6th Circuit used Humpty-Dumpty theory of language to allow Biden's vaccine mandate

[Rigby5]

WTF?
NO, they absolutely DO NOT.
Have you EVER had a job?

That answers my question.
Boy are you in for a surprise.

WRONG, again, when you stated ALL.
The rest is partially true.
Employees, employers, and insurance companies demand a safe workplace.

NOT true.

You are totally wrong.
At my age, I have had hundreds of jobs, and OSHA is ONLY advisory.
Any worker at any time can deliberately violate OSHA recommendations.
The ONLY person who can NOT violate OSHA is the employer.
For example, the employer has to provide safety harnesses for elevated work, but no worker has to ever actually wear the harness if they do not want.
You need to read up more before making statements you do not understand.

Normally the federal government would have zero jurisdiction over workplace safety at all, since it is not authorized jurisdiction in the Constitution.
The only reason there is any jurisdiction to the federal government is through the 14th amendment, which allows the federal government to protect individual rights. But the authority to protect individual rights does not mean the government then can mandate something AGAINST the desires of the individuals. That would be violating individual rights, not protecting them.

 

[Rigby5]

I should have also added that is the idea of a vax mandate is to protect other workers from those who are unvaxed and could spread, then it still has to be done by the legislative and not executive, and would require studies to prove it was necessary, even though it reduced freedoms of some, in order to protect the rights of others. And that has not been done or possible. That is because the mRNA injections available in the US have been proven to not work. They do not cause any immunity memory.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Totally wrong.
A law has protections because it is limited by the constitution, under judicial review, and created by the input of local elected representatives.
An executive mandate is essentially autocratic, needs no reason, requires no justification, has no representative input, does not have to face legal scrutiny, and has ZERO legal authority.
It is the definition of evil.

Legislators can not pass any law they want. It HAS to be based on the defense of inherent individual rights, and not infringe upon them. That is how the SCOTUS can strike down legislation as being illegal if it violates individual rights of even a single person.

"No shoes, no shirt, no services" is NOT a mandate.
You are free to go to some other place if you want.
That is a private requirement you can choose to accept or not, at your own discretion.
That is NOT a mandate.
A mandate is a universal government imposition.

Any government mandate has always been struck down as totally illegal.

No, they haven't.

The go completely against the basis of law in a democratic republic.

No, they don't

You clearly do NOT know what a mandate is.

It's evident you don't.

A curfew is NOT at all a mandate.

YES, it is.

Many people have to violate curfew for example, to go to work during the 1967 Civil Rights riots

NO, they didn't.
People go to work during other curfews too.
They go to doctors' appointments, grocery stores, hospitals, go tp pharmacies and get fuel.

We were not arrested and could not be arrested, because government does not have the authority to enforce a curfew with mandate.

WTF?
YES, they do.

They instead enforced a curfew with a very limited restriction on unnecessary travel during a riot.
Mandates allow for no exception, regardless of need or rights.

Again, WTF?
YES, they do.

The way vaccines work is not totally known to anyone yet. All we know is that the immune system stores information about an invading pathogen in its T-cell memory in bone marrow.

Another, WTF?
"Not totally known"?
"Stores information about invading pathogens in bone marrow"?
WOW.

A vaccine only boost your immune system, it doesn't make you immune to bacteria, virus or toxin, by exposing the body to a small amount of the pathogen, your immune system responds by producing antibodies to fight it.
A vaccine is only as good as your immune system is and the way it reacts to certain vaccines, people 60+ years of age or others with compromised or weakened immune systems, will have a weaker response to a vaccine than a healthy, 18-year-old, in excellent health.

We do not know exactly what the immune system uses to store.

Could it be..................Antibodies?

But we do know that the mRNA injections only force our own cells to start producing spike proteins, and that spike proteins can not be used by the immune system to store anything.

The human body doesn't produce spike proteins.

That is because our own exosome have to use the exact same spike proteins, for the same reason, to unlock and open ACE2 receptor sites on our cells.

See above.

So anyone claiming mRNA injections cause immunity is either ignorant or lying.

WOW, you got one thing right, very good.

 

[Smokin' OP]

You are totally wrong.
At my age, I have had hundreds of jobs, and OSHA is ONLY advisory.

WTF?
Where did you have these "jobs?
Behind a desk?

Even then, employers make employees aware of are evacuation routes to exit the building, fire extinguisher locations, exit signs, and stairway locations.
OSHA requires that these items and egresses be in place before the building can open for business, some, during construction of the building.
ALL are OSHA laws and regulations.

Any worker at any time can deliberately violate OSHA recommendations.

Yes, they can.
You can deliberately break as many laws as you want too.

The ONLY person who can NOT violate OSHA is the employer.

Yep, just as I thought, desk jockey.

For example, the employer has to provide safety harnesses for elevated work, but no worker has to ever actually wear the harness if they do not want.

See above, you're FOS.

You need to read up more before making statements you do not understand.

WOW.

Normally the federal government would have zero jurisdiction over workplace safety at all, since it is not authorized jurisdiction in the Constitution.

Then, Nixon violated the constitution?
Some states have their own jurisdiction that meets or exceeds OSHA.

The only reason there is any jurisdiction to the federal government is through the 14th amendment, which allows the federal government to protect individual rights. But the authority to protect individual rights does not mean the government then can mandate something AGAINST the desires of the individuals. That would be violating individual rights, not protecting them.

Where do you get all this crap from?
Alex Jones or Trump?

 

[Smokin' OP]

I should have also added that is the idea of a vax mandate is to protect other workers from those who are unvaxed and could spread, then it still has to be done by the legislative and not executive, and would require studies to prove it was necessary, even though it reduced freedoms of some, in order to protect the rights of others. And that has not been done or possible. That is because the mRNA injections available in the US have been proven to not work. They do not cause any immunity memory.

No, shit.
No vaccine guarantees immunity from any virus or disease.
AND an employer can set any safety mandate they want.

 

[Rigby5]

No, they haven't.

No, they don't

It's evident you don't.

YES, it is.

NO, they didn't.
People go to work during other curfews too.
They go to doctors' appointments, grocery stores, hospitals, go tp pharmacies and get fuel.

WTF?
YES, they do.

Again, WTF?
YES, they do.

Another, WTF?
"Not totally known"?
"Stores information about invading pathogens in bone marrow"?
WOW.

A vaccine only boost your immune system, it doesn't make you immune to bacteria, virus or toxin, by exposing the body to a small amount of the pathogen, your immune system responds by producing antibodies to fight it.
A vaccine is only as good as your immune system is and the way it reacts to certain vaccines, people 60+ years of age or others with compromised or weakened immune systems, will have a weaker response to a vaccine than a healthy, 18-year-old, in excellent health.

Could it be..................Antibodies?

The human body doesn't produce spike proteins.

See above.

WOW, you got one thing right, very good.

Totally wrong about curfews.
They are not legal unless authorized by legislation, and they are prosecuted by the courts where you have the ability to defend your actions.
They are NOT at all executive "mandates" in ANY way.
For example, during the 1967 Civil Rights riots, there were national, state, and local curfews, none of which were mandates and none of which prevented travel outdoors if you have any sort of reason.
There has never before been an executive mandate, and executive mandates would only be legal if martial law was first declared.

And you clearly do NOT at all understand how the immune system works.
The whole point of vaccines to create immunity is NOT to create antibodies.
The immune system has dozens of different ways of attacking pathogens that have invaded.
If it does not recognize the pathogen, it has to try them all, one at a time.
And the problem with that is that some of them, like a high fever, can be fatal to the patient.
The whole point of immunity is that by letting the immune system become familiar with a pathogen, it will store in its T-cell memory, what works.
That way next time is does not have to do trial and error.
It knows exactly what worked last time.
We do not know exactly how immune information is stored, but it is believed T-cells in your bone marrow append immunity information to their DNA, so that it is saved when a cell replicates and dies.

Producing more antibodies is NOT how vaccine immunity has ever worked.
Vaccine immunity always contains actual virus corpses so the immune system can identify and trigger on something real.
The proper immune response is decided upon by the immune system, and it does not just always produce antibodies.
That is only 1 of dozens of possible strategies.

And REAL vaccine immunity does work. It does cause the immune system to essentially permanently ward off the invading virus, bacteria, or other pathogen.
Vaccine immunity to polio, smallpox, rubella, typhus, dysentery, measles, mumps, chickenpox, etc., are essentially life time.
The do not fade or are temporary.
They are permanent.
About the only ones that need boosters legitimately are tetanus after a decade, and pertussis, which is about 5 years.
About the only thing they can't make a vaccine for is rabies.

And by the way, the human body most certainly DOES produce spike proteins.
Look up "exosomes".
They are messengers human cells make and eject, so they can carry information to other cells.
And those other cells let them into their ACE2 receptor sites, when they put their spike protein into the ACE2 depression.
In other words, spike proteins are the key to normal human cell access.
And coronaviruses are just mimicking exosome.
How is that possible?
The theory is that coronaviruses WERE originally exosome that went rogue. They got out of control, like a cell going cancerous.

If you are going to learn anything at all, you must learn that vaccines are not at all to "boost" the immune system.
What makes covid deadly is that the immune system OVER REACTS.
It is the immune system over reaction that kills covid victims.
The real goal of a covid vaccine should then be to REDUCE the immune response, stop the "cytokine storm", and prevent the immune system from murdering the patient through suffocation in excess phlegm from the lymphatic system.

 

[Rigby5]

WTF?
Where did you have these "jobs?
Behind a desk?

Even then, employers make employees aware of are evacuation routes to exit the building, fire extinguisher locations, exit signs, and stairway locations.
OSHA requires that these items and egresses be in place before the building can open for business, some, during construction of the building.
ALL are OSHA laws and regulations.

Yes, they can.
You can deliberately break as many laws as you want too.

Yep, just as I thought, desk jockey.

See above, you're FOS.

WOW.

Then, Nixon violated the constitution?
Some states have their own jurisdiction that meets or exceeds OSHA.

Where do you get all this crap from?
Alex Jones or Trump?

You make no sense at all.
I have been an auto mechanic, dock worker, factory worker, mason, carpenter doing construction, electrician, plumber, painter, computer programmer, physicist, etc.
While some of these are desk related, nothing I wrote at all indicated I was a "desk jockey", nor would that be relevant.

And yes, Nixon definitely violated the constitution over OSHA.
Prohibition did not only because they passed it as an amendment to the constitution.
But the War on Drugs, all federal gun laws, etc., are all totally and completely illegal.
And in fact, the FDA is totally illegal except as an advisory.
The feds have ZERO legal jurisdiction over medical matters.

As far as how you can learn this stuff as well, just read.
Read the constitution, history books, etc.
Law is not arbitrary at all, but is based on a simple premise, the right of an individual to defend their inherent rights.
Then all legal authority comes from delegated agents, like police and judges, to help those individuals in the defense of their inherent rights.
When ever you find a law that is NOT based on the defense of those inherent individual rights, you can easily tell the law is illegal.
Like the War on Drugs.
No matter how bad of an idea drugs may be, they do not harm anyone else, so then government has zero authority to legislate them in any way.
Government can never be given the authority to legislate against stupid individual choices.
All individuals have the inherent right to make their own stupid choices if they want.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Totally wrong about curfews.
They are not legal unless authorized by legislation, and they are prosecuted by the courts where you have the ability to defend your actions.
They are NOT at all executive "mandates" in ANY way.

Really?

May 30 2020
Philadelphia Mayor Jim Kenney has instituted a mandatory curfew effective at 8 p.m. ET Saturday night through 6 a.m. ET Sunday morning, the Philadelphia Police Department tweeted.

“Only persons with essential duties will be permitted outdoors,” the police department said.

December 13 2021
A curfew has been ordered by both Mayor Kathy O'Nan and Judge Executive Jesse Perry in all areas within the city limits of Mayfield, and all areas in the county that has been affected by the tornadoes track.

The curfew remains until lifted and is in effect from dusk to dawn. Property owners or those that have legitimate reasons to be in these areas are authorized by this order.

All others WILL BE ARRESTED. NO EXCEPTIONS.

March 19 2020
COVINGTON, Ky. - Covington Mayor Joe Meyer declared a formal State of Emergency in the city of Covington this morning, a legal maneuver that speeds the City’s ability to take actions to protect the public and mitigate the impact of the spreading coronavirus pandemic.

“Extraordinary times call for extraordinary steps,” the Mayor said. “This is not a normal disaster situation. This declaration will enable us to act more quickly and with flexibility and authority to serious needs and concerns related to the spreading COVID-19 crisis.”

For example, during the 1967 Civil Rights riots, there were national, state, and local curfews, none of which were mandates and none of which prevented travel outdoors if you have any sort of reason.
There has never before been an executive mandate, and executive mandates would only be legal if martial law was first declared.

And you clearly do NOT at all understand how the immune system works.
The whole point of vaccines to create immunity is NOT to create antibodies.
The immune system has dozens of different ways of attacking pathogens that have invaded.
If it does not recognize the pathogen, it has to try them all, one at a time.
And the problem with that is that some of them, like a high fever, can be fatal to the patient.
The whole point of immunity is that by letting the immune system become familiar with a pathogen, it will store in its T-cell memory, what works.
That way next time is does not have to do trial and error.
It knows exactly what worked last time.
We do not know exactly how immune information is stored, but it is believed T-cells in your bone marrow append immunity information to their DNA, so that it is saved when a cell replicates and dies.

Producing more antibodies is NOT how vaccine immunity has ever worked.
Vaccine immunity always contains actual virus corpses so the immune system can identify and trigger on something real.
The proper immune response is decided upon by the immune system, and it does not just always produce antibodies.
That is only 1 of dozens of possible strategies.

And REAL vaccine immunity does work. It does cause the immune system to essentially permanently ward off the invading virus, bacteria, or other pathogen.
Vaccine immunity to polio, smallpox, rubella, typhus, dysentery, measles, mumps, chickenpox, etc., are essentially life time.
The do not fade or are temporary.
They are permanent.
About the only ones that need boosters legitimately are tetanus after a decade, and pertussis, which is about 5 years.
About the only thing they can't make a vaccine for is rabies.

And by the way, the human body most certainly DOES produce spike proteins.
Look up "exosomes".
They are messengers human cells make and eject, so they can carry information to other cells.
And those other cells let them into their ACE2 receptor sites, when they put their spike protein into the ACE2 depression.
In other words, spike proteins are the key to normal human cell access.
And coronaviruses are just mimicking exosome.
How is that possible?
The theory is that coronaviruses WERE originally exosome that went rogue. They got out of control, like a cell going cancerous.

If you are going to learn anything at all, you must learn that vaccines are not at all to "boost" the immune system.
What makes covid deadly is that the immune system OVER REACTS.
It is the immune system over reaction that kills covid victims.
The real goal of a covid vaccine should then be to REDUCE the immune response, stop the "cytokine storm", and prevent the immune system from murdering the patient through suffocation in excess phlegm from the lymphatic system.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Totally wrong about curfews.
They are not legal unless authorized by legislation, and they are prosecuted by the courts where you have the ability to defend your actions.
They are NOT at all executive "mandates" in ANY way.
For example, during the 1967 Civil Rights riots, there were national, state, and local curfews, none of which were mandates and none of which prevented travel outdoors if you have any sort of reason.
There has never before been an executive mandate, and executive mandates would only be legal if martial law was first declared.

And you clearly do NOT at all understand how the immune system works.
The whole point of vaccines to create immunity is NOT to create antibodies.

WTF?
You have no idea how vaccines work.
How does a vaccine create immunity?
People get the flu shot every year and some still get the flu, aren't they supposed to be "immune"?

The immune system has dozens of different ways of attacking pathogens that have invaded.
If it does not recognize the pathogen, it has to try them all, one at a time.
And the problem with that is that some of them, like a high fever, can be fatal to the patient.
The whole point of immunity is that by letting the immune system become familiar with a pathogen, it will store in its T-cell memory, what works.
That way next time is does not have to do trial and error.
It knows exactly what worked last time.
We do not know exactly how immune information is stored, but it is believed T-cells in your bone marrow append immunity information to their DNA, so that it is saved when a cell replicates and dies.

Producing more antibodies is NOT how vaccine immunity has ever worked.

That's because a vaccine doesn't guarantee immunity and yes, that's exactly how vaccines work.

Vaccines reduce risks of getting a disease by working with your body’s natural defenses to build protection. When you get a vaccine, your immune system responds. It:

• Recognizes the invading germ, such as the virus or bacteria.
• Produces antibodies. Antibodies are proteins produced naturally by the immune system to fight disease.
• Remembers the disease and how to fight it. If you are then exposed to the germ in the future, your immune system can quickly destroy it before you become unwell.

The vaccine is therefore a safe and clever way to produce an immune response in the body, without causing illness.

Vaccine immunity always contains actual virus corpses so the immune system can identify and trigger on something real.
The proper immune response is decided upon by the immune system, and it does not just always produce antibodies.
That is only 1 of dozens of possible strategies.

And REAL vaccine immunity does work. It does cause the immune system to essentially permanently ward off the invading virus, bacteria, or other pathogen.
Vaccine immunity to polio, smallpox, rubella, typhus, dysentery, measles, mumps, chickenpox, etc., are essentially life time.
The do not fade or are temporary.
They are permanent.
About the only ones that need boosters legitimately are tetanus after a decade, and pertussis, which is about 5 years.
About the only thing they can't make a vaccine for is rabies.

And by the way, the human body most certainly DOES produce spike proteins.
Look up "exosomes".
They are messengers human cells make and eject, so they can carry information to other cells.
And those other cells let them into their ACE2 receptor sites, when they put their spike protein into the ACE2 depression.
In other words, spike proteins are the key to normal human cell access.
And coronaviruses are just mimicking exosome.
How is that possible?
The theory is that coronaviruses WERE originally exosome that went rogue. They got out of control, like a cell going cancerous.

If you are going to learn anything at all, you must learn that vaccines are not at all to "boost" the immune system.
What makes covid deadly is that the immune system OVER REACTS.
It is the immune system over reaction that kills covid victims.
The real goal of a covid vaccine should then be to REDUCE the immune response, stop the "cytokine storm", and prevent the immune system from murdering the patient through suffocation in excess phlegm from the lymphatic system.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Totally wrong about curfews.
They are not legal unless authorized by legislation, and they are prosecuted by the courts where you have the ability to defend your actions.
They are NOT at all executive "mandates" in ANY way.
For example, during the 1967 Civil Rights riots, there were national, state, and local curfews, none of which were mandates and none of which prevented travel outdoors if you have any sort of reason.
There has never before been an executive mandate, and executive mandates would only be legal if martial law was first declared.

And you clearly do NOT at all understand how the immune system works.
The whole point of vaccines to create immunity is NOT to create antibodies.
The immune system has dozens of different ways of attacking pathogens that have invaded.
If it does not recognize the pathogen, it has to try them all, one at a time.

"Dozens of different ways"?
No, only one, white blood cells.

White blood cells, also called leukocytes or leucocytes, are the cells of the immune system that are involved in protecting the body against both infectious disease and foreign invaders. All white blood cells are produced and derived from multipotent cells in the bone marrow known as hematopoietic stem cells. Leukocytes are found throughout the body, including the blood and lymphatic system.

All white blood cells have nuclei, which distinguishes them from the other blood cells, the anucleated red blood cells (RBCs) and platelets. The different white blood cells are usually classified by cell lineage (myeloid cells or lymphoid cells).

An elevated white blood count means your body is fighting an infection.

And the problem with that is that some of them, like a high fever, can be fatal to the patient.
The whole point of immunity is that by letting the immune system become familiar with a pathogen, it will store in its T-cell memory, what works.
That way next time is does not have to do trial and error.
It knows exactly what worked last time.
We do not know exactly how immune information is stored, but it is believed T-cells in your bone marrow append immunity information to their DNA, so that it is saved when a cell replicates and dies.

Producing more antibodies is NOT how vaccine immunity has ever worked.
Vaccine immunity always contains actual virus corpses so the immune system can identify and trigger on something real.
The proper immune response is decided upon by the immune system, and it does not just always produce antibodies.
That is only 1 of dozens of possible strategies.

And REAL vaccine immunity does work. It does cause the immune system to essentially permanently ward off the invading virus, bacteria, or other pathogen.
Vaccine immunity to polio, smallpox, rubella, typhus, dysentery, measles, mumps, chickenpox, etc., are essentially life time.
The do not fade or are temporary.
They are permanent.
About the only ones that need boosters legitimately are tetanus after a decade, and pertussis, which is about 5 years.
About the only thing they can't make a vaccine for is rabies.

And by the way, the human body most certainly DOES produce spike proteins.
Look up "exosomes".
They are messengers human cells make and eject, so they can carry information to other cells.
And those other cells let them into their ACE2 receptor sites, when they put their spike protein into the ACE2 depression.
In other words, spike proteins are the key to normal human cell access.
And coronaviruses are just mimicking exosome.
How is that possible?
The theory is that coronaviruses WERE originally exosome that went rogue. They got out of control, like a cell going cancerous.

If you are going to learn anything at all, you must learn that vaccines are not at all to "boost" the immune system.
What makes covid deadly is that the immune system OVER REACTS.
It is the immune system over reaction that kills covid victims.
The real goal of a covid vaccine should then be to REDUCE the immune response, stop the "cytokine storm", and prevent the immune system from murdering the patient through suffocation in excess phlegm from the lymphatic system.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Totally wrong about curfews.
They are not legal unless authorized by legislation, and they are prosecuted by the courts where you have the ability to defend your actions.
They are NOT at all executive "mandates" in ANY way.
For example, during the 1967 Civil Rights riots, there were national, state, and local curfews, none of which were mandates and none of which prevented travel outdoors if you have any sort of reason.
There has never before been an executive mandate, and executive mandates would only be legal if martial law was first declared.

And you clearly do NOT at all understand how the immune system works.
The whole point of vaccines to create immunity is NOT to create antibodies.
The immune system has dozens of different ways of attacking pathogens that have invaded.
If it does not recognize the pathogen, it has to try them all, one at a time.
And the problem with that is that some of them, like a high fever, can be fatal to the patient.
The whole point of immunity is that by letting the immune system become familiar with a pathogen, it will store in its T-cell memory, what works.
That way next time is does not have to do trial and error.
It knows exactly what worked last time.
We do not know exactly how immune information is stored, but it is believed T-cells in your bone marrow append immunity information to their DNA, so that it is saved when a cell replicates and dies.

Producing more antibodies is NOT how vaccine immunity has ever worked.
Vaccine immunity always contains actual virus corpses so the immune system can identify and trigger on something real.
The proper immune response is decided upon by the immune system, and it does not just always produce antibodies.
That is only 1 of dozens of possible strategies.

And REAL vaccine immunity does work. It does cause the immune system to essentially permanently ward off the invading virus, bacteria, or other pathogen.
Vaccine immunity to polio, smallpox, rubella, typhus, dysentery, measles, mumps, chickenpox, etc., are essentially life time.
The do not fade or are temporary.
They are permanent.

Yes, they are, you know why?

Vaccines prevent infection by introducing a tiny amount of killed or weakened bacteria or virus (or sometimes lab-grown protein) into your baby's immune system. When your baby receives an immunization, they get injected with that disease in a weakened form. This triggers your baby's immune response, either producing antibodies against that specific disease or kicking off other processes to enhance immunity. Then if your baby is exposed to the disease in the future, their immune system is ready to fight it.

Vaccines for 9-month-old babies are important because they protect against a wide variety of serious illnesses. They also prevent these diseases from spreading to other children. Vaccines help prevent illnesses and also decrease their severity. Moreover, preventing a disease is much easier and more cost-effective than treating it. Thanks to vaccines, diseases such as mumps, whooping cough, and measles are much less common than they used to be. Furthermore, because of vaccines, other diseases such as smallpox and polio have been nearly eradicated.

Children in the United States receive the inactivated poliovirus vaccine (IPV). The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) state that the polio vaccine should be given to babies at these ages:

• 2 months
• 4 months
• 6 to 18 months
• 4 to 6 years

Damned, that's a lot of boosters.

About the only ones that need boosters legitimately are tetanus after a decade, and pertussis, which is about 5 years.
About the only thing they can't make a vaccine for is rabies.

No, if you go to the hospital with a cut they don't even ask if you had a tetanus shot anymore, they just give it to you.

And by the way, the human body most certainly DOES produce spike proteins.
Look up "exosomes".
They are messengers human cells make and eject, so they can carry information to other cells.
And those other cells let them into their ACE2 receptor sites, when they put their spike protein into the ACE2 depression.
In other words, spike proteins are the key to normal human cell access.
And coronaviruses are just mimicking exosome.
How is that possible?
The theory is that coronaviruses WERE originally exosome that went rogue. They got out of control, like a cell going cancerous.

If you are going to learn anything at all, you must learn that vaccines are not at all to "boost" the immune system.
What makes covid deadly is that the immune system OVER REACTS.
It is the immune system over reaction that kills covid victims.
The real goal of a covid vaccine should then be to REDUCE the immune response, stop the "cytokine storm", and prevent the immune system from murdering the patient through suffocation in excess phlegm from the lymphatic system.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Totally wrong about curfews.
They are not legal unless authorized by legislation, and they are prosecuted by the courts where you have the ability to defend your actions.
They are NOT at all executive "mandates" in ANY way.
For example, during the 1967 Civil Rights riots, there were national, state, and local curfews, none of which were mandates and none of which prevented travel outdoors if you have any sort of reason.
There has never before been an executive mandate, and executive mandates would only be legal if martial law was first declared.

And you clearly do NOT at all understand how the immune system works.
The whole point of vaccines to create immunity is NOT to create antibodies.
The immune system has dozens of different ways of attacking pathogens that have invaded.
If it does not recognize the pathogen, it has to try them all, one at a time.
And the problem with that is that some of them, like a high fever, can be fatal to the patient.
The whole point of immunity is that by letting the immune system become familiar with a pathogen, it will store in its T-cell memory, what works.
That way next time is does not have to do trial and error.
It knows exactly what worked last time.
We do not know exactly how immune information is stored, but it is believed T-cells in your bone marrow append immunity information to their DNA, so that it is saved when a cell replicates and dies.

Producing more antibodies is NOT how vaccine immunity has ever worked.
Vaccine immunity always contains actual virus corpses so the immune system can identify and trigger on something real.
The proper immune response is decided upon by the immune system, and it does not just always produce antibodies.
That is only 1 of dozens of possible strategies.

And REAL vaccine immunity does work. It does cause the immune system to essentially permanently ward off the invading virus, bacteria, or other pathogen.
Vaccine immunity to polio, smallpox, rubella, typhus, dysentery, measles, mumps, chickenpox, etc., are essentially life time.
The do not fade or are temporary.
They are permanent.
About the only ones that need boosters legitimately are tetanus after a decade, and pertussis, which is about 5 years.
About the only thing they can't make a vaccine for is rabies.

And by the way, the human body most certainly DOES produce spike proteins.

The body produces proteins, not spike proteins.

Look up "exosomes".

They are contained within cells.

Exosomes are small, single-membrane, secreted organelles of ∼30 to ∼200 nm in diameter that have the same topology as the cell and are enriched in selected proteins, lipids, nucleic acids, and glycoconjugates.
Exosomes contain an array of membrane-associated, high-order oligomeric protein complexes, display pronounced molecular heterogeneity, and are created by budding at both plasma and endosome membranes.
Exosome biogenesis is a mechanism of protein quality control, and once released, exosomes have activities as diverse as remodeling the extracellular matrix and transmitting signals and molecules to other cells.
This pathway of intercellular vesicle traffic plays important roles in many aspects of human health and disease, including development, immunity, tissue homeostasis, cancer, and neurodegenerative diseases.
In addition, viruses co-opt exosome biogenesis pathways both for assembling infectious particles and for establishing host permissiveness. On the basis of these and other properties, exosomes are being developed as therapeutic agents in multiple disease

They are messengers human cells make and eject, so they can carry information to other cells.
And those other cells let them into their ACE2 receptor sites, when they put their spike protein into the ACE2 depression.
In other words, spike proteins are the key to normal human cell access.
And coronaviruses are just mimicking exosome.
How is that possible?
The theory is that coronaviruses WERE originally exosome that went rogue. They got out of control, like a cell going cancerous.

If you are going to learn anything at all, you must learn that vaccines are not at all to "boost" the immune system.
What makes covid deadly is that the immune system OVER REACTS.
It is the immune system over reaction that kills covid victims.
The real goal of a covid vaccine should then be to REDUCE the immune response, stop the "cytokine storm", and prevent the immune system from murdering the patient through suffocation in excess phlegm from the lymphatic system.

 

[Smokin' OP]

You make no sense at all.
I have been an auto mechanic, dock worker, factory worker, mason, carpenter doing construction, electrician, plumber, painter, computer programmer, physicist, etc.
While some of these are desk related, nothing I wrote at all indicated I was a "desk jockey", nor would that be relevant.

Well, you damned sure don't know a thing about OSHA, that's for sure.

And yes, Nixon definitely violated the constitution over OSHA.

Sure, that's they are still in court over it, 45 years later.

Prohibition did not only because they passed it as an amendment to the constitution.

BUT, it wasn't IN the constitution.

But the War on Drugs, all federal gun laws, etc., are all totally and completely illegal.

Sure they are, more lawyers are working on that too.

And in fact, the FDA is totally illegal except as an advisory.

As required by law, the Food and Drug Administration publishes regulations in the Federal Register, the federal government's official publication for notifying the public of many kinds of agency actions.
Federal regulations are either required or authorized by statute. Some, such as FDA’s egg safety regulations, address a specific problem or known health hazard, while others, like citizen petition regulations, are administrative or procedural.
The rulemaking procedures that we follow come from U.S. law, Executive Orders (EO’s) and memoranda issued by the President, and FDA’s own regulations.

The feds have ZERO legal jurisdiction over medical matters.

As far as how you can learn this stuff as well, just read.
Read the constitution, history books, etc.
Law is not arbitrary at all, but is based on a simple premise, the right of an individual to defend their inherent rights.
Then all legal authority comes from delegated agents, like police and judges, to help those individuals in the defense of their inherent rights.

What if your rights violate someone else's rights?

When ever you find a law that is NOT based on the defense of those inherent individual rights, you can easily tell the law is illegal.
Like the War on Drugs.
No matter how bad of an idea drugs may be, they do not harm anyone else, so then government has zero authority to legislate them in any way.
Government can never be given the authority to legislate against stupid individual choices.
All individuals have the inherent right to make their own stupid choices if they want.

Absurd.

 

[Rigby5]

Really?

May 30 2020
Philadelphia Mayor Jim Kenney has instituted a mandatory curfew effective at 8 p.m. ET Saturday night through 6 a.m. ET Sunday morning, the Philadelphia Police Department tweeted.

“Only persons with essential duties will be permitted outdoors,” the police department said.

December 13 2021
A curfew has been ordered by both Mayor Kathy O'Nan and Judge Executive Jesse Perry in all areas within the city limits of Mayfield, and all areas in the county that has been affected by the tornadoes track.

The curfew remains until lifted and is in effect from dusk to dawn. Property owners or those that have legitimate reasons to be in these areas are authorized by this order.

All others WILL BE ARRESTED. NO EXCEPTIONS.

March 19 2020
COVINGTON, Ky. - Covington Mayor Joe Meyer declared a formal State of Emergency in the city of Covington this morning, a legal maneuver that speeds the City’s ability to take actions to protect the public and mitigate the impact of the spreading coronavirus pandemic.

“Extraordinary times call for extraordinary steps,” the Mayor said. “This is not a normal disaster situation. This declaration will enable us to act more quickly and with flexibility and authority to serious needs and concerns related to the spreading COVID-19 crisis.”

Wrong.

When they say:
{... “Only persons with essential duties will be permitted outdoors,” the police department said. ...}
That is NOT a mandatory curfew.
If you have a good reason, you are not restricted.
A mandatory curfew means it is arbitrary and has NO exceptions.
When you allow exceptions, it is NOT mandatory.

{...
mandatory
[ˈmandəˌtôrē]

ADJECTIVE

1. required by law or rules; compulsory.
   "wearing helmets was made mandatory for cyclists"
   synonyms:
   obligatory · compulsory · binding · required · inescapable · unavoidable · requisite · necessary · essential · imperative
   ...}
   

 

[Rigby5]

"Dozens of different ways"?
No, only one, white blood cells.

White blood cells, also called leukocytes or leucocytes, are the cells of the immune system that are involved in protecting the body against both infectious disease and foreign invaders. All white blood cells are produced and derived from multipotent cells in the bone marrow known as hematopoietic stem cells. Leukocytes are found throughout the body, including the blood and lymphatic system.

All white blood cells have nuclei, which distinguishes them from the other blood cells, the anucleated red blood cells (RBCs) and platelets. The different white blood cells are usually classified by cell lineage (myeloid cells or lymphoid cells).

An elevated white blood count means your body is fighting an infection.

Wrong.
The immune system uses many different methods, such as phages, cytokines, white blood cells, antibodies, etc.

 

[Rigby5]

Children in the United States receive the inactivated poliovirus vaccine (IPV). The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) state that the polio vaccine should be given to babies at these ages:

• 2 months
• 4 months
• 6 to 18 months
• 4 to 6 years

Damned, that's a lot of boosters.

Wrong.
None of those are boosters.
Those are attempts to reduce harmful side effects by spacing out the vaccination into smaller stages.
There is no loss of immunity.
You can tell because there is no futher injections after 6 years old.
If immunity waned, then you would need another every decade or so.

The mRNA injection just are totally fake because there is no immunity at all.
Nothing is left after 6 months.

 

[Rigby5]

...

No, if you go to the hospital with a cut they don't even ask if you had a tetanus shot anymore, they just give it to you.

No they don't.
Tetanus can have side effects, so always requires permission.

{...
Redness and pain at the site of injection occur in between 25% and 85% of people.[2] Fever, feeling tired, and minor muscle pain occurs in less than 10% of people.[2] Severe allergic reactions occur in less than one in 100,000 people.[2]
...}

 

[Rigby5]

The body produces proteins, not spike proteins.

They are contained within cells.

Exosomes are small, single-membrane, secreted organelles of ∼30 to ∼200 nm in diameter that have the same topology as the cell and are enriched in selected proteins, lipids, nucleic acids, and glycoconjugates.
Exosomes contain an array of membrane-associated, high-order oligomeric protein complexes, display pronounced molecular heterogeneity, and are created by budding at both plasma and endosome membranes.
Exosome biogenesis is a mechanism of protein quality control, and once released, exosomes have activities as diverse as remodeling the extracellular matrix and transmitting signals and molecules to other cells.
This pathway of intercellular vesicle traffic plays important roles in many aspects of human health and disease, including development, immunity, tissue homeostasis, cancer, and neurodegenerative diseases.
In addition, viruses co-opt exosome biogenesis pathways both for assembling infectious particles and for establishing host permissiveness. On the basis of these and other properties, exosomes are being developed as therapeutic agents in multiple disease

Wrong.

Exosomes are produced inside a cell, but leave and enter other cells.
That is what the "exo" part of their name means.

And the spike proteins of coronaviruses are IDENTICAL to that of exosomes.
The only difference is that exosomes only have 1 instead of many.
Neither the spike proteins of exosomes nor coronaviruses are actually spikes in shape.
They by both have rounded heads, so that they can make good contact into the same ACE2 receptors.

Here is an article explaining the similarities of coronaviruses to exosomes.

What Do Exosomes and Viruses Like HIV & Corona Have In Common?

Dr. James Hildreth PhD MD, proposed that “the virus is fully an exosome in every sense of the word.” [1] What Are Exosomes? Exosomes are membrane bound extracellular vesicles (EVs) that are produce…

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WHAT DO EXOSOMES AND VIRUSES LIKE HIV & CORONA HAVE IN COMMON?​

...
Exosomes are natural micro-vesicles produced by cells; they carry messages from cell to cell, and to other tissues, and possibly to other people. They are essential to health because they carry acidic waste out of damaged cells and trigger the lymphocytes to release reduced oxygen (SO-) and reduced hydrogen (OH-) molecules to buffer metabolic acidic cellular waste to prevent the death of the body.
...

Are COVID-19 and HIV Exosomes?​

Based upon electron microscopy the so-called COVID-19 virus and the the so-called HIV virus are 100 nm in diameter and appear identical to exosomes.
...

What Is the Relationship Between Exosomes and COVID-19​

They both contain the ACE2, or angiotensin converting enzyme-2 receptor and visually, using an electron microscope measure the same size. The exosomes or should we say the COVID-19, ACE2 receptor chops up two forms of a protein called angiotensin to keep blood pressure stable by protecting cell membranes from cellular breakdown from metabolic, dietary, environmental and respiratory acidic waste.[9]
...}

 

[Rigby5]

BUT, it wasn't IN the constitution.

YES, amendments ARE in the Constitution.
The fact Prohibition was in the Constitution still did not make it rights, successful, logical, or legal however.
Prohibition is proof gov simply gets things wrong and sometimes does illegal things.

 

[Rigby5]

As required by law, the Food and Drug Administration publishes regulations in the Federal Register, the federal government's official publication for notifying the public of many kinds of agency actions.
Federal regulations are either required or authorized by statute. Some, such as FDA’s egg safety regulations, address a specific problem or known health hazard, while others, like citizen petition regulations, are administrative or procedural.
The rulemaking procedures that we follow come from U.S. law, Executive Orders (EO’s) and memoranda issued by the President, and FDA’s own regulations.

The FDA is totally and entirely illegal as a legal regulatory body because the federal government was given ZERO medical jurtisdiction.
And the 9th and 10th amendment prohibit any federal authority without explicit constitutional jurisdiction.