81% agree, raise taxes

[Gadawg73]

hey, just heard from that same poll that 34% were self identified conservatives and 26 or 28% were self identified democrats.

Majority of Republicans polled agree with raising taxes on the rich...

Who do we put in charge of determining who is "rich" and who isn't?

My neighbor lives in a 600K home paid off. He drives a brand new Suburban and owns 2 boats and a beach home paid off. No kids. Hundreds of thousands in the bank. Big pension. Is he "rich"?
Not according to tax law and rates. He is poor.
Another neighbor earns $251,000.00 and has 4 kids. He helps his Mom and has a large mortgage.
He IS RICH under current tax "reform" submitted by Democrats.
Anyone that wants to raise taxes in a recession when we need ALL THE $$$ WE CAN KEEP IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR is a dumb ass fool.

 

[grunt11b]

There is a faction on the right that react like this when they cant refute the facts presented.

The factds are that we have created tons of jobs and had great economies with much higher tax rates on the wealthy.

If you note when the economy is bad they say "you cant raise taxes now"


When the econony is good they say "you cant raise taxes now".


They only want them cut and cut and cut.

The are the fiscally irresponsible party.

They NEVER want the wealthy to pay their fair share no matter how much the wealthy rape the economy

At what point in history of this country has taxing the wealthy created jobs and led to prosperity? Can you name that point? Or are you following the alinsky leftist cue and presenting that point hoping people believe you?

errr... Hmm.

Well if 'taxing the wealthy' simply means more than they are taxed now... I'd refer you to the last 70 years or so. How did we do during that 'Point in history?'

You turned a question into a question, please answer the question.

 

[Cuyo]

At what point in history of this country has taxing the wealthy created jobs and led to prosperity? Can you name that point? Or are you following the alinsky leftist cue and presenting that point hoping people believe you?

errr... Hmm.

Well if 'taxing the wealthy' simply means more than they are taxed now... I'd refer you to the last 70 years or so. How did we do during that 'Point in history?'

You turned a question into a question, please answer the question.

Well, OK - We did really well for the last 70 years with higher taxes than we have now.

That's your point in history. The entire post-war history up until Dumbya, save for 1 year under Reagan - Taxes were higher than they are now.

 

[BolshevikHunter]

hey, just heard from that same poll that 34% were self identified conservatives and 26 or 28% were self identified democrats.

Majority of Republicans polled agree with raising taxes on the rich...

No link = Talking out of your asshole. ~BH

 

[Political Junky]

celere: Today's polling figures. 81% of Americans support taxes on millionair­es


“Today's polling figures.

81% of Americans support taxes on millionair*es

68% of Americans support eliminatin*g the Bush tax cuts

74% of Americans support cutting oil/gas tax breaks

77% of Americans support bargaining rights for public sectors unions

Of those polled, 36% self-ident*ify as conservati*ve, 24% self-ident*ify as liberal

Polled by: NBC/Wall Street Journal”

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

I am suspicious that you might be a moron.

Let me get this right guy? You are "suspicious" that he is a moron, because he hit the nail right on the head?

Hey fuckO? How about you back yourself up and provide some proof that he isn't correct about your hero Michael Moore? I don't care if I was a dope smoking, smelly berkinstock wearing, filthy hippie in a tie dye with really long dreads begging for a quarter in Berkely. What he said was clearly the truth and I would admit to that. Yes, even while all doped up in Peoples park painting peace signs with resin on the back of coffee filters soaked in urine. ~BH

Nah, newby's a moron, and you're a moron by extension.

Suck rope pal.

Another hyper-intelligent response I see...

 

[Sallow]

This is so historically and economically ignorant.

In 1956, the top marginal tax rate of 91% for a married couple filing jointly only applied to incomes over $200,000, which is nearly $3.4 MILLION today.

And note the higher rates back then at lower levels of income (the 30% rate applies to the equivalent of approx. $100K today)

The Tax Foundation - U.S. Federal Individual Income Tax Rates History, 1913-2011

Inflation Calculator | Find US Dollar's Value from 1913-2011


The real lesson to draw from past rates is that more of the income tax burden was born by people at lower levels of income than today. With lower rates for wealthier taxpayers, they actually pay a higher share of the income tax burden.

In 2010, the top 10% of taxpayers paid nearly 70% of individual income taxes.

Contrast that with 50% in 1977 (the earliest I could find, with a top tax rate of 70% on incomes over $737K in today's dollars)

Preliminary Estimates of Effective Tax Rates

I can't find equivalent data for 1956, but given that the share of income tax collection as a % of GDP 17.4% (very close to the 18-19% average trend), the high taxes on The Rich didn't generate additional tax receipts.

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=1324]Federal Income Taxes, as a Share of GDP, Drop to Lowest Level Since 1942, According to Final Budget Data, 10/21/03

Did you even read that link? You are, in fact, making the case that the tax cuts did nothing to keep the economy afloat.

No I'm not.

The link shows that RAISING TAX RATES THROUGH THE ROOF do not result in more tax receipts.

In 2003, we were still in a recession. Tax receipts then rose, before we had the financial meltdown.

And with all those awful taxes..the United States experienced a growth in the Middle Class and people STILL got rich.

Go fig.

 

[BolshevikHunter]

I am suspicious that you might be a moron.

Let me get this right guy? You are "suspicious" that he is a moron, because he hit the nail right on the head?

Hey fuckO? How about you back yourself up and provide some proof that he isn't correct about your hero Michael Moore? I don't care if I was a dope smoking, smelly berkinstock wearing, filthy hippie in a tie dye with really long dreads begging for a quarter in Berkely. What he said was clearly the truth and I would admit to that. Yes, even while all doped up in Peoples park painting peace signs with resin on the back of coffee filters soaked in urine. ~BH

Nah, newby's a moron, and you're a moron by extension.

Suck rope pal.

Yeah, I joined here in August of 2009 and you joined in Febuary of 2010, but somehow I am the noob? You stupid dumb shit you. Anyone who uses the phrase "noob", is a fucking joke. Which clearly to everyone here, is exaclty what you are. Choke on my pole you weak minded maggot. ~BH

 

[Cuyo]

Let me get this right guy? You are "suspicious" that he is a moron, because he hit the nail right on the head?

Hey fuckO? How about you back yourself up and provide some proof that he isn't correct about your hero Michael Moore? I don't care if I was a dope smoking, smelly berkinstock wearing, filthy hippie in a tie dye with really long dreads begging for a quarter in Berkely. What he said was clearly the truth and I would admit to that. Yes, even while all doped up in Peoples park painting peace signs with resin on the back of coffee filters soaked in urine. ~BH

Nah, newby's a moron, and you're a moron by extension.

Suck rope pal.

Yeah, I joined here in August of 2009 and you joined in Febuary of 2010, but somehow I am the noob? You stupid dumb shit you. Anyone who uses the phrase "noob", is a fucking joke. Which clearly to everyone here, is exaclty what you are. Choke on my pole you weak minded maggot. ~BH

No, grunt is the newby, and you're a dumbass for at least 3 reasons in this last prattling post alone.

 

[BolshevikHunter]

At what point in history of this country has taxing the wealthy created jobs and led to prosperity? Can you name that point? Or are you following the alinsky leftist cue and presenting that point hoping people believe you?

errr... Hmm.

Well if 'taxing the wealthy' simply means more than they are taxed now... I'd refer you to the last 70 years or so. How did we do during that 'Point in history?'

You turned a question into a question, please answer the question.

This is what happens when you come into contact with a weak minded individual such as this joke Cuyo. The poor fuck can probably hardly tie his own shoes in the morning. Can you imagine him attempting to do his own laundry? oOOOOOF! ~BH

 

[BolshevikHunter]

Nah, newby's a moron, and you're a moron by extension.

Suck rope pal.

Yeah, I joined here in August of 2009 and you joined in Febuary of 2010, but somehow I am the noob? You stupid dumb shit you. Anyone who uses the phrase "noob", is a fucking joke. Which clearly to everyone here, is exaclty what you are. Choke on my pole you weak minded maggot. ~BH

No, grunt is the newby, and you're a dumbass for at least 3 reasons in this last prattling post alone.

Maybe you should just shut the fuck up before you bring weeks of utter misery here on yourself? What do you think bro? ~BH

 

[Iowa10000]

Well we see what we have here, it's a right wing message board as it should be 4 to 1 to raise taxes on the very rich, but 9-1 against on this site, gee I wonder why they know so much about Fox on here, LOL what a joke.

 

[Cuyo]

errr... Hmm.

Well if 'taxing the wealthy' simply means more than they are taxed now... I'd refer you to the last 70 years or so. How did we do during that 'Point in history?'

You turned a question into a question, please answer the question.

This is what happens when you come into contact with a weak minded individual such as this joke Cuyo. The poor fuck can probably hardly tie his own shoes in the morning. Can you imagine him attempting to do his own laundry? oOOOOOF! ~BH

What're you, fucking 5?

 

[BolshevikHunter]

Well we see what we have here, it's a right wing message board as it should be 4 to 1 to raise taxes on the very rich, but 9-1 against on this site, gee I wonder why they know so much about Fox on here, LOL what a joke.

Actually Iowa, What we have had here is mostly a good debate started by you on the issue, with very few insults early on between you, myself and a few others. Only now, the mentally defeated doped up sector of your voters came out like bats because most of us have to work and go to bed instead of just resorting to another bong hit. ~BH

 

[JFK_USA]

Most Americans Say Tax Rich to Balance Budget: Poll | Common Dreams

The fact still stands that those people provide jobs. Get rid of all the Socialist programs and hand outs instead. Reduce the size of this useless Federal Government. They can get a job, create a business and make something of themselves so they can provide more jobs like those successful people did. ~BH

Where are the jobs?

You don't understand that just because the rich get a tax cut, they are automatically going to create jobs. They will save that money.

See whats hilarious (and Republicans know exactly what they are doing) is they cut taxes but not spending, so our debt goes up. And who buys the debt? The same rich people that get the tax cut. Its all apart of their game to steal our money.

Its time to stop, its time to step up for America and say "your lying, cheating and deception are no longer going to be business as usual. Time to pay your fair share."

81% of Americans are saying that, republicans are you for the American people?

 

[BolshevikHunter]

You turned a question into a question, please answer the question.

This is what happens when you come into contact with a weak minded individual such as this joke Cuyo. The poor fuck can probably hardly tie his own shoes in the morning. Can you imagine him attempting to do his own laundry? oOOOOOF! ~BH

What're you, fucking 5?

Got to yuh eh? Yeah I know. I have that effect on people. Hey listen dicklip? You drew first blood, so just move along and shut the fuck up. Maybe tomorrow you and I can be friends. Who knows, maybe we agree on alot, but not on a few things. Why jump off the plank if there is a chance that you need not to? Just saying bro. Pick your battlles son. ~BH

 

[Cuyo]

This is what happens when you come into contact with a weak minded individual such as this joke Cuyo. The poor fuck can probably hardly tie his own shoes in the morning. Can you imagine him attempting to do his own laundry? oOOOOOF! ~BH

What're you, fucking 5?

Got to yuh eh? Yeah I know. I have that effect on people. Hey listen dicklip? You drew first blood, so just move along and shut the fuck up. Maybe tomorrow you and I can be friends. Who knows, maybe we agree on alot, but not on a few things. Why jump off the plank if there is a chance that you need not to? Just saying bro. Pick your battlles son. ~BH

mmmm-hmmmm.

How'dya think ya did?

 

[BolshevikHunter]

Most Americans Say Tax Rich to Balance Budget: Poll | Common Dreams

The fact still stands that those people provide jobs. Get rid of all the Socialist programs and hand outs instead. Reduce the size of this useless Federal Government. They can get a job, create a business and make something of themselves so they can provide more jobs like those successful people did. ~BH

Where are the jobs?

You don't understand that just because the rich get a tax cut, they are automatically going to create jobs. They will save that money.

See whats hilarious (and Republicans know exactly what they are doing) is they cut taxes but not spending, so our debt goes up. And who buys the debt? The same rich people that get the tax cut. Its all apart of their game to steal our money.

Its time to stop, its time to step up for America and say "your lying, cheating and deception are no longer going to be business as usual. Time to pay your fair share."

81% of Americans are saying that, republicans are you for the American people?

JFK, Not sure if it's you from you know where, but no bro. Listen to me for a minute, You can't complain about the taxes, which I will never agree with anyway, until you focus on the wasteful spending and failed policies of various Socialist programs and hand outs. If it's you, you're smarter than that. ~BH

 

[BolshevikHunter]

What're you, fucking 5?

Got to yuh eh? Yeah I know. I have that effect on people. Hey listen dicklip? You drew first blood, so just move along and shut the fuck up. Maybe tomorrow you and I can be friends. Who knows, maybe we agree on alot, but not on a few things. Why jump off the plank if there is a chance that you need not to? Just saying bro. Pick your battlles son. ~BH

mmmm-hmmmm.

How'dya think ya did?

Fucking grand slam yuh buttfuck! ~BH

 

[DiveCon]

Well we see what we have here, it's a right wing message board as it should be 4 to 1 to raise taxes on the very rich, but 9-1 against on this site, gee I wonder why they know so much about Fox on here, LOL what a joke.

this is a "rightwing" messageboard?
REALLY?>?????