance offers little protection. Most of us have policies with so many loopholes, co-payments, and deductibles that illness can put you in the poorhouse," said lead author Himmelstein. "Unless you're Warren Buffett, your family is just one serious illness away from bankruptcy."

You can help all you want you leftist prick... it's called motherfucking CHARITY... real generous with other people's money, so typical for a radical leftist

And again.. show in the constitution where you are owed or entitled to infringe on the personal rights of others to have those other bear the burden for your personal responsibilities and well being

Finally, your true colors.

Why do you want to help the people of Iraq? Your kind always does.

 

[Dr.House]

Finally, your true colors.

Why do you want to help the people of Iraq? Your kind always does.

Why do you want to steal money that isn't yours? Your kind always does.

 

[The Rabbi]

Still not deficit neutral...Which is what was promised.

But I guess as long as the guy breaking promises and exploding spending has that (D) by his name, all is just peace and patchouli oil.

How is a bill which reduces the deficit violating a promise that the bill would not increase the deficit?

It doesn't.
But it does violate the promise not to tax anyone with income under $250k. He violated the promise already but so what?
The CBO scoring takes the bill at its word. We aren't going to cut Medicare as much as the bill says. We aren't going to see "savings" like the bill lays out. It is a case of "I'll lie and you swear to it." Obama summoned Elmendorf to the WH and I would bet this is the result.

 

[Ame®icano]

I wouldn't be surprised if Obama start campaigning that health care bill will actually reduce national debt by couple of trillions.

BTW, bill will cover 94% of population, and that means that out of 30 million of AMericans 25 million will still be uninsured. I would say, great investment, $829 billion to cover just additional 5 million people. WTF???

 

[rdean]

Finally, your true colors.

Why do you want to help the people of Iraq? Your kind always does.

Why do you want to steal money that isn't yours? Your kind always does.

Out of the highest paid 100 executives in the US, 5 work at Cigna. The CEO makes nearly a quarter billion over five years. The company has two corporate jets valued at more than 68 million. The Board of Directors eat off gold plated plates and silverware. The CEO lives in a 13 million dollar mansion.

Cigna makes nothing. They have no doctors, no nurses, no hospitals. They "Legally" skim money off insurance polices. How many people are denied life saving operations to make a quarter billion dollars?

This is what you are defending? Seriously? How is this good for America? I know you can't answer with anything that makes any sense because it's not possible.

 

[jreeves]

CBO: Health care bill to cost $829 billion.

Here's the boom-POW!!!!

The Congressional Budget Office added that the measure would reduce federal deficits by $81 billion over a decade and probably lead to "continued reductions in federal budget deficits" in the years beyond.

Notice the CBO doesn't mention anything about the national debt......which is where Congress will borrow money to pay for this program....and guess what....there will be across the board tax hikes for ALL Americans.

Hmmmmmmmm.

Wow, that half of what it cost to level Iraq.

How come Republicans are so convinced it's good to not help other Americans.

Study Links Medical Costs and Personal Bankruptcy - BusinessWeek

But medically bankrupt families with private insurance reported average out-of pocket medical bills of $17,749, while the uninsured's bills averaged $26,971. Of the families who started out with insurance but lost it during the course of their illness, medical bills averaged $22,658. "For middle-class Americans, health insurance offers little protection. Most of us have policies with so many loopholes, co-payments, and deductibles that illness can put you in the poorhouse," said lead author Himmelstein. "Unless you're Warren Buffett, your family is just one serious illness away from bankruptcy."

What's the second leading cause of bankruptcies in Canada, who employs universal health care? Um...Um....medical expenses

 

[oreo]

Less than the cost of two wars over ten years

At least we have our priorities straight

Reality check:

If we're all dead because unchecked terrorism--there really is no need for health care, is there?----

 

[jreeves]

Wow, that half of what it cost to level Iraq.

How come Republicans are so convinced it's good to not help other Americans.

Study Links Medical Costs and Personal Bankruptcy - BusinessWeek

But medically bankrupt families with private insurance reported average out-of pocket medical bills of $17,749, while the uninsured's bills averaged $26,971. Of the families who started out with insurance but lost it during the course of their illness, medical bills averaged $22,658. "For middle-class Americans, health insurance offers little protection. Most of us have policies with so many loopholes, co-payments, and deductibles that illness can put you in the poorhouse," said lead author Himmelstein. "Unless you're Warren Buffett, your family is just one serious illness away from bankruptcy."

You can help all you want you leftist prick... it's called motherfucking CHARITY... real generous with other people's money, so typical for a radical leftist

And again.. show in the constitution where you are owed or entitled to infringe on the personal rights of others to have those other bear the burden for your personal responsibilities and well being

So, why is it OK to use our tax money to first destroy and then rebuild Iraq? Why is my tax money being used to build schools in Afghanistan? Please show in the Constitution where those people in Iraq and/or Afghanistan are owed or entitled to infringe on the personal rights of we the people in America and bear the burden of their personal responsibilities and well being?

When people in Iraq or Afghanistan don't have schools or infrastructure, entities fill their need, they build schools. ie...terrorist training camps....

BTW...it's not a choice. Obama plans on doing both the war and universal health care.

 

[rdean]

CBO: Health care bill to cost $829 billion.

Here's the boom-POW!!!!



Notice the CBO doesn't mention anything about the national debt......which is where Congress will borrow money to pay for this program....and guess what....there will be across the board tax hikes for ALL Americans.

Hmmmmmmmm.

Wow, that half of what it cost to level Iraq.

How come Republicans are so convinced it's good to not help other Americans.

Study Links Medical Costs and Personal Bankruptcy - BusinessWeek

But medically bankrupt families with private insurance reported average out-of pocket medical bills of $17,749, while the uninsured's bills averaged $26,971. Of the families who started out with insurance but lost it during the course of their illness, medical bills averaged $22,658. "For middle-class Americans, health insurance offers little protection. Most of us have policies with so many loopholes, co-payments, and deductibles that illness can put you in the poorhouse," said lead author Himmelstein. "Unless you're Warren Buffett, your family is just one serious illness away from bankruptcy."

What's the second leading cause of bankruptcies in Canada, who employs universal health care? Um...Um....medical expenses

So what's the first? Is second a distant second? 62% in this country sounds like first. 49% in Canada would mean medical expenses would be at least 13 percentage points back. And that's bad?

 

[rdean]

CBO: Health care bill to cost $829 billion.

Here's the boom-POW!!!!



Notice the CBO doesn't mention anything about the national debt......which is where Congress will borrow money to pay for this program....and guess what....there will be across the board tax hikes for ALL Americans.

Hmmmmmmmm.

Wow, that half of what it cost to level Iraq.

How come Republicans are so convinced it's good to not help other Americans.

Study Links Medical Costs and Personal Bankruptcy - BusinessWeek

But medically bankrupt families with private insurance reported average out-of pocket medical bills of $17,749, while the uninsured's bills averaged $26,971. Of the families who started out with insurance but lost it during the course of their illness, medical bills averaged $22,658. "For middle-class Americans, health insurance offers little protection. Most of us have policies with so many loopholes, co-payments, and deductibles that illness can put you in the poorhouse," said lead author Himmelstein. "Unless you're Warren Buffett, your family is just one serious illness away from bankruptcy."

What's the second leading cause of bankruptcies in Canada, who employs universal health care? Um...Um....medical expenses

You made me go and look it up.

First is job loss. Second is divorce. LAST is medical bankruptcy.

Remember, facts have a liberal bias.

Causes of bankruptcy in Canada

Don't you people get tired of just making stuff up? Ever?

 

[jreeves]

Wow, that half of what it cost to level Iraq.

How come Republicans are so convinced it's good to not help other Americans.

Study Links Medical Costs and Personal Bankruptcy - BusinessWeek

But medically bankrupt families with private insurance reported average out-of pocket medical bills of $17,749, while the uninsured's bills averaged $26,971. Of the families who started out with insurance but lost it during the course of their illness, medical bills averaged $22,658. "For middle-class Americans, health insurance offers little protection. Most of us have policies with so many loopholes, co-payments, and deductibles that illness can put you in the poorhouse," said lead author Himmelstein. "Unless you're Warren Buffett, your family is just one serious illness away from bankruptcy."

What's the second leading cause of bankruptcies in Canada, who employs universal health care? Um...Um....medical expenses

So what's the first? Is second a distant second? 62% in this country sounds like first. 49% in Canada would mean medical expenses would be at least 13 percentage points back. And that's bad?

Hmmm...I guess that's why Canada has a higher bankruptcy rate than the US huh?

http://www.fraserinstitute.org/Commerce.Web/product_files/HealthInsuranceandBankruptcyRates.pdf

• Unlike the United States, Canada has a universal, single-payer, government-run, socialized health
insurance system.
• Advocates of socialized medicine argue that the mixed public-private health insurance system in the
United States causes many Americans to become financially bankrupt, and that this would not
occur if the US adopted the Canadian health system.
• Following this logic, we should expect to observe a lower rate of personal bankruptcy in Canada
than in the United States.
• Yet the most recent data (2006 and 2007) shows that personal
bankruptcy rates are actually higher in Canada (.30% for both
years) than in the United States (.20% and .27%).
• Research indicates that medical spending was only one of
several contributing factors in 17 percent of US bankruptcies,
and that medical debts accounted for only 12 to 13 percent of
the total debts among American bankruptcy filers who cited
medical debt as one of their reasons for bankruptcy.


Medical reasons for bankruptcies
are not unique to the US. Research
commissioned by the Canadian
government (Redish et al., 2006)
indicates that medical reasons were
cited as the primary cause of bankruptcy
for approximately 15 percent
of bankrupt Canadian seniors (55
years of age and older).

Using a blog to support your point of view priceless....LMAO

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Less than the cost of two wars over ten years

At least we have our priorities straight

BOOOSH did it.

 

[rdean]

What's the second leading cause of bankruptcies in Canada, who employs universal health care? Um...Um....medical expenses

So what's the first? Is second a distant second? 62% in this country sounds like first. 49% in Canada would mean medical expenses would be at least 13 percentage points back. And that's bad?

Hmmm...I guess that's why Canada has a higher bankruptcy rate than the US huh?

http://www.fraserinstitute.org/Commerce.Web/product_files/HealthInsuranceandBankruptcyRates.pdf

• Unlike the United States, Canada has a universal, single-payer, government-run, socialized health
insurance system.
• Advocates of socialized medicine argue that the mixed public-private health insurance system in the
United States causes many Americans to become financially bankrupt, and that this would not
occur if the US adopted the Canadian health system.
• Following this logic, we should expect to observe a lower rate of personal bankruptcy in Canada
than in the United States.
• Yet the most recent data (2006 and 2007) shows that personal
bankruptcy rates are actually higher in Canada (.30% for both
years) than in the United States (.20% and .27%).
• Research indicates that medical spending was only one of
several contributing factors in 17 percent of US bankruptcies,
and that medical debts accounted for only 12 to 13 percent of
the total debts among American bankruptcy filers who cited
medical debt as one of their reasons for bankruptcy.


Medical reasons for bankruptcies
are not unique to the US. Research
commissioned by the Canadian
government (Redish et al., 2006)
indicates that medical reasons were
cited as the primary cause of bankruptcy
for approximately 15 percent
of bankrupt Canadian seniors (55
years of age and older).

Using a blog to support your point of view priceless....LMAO

I've got links. I don't know where you're getting your stuff from.

Medical bills prompt more than 60 percent of U.S. bankruptcies - CNN.com

Bankruptcies due to medical bills increased by nearly 50 percent in a six-year period, from 46 percent in 2001 to 62 percent in 2007, and most of those who filed for bankruptcy were middle-class, well-educated homeowners, according to a report that will be published in the August issue of The American Journal of Medicine.

 

[Lumpy 1]

Devil in the details, fine fellows.

They have to cut Medicare (never done before, Medicare already in debt).

Fine average citizens if they don't have insurance (unconstitutional probably).

Tax so-called Cadillac insurance deals ( labor leaders won't go for that, companies will just pass it on to consumers).

just for starters......

Democrats seem to like smoke blown up their

 

[jreeves]

So what's the first? Is second a distant second? 62% in this country sounds like first. 49% in Canada would mean medical expenses would be at least 13 percentage points back. And that's bad?

Hmmm...I guess that's why Canada has a higher bankruptcy rate than the US huh?

http://www.fraserinstitute.org/Commerce.Web/product_files/HealthInsuranceandBankruptcyRates.pdf

• Unlike the United States, Canada has a universal, single-payer, government-run, socialized health
insurance system.
• Advocates of socialized medicine argue that the mixed public-private health insurance system in the
United States causes many Americans to become financially bankrupt, and that this would not
occur if the US adopted the Canadian health system.
• Following this logic, we should expect to observe a lower rate of personal bankruptcy in Canada
than in the United States.
• Yet the most recent data (2006 and 2007) shows that personal
bankruptcy rates are actually higher in Canada (.30% for both
years) than in the United States (.20% and .27%).
• Research indicates that medical spending was only one of
several contributing factors in 17 percent of US bankruptcies,
and that medical debts accounted for only 12 to 13 percent of
the total debts among American bankruptcy filers who cited
medical debt as one of their reasons for bankruptcy.


Medical reasons for bankruptcies
are not unique to the US. Research
commissioned by the Canadian
government (Redish et al., 2006)
indicates that medical reasons were
cited as the primary cause of bankruptcy
for approximately 15 percent
of bankrupt Canadian seniors (55
years of age and older).

Using a blog to support your point of view priceless....LMAO

I've got links. I don't know where you're getting your stuff from.

Medical bills prompt more than 60 percent of U.S. bankruptcies - CNN.com

Bankruptcies due to medical bills increased by nearly 50 percent in a six-year period, from 46 percent in 2001 to 62 percent in 2007, and most of those who filed for bankruptcy were middle-class, well-educated homeowners, according to a report that will be published in the August issue of The American Journal of Medicine.

Right off the Office of the superintendent of Bankruptcy for Canada's website...




Now the American counterparts...
Medical Bankruptcy: Myth Versus Fact -- Dranove and Millenson 25 (2): w74 -- Health Affairs
Medical Bankruptcy: Myth Versus Fact
David Dranove and Michael L. Millenson

David Himmelstein and colleagues recently contended that medical problems contribute to 54.5 percent of personal bankruptcies and threaten the solvency of solidly middle-class Americans. They propose comprehensive national health insurance as a solution. A reexamination of their data suggests that medical bills are a contributing factor in just 17 percent of personal bankruptcies and that those affected tend to have incomes closer to poverty level than to middle class. Moreover, for national health insurance to have an impact, it would have to define "medical" expenses in a much broader way than is now typical of either private or government-funded plans.


Also, commonsense would ask if medical costs in the US are driving bankruptcies, then why does Canada have a higher rate of bankruptcies compared to the US?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I'm not worried at all, the Fed can just print more money to cover it. And
besides, we have an Ace in the Hole:

Barack Hussein Obama! Mmmm, mmmm, mmmm!

Obama's a real Ace hole

 

[PatekPhilippe]

Finally, your true colors.

Why do you want to help the people of Iraq? Your kind always does.

Why do you want to steal money that isn't yours? Your kind always does.

Out of the highest paid 100 executives in the US, 5 work at Cigna. The CEO makes nearly a quarter billion over five years. The company has two corporate jets valued at more than 68 million. The Board of Directors eat off gold plated plates and silverware. The CEO lives in a 13 million dollar mansion.

Cigna makes nothing. They have no doctors, no nurses, no hospitals. They "Legally" skim money off insurance polices. How many people are denied life saving operations to make a quarter billion dollars?

This is what you are defending? Seriously? How is this good for America? I know you can't answer with anything that makes any sense because it's not possible.

Oh cry me a river commie prick....

rdean says: "WWWWAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! The evil corporations are making too much money...I'm too fucken stupid to get an education and do something for myself...I need Obama to take care of me until I die."

It sucks to be you rdean.

 

[Dr.House]

Finally, your true colors.

Why do you want to help the people of Iraq? Your kind always does.

Why do you want to steal money that isn't yours? Your kind always does.

Out of the highest paid 100 executives in the US, 5 work at Cigna. The CEO makes nearly a quarter billion over five years. The company has two corporate jets valued at more than 68 million. The Board of Directors eat off gold plated plates and silverware. The CEO lives in a 13 million dollar mansion.

Cigna makes nothing. They have no doctors, no nurses, no hospitals. They "Legally" skim money off insurance polices. How many people are denied life saving operations to make a quarter billion dollars?

This is what you are defending? Seriously? How is this good for America? I know you can't answer with anything that makes any sense because it's not possible.

So why do you want to steal money that isn't yours?

If you really wanted financial equality you would take half your earnings and give it directly to someone making less than you... Would you voluntarily give the homeless guy you pass every day on the street half of your gross pay?

I already know your answer, you fucking hypocrite... What you're really pissed at is someone smarter than you (which is 99.99999999% of Americans) did better than you and you want something you didn't earn...